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[Fidola13]

I apologize ahead of time but I don’t want to spend time looking thru threads for an answer when I know someone here will know the answer off the top of their head...

How large of a mini freezer will hold 7 liters of nic? I’m think 5ft per sq inch or would 3 be enough. There’s only about a $20 dollar difference so I think I just answered my own question lol!

Thanks for reading this anyways

 

[Fidola13]

That depends. USPS has 32 types of services for signature - regular signature required and then Adult Signature Required & Adult Signature Restricted Delivery.

What is Adult Signature Restricted Delivery?

• Adult Signature Required, requires the signature of an adult 21 years of age or older, anyone.
  
• Adult Signature Restricted Delivery requires the signature of the addressee only, who must be 21 years of age or older.
  
• Note: Prior to delivery, the recipient is required to show a government issued photo identification for proof of age and, in some cases, identity.

USPS.com FAQs

As far as FedEx and UPS, not sure, but last I checked they only have one signature service but not sure if ID is needed to verify adult status.

These may have changed, too lazy to check. lol

But I can tell you that these UPS and FedEx delivery drivers have dumped sig required packages at my door without ringing my doorbell and getting my signature. This was for expensive specialty medication I had to order by mail. They would just drop it and tell the computer system it was signed for (I know because tracking showed it was signed for). And no, it wasn't during the busy holiday season, either.

Same with all the delivery companies here too. I’ve never had to sign for anything even though it says clearly Adult Signature needed. I don’t know if that’s because my local drivers know me and know I’m an old coot lol!

 

[Fidola13]

Yeah, I just do their house nic, I never really saw the point in paying more for nic. With 19.5 liters in my stash, paying those higher prices would have cost a fortune.

Tbh I don’t think I could taste the difference in the house nic and the “boutique” nic at Nude Nicotine.

 

[puffon]

I apologize ahead of time but I don’t want to spend time looking thru threads for an answer when I know someone here will know the answer off the top of their head...

How large of a mini freezer will hold 7 liters of nic? I’m think 5ft per sq inch or would 3 be enough. There’s only about a $20 dollar difference so I think I just answered my own question lol!

Thanks for reading this anyways

3 CU FT would be plenty big for 7 ltrs.

 

[Fidola13]

3 would be plenty big for 7 ltrs.

Oh that’s good thanks. My roommate now thinks we could freeze food in it too. Why not? My freezer packed w nic and food already. So maybe 5 would be better. I really should like leave my house and look at the size of these things lol!

 

[puffon]

Oh that’s good thanks. My roommate now thinks we could freeze food in it too. Why not? My freezer packed w nic and food already. So maybe 5 would be better. I really should like leave my house and look at the size of these things lol!

Yep, a 5 cu ft would give room for food and nic, a full freezer is more efficient.
I have a 3 cu ft that has (24) USPS small flat rate boxes that hold (4) 125 ml bottles each box.
(96) 125 ml bottles > 12 liters.
Still have room for a couple of gals of Vg and some food.

 

[zoiDman]

Good luck with that with all the millions of small packages that claim to have baubles in them. They’ll probably get some but I don’t think they have the staff to do that esp when they should be looking for illicit drugs like fentynal and ....... Seems really a waste of resources and taxpayers money but when did that ever stop any government agency.

If I was doing it, instead of trying to go after Thousands of Packages every week, I would Lean on the Credit Card companies.

But I'm Not doing it. So take it for what It is Worth.

 

[Rossum]

Good luck with that with all the millions of small packages that claim to have baubles in them. They’ll probably get some but I don’t think they have the staff to do that esp when they should be looking for illicit drugs like fentynal and ....... Seems really a waste of resources and taxpayers money but when did that ever stop any government agency.

I think they will apply the Pareto principle and focus first on what's being produced domestically and/or sold at retail domestically, not small packages coming into the country from overseas. That will get them the most bang for their enforcement buck.

 

[Rossum]

How large of a mini freezer will hold 7 liters of nic?

1 cubic foot = 28.3 liters.
Of course this ignores packaging inefficiencies. But I'm pretty confident I could fit 7 liters in round bottles in a 1-cubic foot freezer.

My dedicated nic freezer is 2.1 cubic feet:

At our cabin, I have a 5 cubic foot chest freezer. It's got a whole lotta nic in it and still has room for the meat from two deer.

 

[Fidola13]

1 cubic foot = 28.3 liters.
Of course this ignores packaging inefficiencies. But I'm pretty confident I could fit 7 liters in round bottles in a 1-cubic foot freezer.

My dedicated nic freezer is 2.1 cubic feet:

At our cabin, I have a 5 cubic foot chest freezer. It's got a whole lotta nic in it and still has room for the meat from two deer.

This is really helpful. I definitely don’t need a freezer that big!

 

[Bronze]

This is really helpful. I definitely don’t need a freezer that big!

Go deer hunting and then you will.

 

[Fidola13]

Go deer hunting and then you will.

mmmmm no I’m not crazy about deer meat - too gamey plus I always think of a motherless Bambi

 

[BigPappa]

I think they will apply the Pareto principle and focus first on what's being produced domestically and/or sold at retail domestically, not small packages coming into the country from overseas. That will get them the most bang for their enforcement buck.

Good luck with that with all the millions of small packages that claim to have baubles in them. They’ll probably get some but I don’t think they have the staff to do that esp when they should be looking for illicit drugs like fentynal and ....... Seems really a waste of resources and taxpayers money but when did that ever stop any government agency.

I was just thinking that was the route that they went years ago, seizing shipments. Obviously they would never get all of the small packages, they'd focus on bigger shipments.

 

[Eskie]

If I was doing it, instead of trying to go after Thousands of Packages every week, I would Lean on the Credit Card companies.

But I'm Not doing it. So take it for what It is Worth.

I saw a news story a few weeks ago with customs standing in the middle of a warehouse filled with counterfeit Louis Vuitton bags, fake Rolex’s, and Gucci belts. They seize hundreds of millions of dollars of this stuff every year.

Can’t see how small packages of “Bluetooth speakers” or filters from FT can even land in their radar. Bulk wholesale shipments are another story, those are easy to seize if they want to invest the time.

 

[Iron Molly]

I saw a news story a few weeks ago with customs standing in the middle of a warehouse filled with counterfeit Louis Vuitton bags, fake Rolex’s, and Gucci belts. They seize hundreds of millions of dollars of this stuff every year.

Can’t see how small packages of “Bluetooth speakers” or filters from FT can even land in their radar. Bulk wholesale shipments are another story, those are easy to seize if they want to invest the time.

Also, large shipments make for great publicity photos and headlines. Small packages of "filters" do not.

 

[englishmick]

Oh that’s good thanks. My roommate now thinks we could freeze food in it too. Why not? My freezer packed w nic and food already. So maybe 5 would be better. I really should like leave my house and look at the size of these things lol!

I got a 1.4 cu ft Avanti front opening freezer. I have 4 liters in 1/2 L bottles in the bottom front section. Could probably fit 6 or 7 in there if it was in liter bottles because there's plenty of headroom. The upper section only has enough headroom for 125ml bottles. I could probably get 3L of small bottles in there. I only have 1L of small bottles in a plastic tub, use the rest of the space at the top for 1/4L plastic bottles of base.

It's surprising how much you can fit in a small space.

One cool feature of the Avanti is that it has a wide temp range. All the way from regular fridge to cold freezer. Though I only ever used it on the max cold setting

 

[Bronze]

I got a 1.4 cu ft Avanti front opening freezer. I have 4 liters in 1/2 L bottles in the bottom front section. Could probably fit 6 or 7 in there if it was in liter bottles because there's plenty of headroom. The upper section only has enough headroom for 125ml bottles. I could probably get 3L of small bottles in there. I only have 1L of small bottles in a plastic tub, use the rest of the space at the top for 1/4L plastic bottles of base.

It's surprising how much you can fit in a small space.

One cool feature of the Avanti is that it has a wide temp range. All the way from regular fridge to cold freezer. Though I only ever used it on the max cold setting

Think of how well we could make use of our freezer space if we could use square bottles.

 

[Rossum]

Think of how well we could make use of our freezer space if we could use square bottles.

Square (or rectangular) bottles with dimensions that were an even divisor of the freezer's interior dimensions would be ideal.

But the reality is, can can store plenty of nic is a pretty small freezer even in round bottles.

 

[zoiDman]

I saw a news story a few weeks ago with customs standing in the middle of a warehouse filled with counterfeit Louis Vuitton bags, fake Rolex’s, and Gucci belts. They seize hundreds of millions of dollars of this stuff every year.

Can’t see how small packages of “Bluetooth speakers” or filters from FT can even land in their radar. Bulk wholesale shipments are another story, those are easy to seize if they want to invest the time.

I Don't think Anyone, including the FDA, thinks that 100% of "Illegal" Tobacco Products can be intercepted by Customs.
But once again, Why would customs be the Only way to prevent these Products from entering the USA?

If I use a Credit Card to purchase an Item, I don't own the Item until the Credit Card balance is Paid. So this puts Credit Card companies in a Delicate position.

Because they would be Involved in the Importation of an "Illegal" Product. And that makes Lawyers Twitchy.

So after US Distributors/Retailers are basically shut down, if the FDA feels there is a Problem with someone like say Fasttech, I would imagine that CC/PayPal will receive notice that they might be in Legal Jeopardy if they continue to Facilitate the Importation of "Illegal" Tobacco Products.

And just like the FDA sends Under-aged people into Stores to see if a Retailer will sell a Pack of Smokes to a Minor. I'm sure the FDA will see if FT will send a Non-Allowed e-Cigarette to 10903 New Hampshire Avenue, Silver Spring, MD 20993 which was paid for using a CC or PayPal.

 

[markfm]

I apologize ahead of time but I don’t want to spend time looking thru threads for an answer when I know someone here will know the answer off the top of their head...

How large of a mini freezer will hold 7 liters of nic? I’m think 5ft per sq inch or would 3 be enough. There’s only about a $20 dollar difference so I think I just answered my own question lol!

Thanks for reading this anyways

7l is just a bit more than I have. I bought a 3 cubic foot, and roughly 3/4 of the space is used for food (pricey beef and scallops that had big year-end sales).

I went with a chest freezer, the nic is in 8oz glass bottles in tubs in the lowest part of it. A couple 4oz glass bottles, older stock, is in the mesh organizer bin in the top of the freezer, will be the first used.