The E-Cigarette at work, hazardous.

[hammychang]

So i got my njoy last month and I tried it out at the office the next day. While no one noticed an odor, and the vapor was fairly unnoticeable, my co-workers around me started getting sick. I'm assuming I wasn't inhaling the full nicotine content in each puff, and I was spreading the excess nicotine around the air.

You know when you had your first cigarette? And you felt dizzy, woozy, and if you went for 2, you pretty much threw up? That's what my co-workers went through, I felt pretty bad for them, having never smoked before but being exposed to nicotine in a roundabout way.

So, advice to the rest of you, avoid using your e-cigarette in enclosed areas!!

 

[Nazareth]

I doubt very seriously they were exposed to enough nicotine to cause them that much discomfort- Especially if you say the vapor was fairly unnoticeable- the only way they could have had reactiosn was for you to sit there bellowing uninhaled vapor at them for quite soem time it was probably more a psychological reaction rather than physical- and another note- it's not just the nicotine that we were gettign sick from when we tried regular ciggs for hte first time, it was all the harsh toxic chemicals- some 4000 or so which these E-Ciggs do not have- They may just be hypersensitive people who are in the minority of peopel who are infact allergic to PG, not the nicotine, or they may have been coming down with something, and conveniently blamed it on the E-smoking too.

 

[leaford]

Yeah. they've done tests and something over 90% of the nicotine is absorbed before you exhale. What you get in the vapor is just PG and water.

 

[E-Cigarette-usa]

Funny. never had no complain so far. the only thing was that my surrounding got there cigarette out thinking its allowed to smoke in that place, then i was ask not to smoke my E-Cigarette because i was confusing people. but nothing more then that.
Good luck.

 

[Klaue]

Yeah. they've done tests and something over 90% of the nicotine is absorbed before you exhale. What you get in the vapor is just PG and water.

98-99% to be exact. but to be fair, the test used real cigarettes, not e-cigs. It's in the savety test for the ruyan e-cig, but the footnote links to another article as the source and this other article was for real cigs

 

[TheEmperorOfIceCream]

Hammychang, your bullsh*t detector is broken. I've knocked out full-grown adults by waving a cigarette at them.

Probably woulda killed 'em if I lit it...

 

[TropicalBob]

Klaue, note that the VAPOR itself has yet to be tested. Only the liquid has been found safe in New Zealand tests.

I'm mixed on this, since I've had more than one person tell me they "smell" the e-vapor I exhale. It smells like "sweet potatoes" (my wife), "fruit" or "vanilla" (my granddaughters and I WAS smoking a vanilla-extract heavy liquid. The vanilla comment came from children in the back seat of a car I was driving! They were several feet away in a car with air conditioning running.

We do exhaust something. Can people be sensitive to that something? Some might be. And doesn't that spell even more trouble as these things become more widespread in use? Just how many people need to complain "it made me so sick ..."?

 

[dnakr]

I've never had anyone get sick around me but my daughter says she loves the smell of the flue-cured, coffee and menthol mix. She can always tell when I'm smoking that one.

 

[TropicalBob]

I'm getting concerned again .. What's left in the vapor we exhale that might bother some people? We need lab test results. Quickly. The liquid is slick to touch and does leave a film on computer monitors. If people can smell it, there are particles still in it. Oh my. Remember that it was second-hand smoke that really got the public riled against cigarette smoking. We could kill ourselves and they didn't care. But if we so much as irritated one of them .. ban all smoking!

 

[sanneke]

Oh Bob, please do not worry so much.

My husband does not smoke, he stopped after a hart attack he had 5 years ago.
When I first started e-smoking I puffed some in his face and asked him:"do you smell anything"?
I asked my kids the same thing, they smell nothing.

Also the vapor does not hang around like smoke from a cigarette.
It just disappears.

I doubt very much that many people, if any, get sick around an e-smoker get sick.
What where the symptoms?

 

[TropicalBob]

Not so much worried, as concerned that various health zealots will now use exhaled vapor particulates as yet another reason to ban these. Hammychang's post was pretty explicit that his co-workers were sickened. Psychological? Sure could be. I hope so.

And you're right that vapor doesn't hang around. But particulates do. They cling to computer screens over time and are what allow anyone to "smell" anything in the vicinity of an e-smoker. Surely there can't be many, however. I've exhaled directly through a white hankerchief and seen absolutely no evidence of particulates. Not like a cigarette, that's for sure.

 

[TheEmperorOfIceCream]

I haven't been brave enough to smoke at my desk yet, but if I ever do I'm sure HR will drag me in on the word of all the co-workers 'sickened' by my actions. It's mob rule of the kind I loathe (the spurious moral high ground varierty). I posted elsewhere that I make a point of using the device in bars and restaurants precisely to challenge that rule.

I don't believe for a second that Hammychang's colleagues were really sick. Saw the vapour and went into the act, exactly the same as before the ban, when people, outdoors in a howling gale, fifty yards from where I was smoking, would affect a cough.

They just don't like the look of it. We're cheating...

 

[Nazareth]

[QUOTE And doesn't that spell even more trouble as these things become more widespread in use? Just how many people need to complain "it made me so sick ..."?[/QUOTE]

I find it amazing that peopel can run around in a city filled with exhaust, purfumes, odors from garbage piling up, maneur on streets etc, with myriad odors all over hte place, but hte moment a cigarette comes into view, they all of a sudden 'get ill'- Now, I know some poeple genuinely are allergic, but the vast majority of peopel are not and simply want somethign to witch about, and will fall all to pieces if they even wiff a cigarette in public- I call it hte sissification of society- the simple fact is that these peopel don't want their olfactory senses 'offended' by sopmethign they don't like, but yet they will gladly walk the putrid streets of a city day in and day out because htey have to and they will be just fine and won't say a word, but when it comes to 'objecting' to cigarette smokers, they know they can bully us around and have hte law back them up doing so, and all of a sudden htese sissified people all spontaniously develop all manner of 'health issues' caused by someone smoking a cigarette 100 yards across the street on a windy day.

I mean seriously, when our foundign fathers and mothers created our great nations, they worked with chemicals and smells that could knock a starving dog off a gut wagon, and they did so their entire lives, but by golly, heaven forbid if someone today gets a whiff of tobacco that sends them to the emergency room complaining of brearthing issues or slight case of nausea- .

The fact is that E-Ciggs contain nothign harmful in an exhale, and although the flavored Carts have slight odors to them, the odor is not a health problem,

 

[Lady Python]

Just to put things in perspective a bit. I trialled my e-cig in a non-smoking friend's house with several non-smoking friends there along with some smoking friends. Even close up, no-one could smell anything.

If you eat a vanilla (or any other flavour) sweet, strawberry flavour or whatever, anyone fairly close up can smell it on your breath. I would say that the flavouring in an e-cig would have exactly the same effect.

I would also point out that this is Hammychang's first post and since the Troll Spray was out on another thread...

However, let me define an anti-smoker.

A person who takes offence at any item resembling a cigarette, cigar or pipe who, even if you were chewing the end of your pen/pencil/pipecleaner would take offence as it would appear you were simulating smoking

How this vile creature works is by planting the seeds of doubt and letting it grow until hysteria rules and the "offending" item/act gets banned.

For the record, we just moved to a new office this week. I've been happily puffing away on my e-cig. No-one at all has been affected in any way, shape or form by it.

I don't believe Hammychang's post for one second and I think everyone should take it with a very large pinch of salt!

 

[sanneke]

I totally agree with you Lady Python.

There have been a few trolls around the last couple of days.

ps; what happened to all the smilies?

 

[RatInDaHat]

This reminds me of something happening in my state. Not e-smoking related, but very similar in contest. Click Me

enjoy.

 

[Kit]

So i got my NJoy last month and I tried it out at the office the next day. While no one noticed an odor, and the vapor was fairly unnoticeable, my co-workers around me started getting sick. I'm assuming I wasn't inhaling the full nicotine content in each puff, and I was spreading the excess nicotine around the air.

You know when you had your first cigarette? And you felt dizzy, woozy, and if you went for 2, you pretty much threw up? That's what my co-workers went through, I felt pretty bad for them, having never smoked before but being exposed to nicotine in a roundabout way.

So, advice to the rest of you, avoid using your e-cigarette in enclosed areas!!

What absolute Bollocks....!

 

[TropicalBob]

causing symptoms of electromagnetic hypersensitivity

That's wild, Dusty. Remember back in elementary school when one kid would throw up in class and several others would upchuck in rapid succession? Sympathetic illness, it's called.

Still, I've read of people who could hear radio stations from fillings in their teeth vibrating in harmony with the radio waves. More than likely, though, the cause of these people's problem is among those suggested at the end of the story. If their symptoms are real, the cause is not electromagnetic hypersensitivity.

I did research one story years ago of a building that made people have headaches. Nothing seemed out of place. After all sorts of testing, investigators found --- inaudible to human ears -- loud infrasound noise. They traced the source to the roof of the building, where an air conditioner had worked loose some fastening bolts. The resulting vibrations traveled throughout the building, sickening everyone.

Maybe these WiFi folks are canaries in the modern mine. Maybe they're just a few loose nuts.

 

[RatInDaHat]

what they don't tell you is after the press conference, they are all on their cell phones.

Most of santa Fe is blanketed in Wi-Fi anyway. Just funny stuff.

 

[Kit]

I did research one story years ago of a building that made people have headaches. Nothing seemed out of place. After all sorts of testing, investigators found --- inaudible to human ears -- loud infrasound noise. They traced the source to the roof of the building, where an air conditioner had worked loose some fastening bolts. The resulting vibrations traveled throughout the building, sickening everyone.


hammychang should nip on the roof and check the air conditioning