OK. Don't panic. If you've got questions, ask.
I'm okay to start but not to last past nine months. I'm actually hoping I can stop everything by then, though.
OK. Don't panic. If you've got questions, ask.
ty for the info ... About havin' another way to order if need be hun !This is Jerry's response when I asked why the site is down...
"Our SSL cert expired. It should get fixed tomorrow. If you need to place an order please let me know. We have a secure option if needed."
This is Jerry's response when I asked why the site is down...
"Our SSL cert expired. It should get fixed tomorrow. If you need to place an order please let me know. We have a secure option if needed."
Hmm.. Well, if DYI nicotine doesn't go away, there will be a huge "informal market" for juice.Dimetri says he believes 'DIY nicotinne will never go away'. He didn't elaborate or defend that opinion and I won't be relying on his prediction, 90% of my stash is in place, but he might be right.
Ah - "No Fork in the Road" - Well at least not yet, since I haven't posted "The Problem" here (although I have mentioned it somewhat on other threads). But since you asked, I will jump ahead of my reading other post to search for an answer and let Ya' know "My" quandary. . .
The situation . . .
1) I live in a 1 Bd room apartment in a Senior Community Apartment Complex. And even though it is one of the larger apartments here, it has a small Kitchen with a small refrigerator and an even smaller freezer (that is usually filled with Food - cannot get rid of it - NEED to Eat).
2) Not Allowed to replace it with larger Refrigerator - nor get a seperate small Freezer (Couldn't afford to away) . . .
3) Worse, Since it is a HUD subsidize residence, not only is smoking cigarettes/tobacco products/medicinal products banned - they have banned Vaping (matter of fact, they have banned any open flames, including candles/incense, etc.). Given this, there are 3 month maintenance inspections which include maintenance people checking out that you are not violating the "House Rules" (Smoking/weird Smells, not keeping the apartment clean/maintained, etc). As a result, I cannot have any vaping equipment or supplies out in sight either.
Now here is the Problem . . .
Right now, since I am no longer a dual-user . . . I just started purchasing premixed Unflavored 24 nic 50/50 E-liquid (Kolada/Menthol Crystal Liquid - gave up on trying to find ADV flavored e-liquid), so what I have in "My" Vaping storage area is only 1 Litter. AND - Although, I only use approximately 5 ml of e-liquid a day, I know I will need to get much more for the future . . .
So - What are the other options of getting and storing enough e-liquid that I will NEED in the future ? ? ?
AND - No - I don't DIY, it's hard enough to figure out how much Kolada/Menthol Crystal Liquid to add to the Unflavored Premixed Nic E-liquid that goes into a small tank . . . Just Sayin' . . .
Look that's "My" Story and I'm sticking with it . . .
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Got my gallon of salt nic from LNW yesterday. Bottling today.
Since we're already off the rails--
I've been using nanophosphate batteries in 18500 and 26650 mods. Very safe chemistry, long battery life--but one big difference. They run at 3.2V. They stay at 3.2V, then they eventually drop off to nothing rather suddenly. So you can vape them dry.
So, of course, they only work with mechs. I'm liking the results of running subohm coil builds and heads at 3.2V. It's a subohm world, and this is one way to keep the vapor cool. It's also a battery chemistry that is completely disassociated from vaping. They're used mostly for solar lighting.
The only nanophosphate batteries that I've seen in 18650 don't have high enough current ratings for even a low wattage wizard like me. I'm sure they're coming, though.
You mean LFP?
Lithium iron phosphate battery - Wikipedia
18650s here:
A123 System High Power Nanophosphate LiFePO4 18650 Rechargeable Cell: 3.2V 1100 mAh, 30A Rate, 3.52Wh
30A, but only 1100 mAh, so about 1/3 the Wh we're used to. That said, looking at discharge curves recently, I'v concluded that I really only use the top 1/3 of my batteries anyway, so with slightly revised builds, they'd probably work.
I'm guessing you mean LiFePO4 (lithium iron phosphate) for the chemistry? I'm using those in 26650 in a tube mod at the moment (26650 squonker on the way). There are 1100mah a123-18650 LiFePO4 rated to 30 amps (have some on the way from Europe, but can't vouch for them or the seller yet) --- they can be found in the US:
A123 System High Power Nanophosphate LiFePO4 18650 Rechargeable Cell: 3.2V 1100 mAh, 30A Rate, 3.52Wh
but they had ridiculous shipping charges to ship to Canada.
edit: also, LFP cells typically have 1000+ cycle life as well.
I mean nanophosphate, which is the description of the chemistry on the wrapper. Of course, the 18500's (different brand) have LiFePo4 on the wrapper. Battery life is deceiving. When these puppies fall off, they're pretty much dead. You can definitely use more than the top third.
For me, though, the biggest attraction is the voltage.
On edit--I found those 18650's for $5.99 at 18650 Battery Store (shipping is reasonable)
Lithium Werks 18650 1200mAh 30A LiFePO4 Battery - 18650 Battery Store
Some places do use "nanophosphate" as the descriptor for their LiFePO4 (lithium iron phosphate) cells.
And yes, the voltage, or rather the stable voltage under most of the discharge (flat discharge curve) is appealing ... it is practically like having a constant voltage mod, except it's a mech![]()
These sound absolutely wonderful.I mean nanophosphate, which is the description of the chemistry on the wrapper. Of course, the 18500's (different brand) have LiFePo4 on the wrapper. Battery life is deceiving. When these puppies fall off, they're pretty much dead. You can definitely use more than the top third.
For me, though, the biggest attraction is the voltage.
On edit--I found those 18650's for $5.99 at 18650 Battery Store (shipping is reasonable)
Lithium Werks 18650 1200mAh 30A LiFePO4 Battery - 18650 Battery Store
The more likely work around would be buying pre mix from an online retailer who is off shore and the package slips through the cracks. It's hard to believe selling pre mix at scale within the US would be worth the risks. May be my problem is I can't understand why a pre mix business exists beyond getting people started. That's my blind spot.Hmm.. Well, if DYI nicotine doesn't go away, there will be a huge "informal market" for juice.
Pay it off each month. No interest.We are in different living situations, but I understand completely. My issue right now is more of a budget one. I think I will be able to buy 1 liter this fall/winter, when that runs out I may have to vape 0mg. Plenty of old flavors left, so at least it will be flavored lol. I've been thinking about getting a credit card, as ridiculous as that sounds to me. I hate the credit interest scam.
We are in different living situations, but I understand completely. My issue right now is more of a budget one. I think I will be able to buy 1 liter this fall/winter, when that runs out I may have to vape 0mg. Plenty of old flavors left, so at least it will be flavored lol. I've been thinking about getting a credit card, as ridiculous as that sounds to me. I hate the credit interest scam.
LFP cells get charged to 3.6V maximum. Some chargers have a setting for them, for example the XTAR VP2. That's a quality charger (albeit an older model) that you can get for under $20 these days. I bough several from a CoOp here in late 2014 or early 2015 for a considerably higher price. I've kept them as backups because I prefer the way 18650s fit in my VP1s.Question about those LiFeP04 18650s: They would need to be charged to 3.3V maximum, right? So either I'd have to stay right on top of my charger and pull the batteries when they reach, say, 3.2V or get one that let me set the end voltage? (I already have my eye on one of those; this would simply give me the excuse to buy it.)
I believe so, yes. They're definitely less volatile when physically damaged (punctured or crushed). Of course the main worry in a mech is a dead short. I'm not sure how they'd behave then. I may just have to find out at some point (of course not in an actual mod!)Also, am I correct in thinking these would add a layer of safety to using a mech? I mean, all the usual precautions would still need to be taken, but the chemistry is intrinsically less volatile, which would cut down the risks?
I haven't taken the time to learn mixing my own juices. Other than that I can buy a bunch of sh stuff before the new regs kick in.
I remember I love this song. The 80s rock.
I like the look of those. I really don’t like mods that are boxy or square looking. The just don’t look comfortable to hold. Maybe the are but I still prefer some curves lol!Ah - no that's a V2 which appears NOTHING like the V1.
The V1 used to be on FTech, but looks out of stock in all the colors...
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They seem discontinued, and the only place I found them, I've never heard of...wisevice out of Texas?
I do still think it's a bargain, and worth having one!
I purchased four (they come in two-packs) Gearlight flashlights off Amazon for $10 per pack. I bought them because they take 18650's. Perfect for us vapers because we can use our batts for both. I find age kills my batteries more than over-cycling so it works out good. I hate using standard alkaline batteries. Expensive and they leave a larger waste stream. So flashlight talk is not completely off topic.![]()
Yes, indeed. It is all re-bottled![]()
Question about those LiFeP04 18650s: They would need to be charged to 3.3V maximum, right? So either I'd have to stay right on top of my charger and pull the batteries when they reach, say, 3.2V or get one that let me set the end voltage? (I already have my eye on one of those; this would simply give me the excuse to buy it.)
Yes, the chemistry is much safer --- see:Also, am I correct in thinking these would add a layer of safety to using a mech? I mean, all the usual precautions would still need to be taken, but the chemistry is intrinsically less volatile, which would cut down the risks?
My math skills are fairly good so I was able to calculate mine in my head in about 12 seconds. I’m sure there are others who have even better math skills who could do it in 9 seconds.![]()