The Final Count Down -- Are You Ready?
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My guess is: Much less in any case.
But that's only a guess.
And my attitude with flavors is: If I find one that disagrees with me, I will stop using that flavor. There was a black currant I really liked, but after using it as my morning wakeup vape for a while, I started noticing some irritation in my throat and windpipe, that always went away when I switched to unflavored later in the day. Needless to say, I not longer use that flavor.
If you use a high volume of liquid with heavy flavoring there is more risk than low volume, low flavoring. What I use all day is low flavoring, medium volume. What I vape for fun may be high flavoring, maybe some that are higher risk, but very low volume.
I've prepared for us to continue to use the amount of nic and flavorings we've used for a few years. Thinking about the next 15-20 years, I am going to start dropping both a bit, from about 9% flavoring, 9mg nic, to reach 6 for both. I don't know whether we can tolerate less nic than 6mg but we'll see. My nic supply suddenly has more years of availability!
I've prepared for us to continue to use the amount of nic and flavorings we've used for a few years. Thinking about the next 15-20 years, I am going to start dropping both a bit, from about 9% flavoring, 9mg nic, to reach 6 for both. I don't know whether we can tolerate less nic than 6mg but we'll see. My nic supply suddenly has more years of availability!
If you drop slowly and make an effort to vape the same amount each day when you do drop you will be fine. Its rushing the drop in mg's and vaping more to compensate that have you chasing your tail.
I was happy at 12mg and 9mg and didnt really think I would shift down successfully in dosage at all.
ffw a year and Im very content with 2.5mg to 3mg.
I calculated my vapocalypses nic stash when I was using about 4ml of 9mg each day, Ive been using about 2ml of 3mg a day for the last week. My 20yr stash is now about 135yrs. HA! I will be dead.
I have been playing around with my nic tolerance, mg's and ml's, for the last 18months or so, not so much to quit nic but to find out the bottom line, the point where I can vape the least amount while feeling satiated, and normal.
So far every drop in mg or amount consumed seems to have made it easier to drop further but I still expect to hit the wall where the amount or the mg's does nothing.
I'm planning on a gradual drop from 9mg to 6mg over about six months. If that sticks for both of us I'll stay there for some time.
The tradeoff between how many mg are necessary to avoid a major consumption increase, how much nic affects the cardio vascular system and how much nic maintains it's mental benefits is to be determined. Under 6mg has made my wife edgy in the past but even 6 helps the stockpile projection!
People are different. Some have no trouble with a gradual reduction in nic level while others will just vape more juice and end up consuming the same amount of nic. Some can do it, but turn into miserable, grouchy people without realizing it.
Bottom line: Try it, but don't count on success.
Hah! I tend toward the second category; I just end up vaping more liquid to keep my nic consumption the same. I worked my way down from 15 to 13 a half a milligram at a time over a period of about two years, but I'm still going through a bit more now than I was at 15. I see no benefit in reducing the level further if it makes me vape more.LOL, maybe you should up your nic levels you miserable grouch
I don't know, may be I was more miserable and grouchy, although I think it's possibly my natural state so there is that! hahaha..
When I first stopped using nicotine, I vaped more but only for a short time, then I slowly stopped vaping.. almost literally, although a puff or two every now and then was still nice..
But in cutting down on nicotine, I think the potential is there to vape more at first, but then even out again once the body settles itself..
Evening out eventually has been my experience. I cut down from 24mg to 12mg, over 9 years. I seem to be stuck there right now, but I don't think all this banning nonsense is helping.
This atmosphere lately is stressful.. do you have enough nicotine? do you have enough gear? It's ridiculous in America to even have to consider.
I'm back to vaping 3mg lately over personal stress, but the political climate and worry just isn't helping either..
Even if I do someday get down to zero nic, I still want nic available for stressful situations. That was my downfall with quitting smoking. I'd make it OK for a while, then something stressful would happen, and back to the cigs.
Given our state of knowledge, we could put the Vape Doomsday Clock right next to the Earth is Dying Clock, NSWAG.
I agree totally, there is no point dropping mg's if your ml's go up and stay up.
So far at 2mg I would vape all day and feel nothing from it, no putting the vape down and feeling like I was done for awhile. Maybe that would change and become my new normal if I gave it time, or maybe I would slide slowly into a dark abyss of despair.
3mg on the other hand I take some drags, feel satisfied and then put the vape down and do stuff without a vape in hand or nearby.
I have worked on this though, I take nic free days regularly. I have radically dropped nic mgs and monitored my reactions and moods for a day or two and then boosted the nic level to below my previous high, just to see what happens.
Im quite aware that 10 -14days of a new lower dosage is the real test for me, not 2hrs or 2days. Everyone is going to feel something over two days. If I am out of sorts and getting worse after 10-14days I up the dosage a little til Im mentally..emotionally...chemically back on track.
Then I start working at it again.
One thing I have learned about fooling around with nic tolerance is, nothing bad happens if I go without nic for a few days or 2 weeks or if I drop the mg for a week. Its okay for me to feel out of sorts, its temporary and easily rectifiable.
Too true, Opinionated
Good or Bad . . . 
Finally the Local Newspaper - Sun Sentinel - instead of printing another Op-Ed following the current hysteria against "Vaping" & "E-Cigarettes" - they actually printed 2 Op-Eds from an outside source as Another Viewpoint, that included the actual causes of "vape" related illnesses & Deaths that increased this hysteria in the first place ( Sun Sentinel - Broward) . . .
Here are the original articles:
The only thing is, they also had these Political Cartoons right next to the articles:
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Finally the Local Newspaper - Sun Sentinel - instead of printing another Op-Ed following the current hysteria against "Vaping" & "E-Cigarettes" - they actually printed 2 Op-Eds from an outside source as Another Viewpoint, that included the actual causes of "vape" related illnesses & Deaths that increased this hysteria in the first place ( Sun Sentinel - Broward) . . .
Here are the original articles:
Ban on e-cigarette flavors — ineffective and dangerous
FDA should regulate e-cigs to limit access to young folks
FDA should regulate e-cigs to limit access to young folks
The only thing is, they also had these Political Cartoons right next to the articles:
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UGH! we've earned the nickname Mass-holes today. The Governor of MA (an R by the way) put a 4 month ban on ALL ecig sales today -- what are the odds they'll reinstate them after that? Then there's the continuing count down for the FDA. We've lost a window of opportunity to stock up. Good thing I have friends in other states to take delivery if needed or there's the black market - all the vape shops have to close immediately so there should be some stuff floating around. What a thing to do to them - for the children, right???
My heart goes out to all of you in MA, the vapors and shops are doomed, it's scary what is happening now, I think we are all doomed in the US, it's only going to spread now, very sad times. I think it will come back, but only be stuff like juul
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