The Final Count Down -- Are You Ready?

[BigPappa]

That sounds like teflon tape.

That's the last thing i would think about using for nic... that goes on the threads and I would worry about contamination from screwing on and off the cap and the nic dissolving the teflon.... I posted a link to the self fusing silicone tape a few posts before you asked this question. Self-fusing silicone tape seals the outside of the cap to the glass bottle making it airtight.

 

[mikepetro]

I have many glass boston rounds with polycone caps in a small dedicated freezer. I have had quite a few in the freezer since 2014. I have yet to have any of them leak. Nonetheless, as insurance I put them inside a shoebox tote to catch anything that might leak. Never bothered with any kind of tape or additional seal. Never had a leak yet.....

 

[puffon]

Teflon plumbers (used outside the bottle/cap) tape and electrical tape work great for ensuring the cap stays on.
Is it necessary? Probably not, the sealing is supposed to be at the poly cone liner, not outside the cap.
I'm using 6 year old nic that was sealed with Teflon and some with electrical tape, when removed the caps are still tight and sealed.

 

[Bronze]

I have many glass boston rounds with polycone caps in a small dedicated freezer. I have had quite a few in the freezer since 2014. I have yet to have any of them leak. Nonetheless, as insurance I put them inside a shoebox tote to catch anything that might leak. Never bothered with any kind of tape or additional seal. Never had a leak yet.....

It does seem the tape around the cap/bottle is a bit overkill.

 

[markfm]

Having the silicone tape will add a bit more formality, "class", when opening a bottle of 2019 nic in 2044.

"Ahh, yes, '19 vintage Heartland Vapes. Note how it retains the same subtle bouquet as the year it was bottled."

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[Bronze]

Having the silicone tape will add a bit more formality, "class", when opening a bottle of 2019 nic in 2044.

"Ahh, yes, '19 vintage Heartland Vapes. Note how it retains the same subtle bouquet as the year it was bottled."

[emoji3]

By 2044 I will be constantly adjusting my dentures, wearing a bib at the dinner table, and passing gas uncontrollably. I suspect any thought of class will be of low priority then.

 

[BigPappa]

I have many glass boston rounds with polycone caps in a small dedicated freezer. I have had quite a few in the freezer since 2014. I have yet to have any of them leak. Nonetheless, as insurance I put them inside a shoebox tote to catch anything that might leak. Never bothered with any kind of tape or additional seal. Never had a leak yet.....

I wasn't really worried about liquid leaking when I silicone taped mine. I was worried about air.

I topped off each bottle with argon gas and was worried about the argon gas eventually leaking out and oxygen being introduced. The self fusing silicone tape in combination with a ploy cone cap handled any concern that I had.

 

[mikepetro]

I wasn't really worried about liquid leaking when I silicone taped mine. I was worried about air.

I topped off each bottle with argon gas and was worried about the argon gas eventually leaking out and oxygen being introduced. The self fusing silicone tape in combination with a ploy cone cap handled any concern that I had.

Boston Rounds with polycone caps, filled with minimal air space, and stored at Zero degrees F have kept my 2014 vintage very clear.

Eventually I think you can hit the point of diminishing return with packaging.

 

[Alexander Mundy]

BUT let the nic come to room temp before filling with minimal air space or else they will burst the caps when warming up. Experience speaking, at least with high nic concentrations.

 

[ChelsB]

By 2044 I will be constantly adjusting my dentures, wearing a bib at the dinner table, and passing gas uncontrollably. I suspect any thought of class will be of low priority then.

Same! [emoji23] Well maybe not in diapers but I seriously doubt that I’ll care about such little things as class (or lack thereof) at that time


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[Uncle]

By 2044 I will be constantly adjusting my dentures, wearing a bib at the dinner table, and passing gas uncontrollably. I suspect any thought of class will be of low priority then.

What do Ya' mean by "then" . . . Just Sayin' . . .

Oh Yea - in the year 2044, I'll be way to old to even care, especially since I probably will be dead by then given the way things are going now . . .


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[Wow1420]

Yeah, I think the state-level bans and Trump's posturing were a real wake-up call for people. Having been ready since 2016, it's amusing to watch the frenzy. Even some people who said they were ready in 2016 are engaged in it. I suppose they're using it as an excuse for shinyitis, something I've developed an immunity to.

You talking about me?

I thought I was ready in 2017. And I didn't spend anything at all on vaping from fall 2017 until last week. Nothing, nada, zilch.

But, I decided to re-evaluate what "ready" means to me. 2 years ago, I was content with the idea that when my "nice" stuff ran out, I could go back to dripping my old mechs and/or vivi nova's on a home made battery box. (Like that altoids mode someone posted up thread. )

I was having trouble with my kbox mini last week, and I realized how lost I'd be without it now. So a mad dash ensued to upgrade my stash. I'm feeling better with the orders placed over the weekend, including 2l from Heartland, but I'm not done yet.

 

[BigPappa]

Boston Rounds with polycone caps, filled with minimal air space, and stored at Zero degrees F have kept my 2014 vintage very clear.

Eventually I think you can hit the point of diminishing return with packaging.

That's only 5-6 years... I keep my working liter out at room temp for 14 months, and my reserve in the freezer, but with the argon gas and silicone tape I was being paranoid about 20-30 years. lol

 

[Boudica]

Boston Rounds with polycone caps, filled with minimal air space, and stored at Zero degrees F have kept my 2014 vintage very clear.

Eventually I think you can hit the point of diminishing return with packaging.

 

[Boudica]

Sounds pretty good to me!
Hey mate could you PM me please. Im a good friend of Bill and Bobs. 21years.
Stopped going to see them recently because not adhering to the PRIMARY PURPORSE. My dad made friends with B&B over 50yrs ago and brought it to New Zealand 1950 I think.Started many, many, still thriving mtgs in mint condition Could help a few folk I reckon, pass it on. BTY I vape tons, drink killer shots coffee, all good. My primary purpose is very simple.....dont drink!

 

[Fidola13]

What do Ya' mean by "then" . . . Just Sayin' . . .

Oh Yea - in the year 2044, I'll be way to old to even care, especially since I probably will be dead by then given the way things are going now . . .


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Me too.

 

[JCinFLA]

@puffon - I'm SO glad you posted what you did on page 152, about what "phenolic" really refers to (as in plastic caps) and that the polycone liner is not phenolic, nor what phenolic means. I was catching up from p. 149 to now...and I was frustrated that I couldn't jump right in the middle of a bunch of those posts, to post it. I could stop muttering some choice words at my screen though, and just relax, after I saw your post. I did say a very audible "Yes!", too, at that moment. Thanks!

 

[JCinFLA]

There is 1 thing I didn't see anyone mention back on those pages, about another advantage of using the caps with polycone liners. As the cap is screwed onto the bottle...the polycone itself displaces most of the air in the neck of the bottle, if it's been filled up to allow just enough room for the cone to go in, but not enough to push any nic base out. It leaves the least amount of air trapped in the bottle, compared to any other type of cap, IMO.

 

[mikepetro]

Boston Rounds with polycone caps, filled with minimal air space, and stored at Zero degrees F have kept my 2014 vintage very clear.

Eventually I think you can hit the point of diminishing return with packaging.

IMHO, honey colored nic (of any strength) has not been stored well. Nic starts out almost water clear, any coloration is due to oxidation which mostly comes from heat and/or O2. What many of these companies are selling right now is opportunistic and damn near criminal. I hope that DIY survives, for many reasons, and if it does the companies selling this crap need to be boycotted.

To demonstrate my point. This is my 2014 nic, stored as mentioned above. I would expect a professional supplier to meet even higher standards. I took this pic tonight.

Even our own Dr Kurt (PhD in chemistry) said "Well-sealed glass + a little headspace + freezer = done.", no need to use gas for the headroom or hermetic sealing of the outer bottle.

Now keep in mind that there is also a well known phenomena that the stronger the nic, the faster it will oxidize and turn color given identical exposure to light, heat, and oxygen. I.e 250mg nic will turn color a lot faster than 100mg nic under identical conditions.

This nic is 10 times stronger than your typical 100mg nic, and it turns color quite fast if not stored well. This is undiluted, however when I dilute this to 100mg there is no noticeable color at all.
You be the judge if my packaging was sufficient...

 

[G and C]

There's a lot of knowledge in this room on nic storage, and I appreciate the opportunity to learn from it.

Back when I first started DIY, I bottled my nic into 4oz. amber polycone capped bottles, but only with 100ml in each of them. Not sure why I did it that way, but I did. It's been almost four years now, and even though there's quite a bit of head space in there, I don't see much if any discoloration of the nic itself when I take a new bottle out to use it. It's consistently stored at -10F, in the amber bottles, in a cardboard box, in the freezer.

The newer stuff I've purchased for the long haul is all bottled and stored the same way, only now it has as little headspace as possible. I'm feeling better about that stuff lasting me 20-30 years as I've budgeted for.

I do tend to wrap caps of full bottles with white electrical tape. It's easy to write on and let's me know that I've never opened that bottle for anything. I think it might just make me feel better about the storage process, however misguided that may be.