The Final Count Down -- Are You Ready?

[CMD-Ky]

Do you think smokers are, "weak-minded, low-class, disgusting, sub-human, troglodyte, reprobates who should be ostracized and shamed by our fellow citizens" ?

Generally no, but in the case of @Bronze, I have to mull that over some. It's a case by case thing.

 

[Jewell]

vaping is still perceived as smoking by the general public. We haven't got a chance.

Yeah my “primary health care provider” told me the other day that I hadn’t really quit smoking 7 years ago when I switched to vaping. So why do I no longer have chronic bronchitis ?and how come I don’t cough up phlegm in the morning like when I was smoking tobacco? No answer. Just vape=bad.
Meanwhile cigarettes are legal and widely available. And alcohol comes in a zillion flavors.

Well, it looks like the time for hiding in the house doing illicit stuff may be moved up. I made a big Ahlusion order (but not enough!) I was already worried about them in Michigan, now Trump wants to do it to the whole country. So much for him being against burdensome regulations.

I had just sent my old Hexohm for repair and today I bought an extra one and a couple more mech mods. I have a collection of other hardware. Fortunately I do have experience building. No experience with DIY juice though but I just bought a starter kit from Nicotine River.
The credit card statement is gonna be painful.

 

[rosesense]

If a Dr. ever said that to me, I would ask him/her if they drink alcohol? Use meds? Eat fatty foods? You get the drift.

 

[Mowgli]

Is that essentially kick starting some of the oxidation that would also occur with aged nic base that has the increased bite?

Maybe. It didn't accelerate it though. My 2014 TV TH is still good as new.

 

[Opinionated]

I'm going through all the prescreening and testing for surgery, and when I sat with the Anesthesiologist she warned me that people are dying from vaping..

I had to explain to her that the people dying are vaping CBD products and not nicotine products for smoking cessation..

she didn't know that.. and we sat and talked about it for a while..

this is the new problem... most people don't know no one is dying from vaping nicotine products.

 

[Dr. Seuss]

Isn’t it all thc products? I don’t think I’ve heard it cross over to cbd yet. Probably not a lot of folks after black market cbd at this point.

 

[Bronze]

If a Dr. ever said that to me, I would ask him/her if they drink alcohol? Use meds? Eat fatty foods? You get the drift.

If they are that ill-informed I would find another doctor.

 

[Opinionated]

Isn’t it all thc products? I don’t think I’ve heard it cross over to cbd yet. Probably not a lot of folks after black market cbd at this point.

Someone died from something purchased at a state dispensary, so I thought it was CBD, but It could be THC products.. I might be misinformed myself to a degree.

 

[Jazzman]

If a Dr. ever said that to me, I would ask him/her if they drink alcohol? Use meds? Eat fatty foods? You get the drift.

So you would try to divert the conversation instead of having a discussion about what he thought was bad about vaping? What he does with alcohol or eating has nothing to do with you vaping and is a clear attack and diversion. It would be much better to have a discussion and who knows, you might learn him a thing or two which might help more of his patients. At the very least you will reveal his prejudice and lack of knowledge which has the off chance to get him to re-think his position or do some actual research into vaping. Just seems the better course of action.

 

[T0mmy1977]

Is this recent talk of banning flavored e-liquid really that serious? Where do I begin to learn mixing my own juice? I am a complete newb when it comes to that. Thank you!

 

[Opinionated]

Is this recent talk of banning flavored e-liquid really that serious? Where do I begin to learn mixing my own juice? I am a complete newb when it comes to that. Thank you!

DIY E-Liquid

^^^ Its a subforum of the General Eliquid forum here on ECF.. you can read threads and ask questions about mixing there..

 

[Bronze]

I've been around awhile and I dont know what CBD is.

 

[T0mmy1977]

DIY E-Liquid

^^^ Its a subforum of the General Eliquid forum here on ECF.. you can read threads and ask questions about mixing there..

Thanks! @Opinionated

 

[Ceejay0875]

I've been around awhile and I dont know what CBD is.

It's an extract of hemp, that can only contain less than 0.3% THC, so you don't get high from it. I use it for arthritis pain relief, the balm and capsules, I've never tried the vape form. Some use it to relieve anxiety, I know there are other uses but I can't remember them all right now, and some uses haven't been medically proven so I don't want to steer someone the wrong way on a public forum.

 

[T0mmy1977]

It's an extract of hemp, that can only contain less than 0.3% THC, so you don't get high from it. I use it for arthritis pain relief, the balm and capsules, I've never tried the vape form. Some use it to relieve anxiety, I know there are other uses but I can't remember them all right now, and some uses haven't been medically proven so I don't want to steer someone the wrong way on a public forum.

Yes. I use it for anxiety. I have heard it can even be beneficial for treating symptoms of psychosis.

 

[Bronze]

It's an extract of hemp, that can only contain less than 0.3% THC, so you don't get high from it. I use it for arthritis pain relief, the balm and capsules, I've never tried the vape form. Some use it to relieve anxiety, I know there are other uses but I can't remember them all right now, and some uses haven't been medically proven so I don't want to steer someone the wrong way on a public forum.

What does CBD stand for?

 

[Mowgli]

Now he's backpedaling. BUT KEEP CALLING WH AND TWEETING BLOTUS.

This grab is from Labworks (Aussie)
From Dr. F (Greece)
I dunno which timezone the timestamp indicates.

My take on 45's latest distraction is:

Step 1 - Piss off vapers
Step 2 - Take it back
result = more votes from the triggered
also result = States still fighting bans - SSDD

 

[Uncle]

If a Dr. ever said that to me, I would ask him/her if they drink alcohol? Use meds? Eat fatty foods? You get the drift.

SO BEEN THERE DONE THAT . . . Primary never said not to - nor gave me a hard time about it, however my Pulmonary was AND - had a very self-righteous attitude about my stopping smoking in more ways then one. He already knew that I didn't "take any guff", but even though I provided him with a lot of information (especially from here on ECF & CASSA), he argued with me for over 4 years about my using an e-cig (still dual using at the time). Then recently (8 months ago to be exact), all of a sudden - He said I should try an e-cig to stop smoking . . .

Bet Ya' can't imagine what I said to him that day . . .



Especially since, unbeknownst to him - I already became a full time vapor when I started using unflavored w/menthol/kolada . . . Just Sayin' . . .



.

 

[Mowgli]

What does CBD stand for?

CBD? LMGTFY

 

[Bronze]

Now he's backpedaling. BUT KEEP CALLING WH AND TWEETING BLOTUS.

This grab is from Labworks (Aussie)
From Dr. F (Greece)
I dunno which timezone the timestamp indicates.

My take on 45's latest distraction is:

Step 1 - Piss off vapers
Step 2 - Take it back
result = more votes from the triggered
also result = States still fighting bans - SSDD

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He backtracked because one of his advisors told him vapers are gonna hammer him in 2020. The process worked.