The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

[Wingsfan0310]

Daddy Dan,
DIY can be a very rewarding experience but there is a lot of trial and error involved. I personally did tons of research here before I made my first order. It's not as easy as ordering your favorite juice from your favorite vendor. You can't expect your first juices are going to be as good as something you buy from your favorite vendor (it might be, but generally there is a steep learning curve).

I look at it a little like working on your car. If you need a repair you have two choices:
1. You can take it to the shop and pay someone to fix it (more expensive, but easy)
or
2. You can fix it yourself. Buy the parts, do some research, get your hands dirty (cheaper, but a lot more effort).

What I'm trying to say if you expect it to be as easy as ordering juice and being as good as your favorite juice your first time out, your probably going to be disappointed. I'm also going to add if you're not sure that you want to do it, then you probably shouldn't.

I'm not telling you not to try it, heck I love DIY'ing my juice. Just tyring to tell you that you have to be realistic in your expectations. There's definitely a learning curve involved. Good luck!

Cheers,
Steve

 

[BigLungs]

Exactly what Wingsfan said.

I do want to add a couple of points here.
Buying pre-made liquid may be simpler but there is absolutely no guarantee that you will like it, and there are no refunds for liquid from anywhere that I have came across (for obvious reasons).

There is also no guarantee that you will like your DIY liquid, but at least with DIY I can add to or dilute down my creations and change it to something that I will enjoy. That being said it does take some knowledge to understand how to do these things, but it is not rocket science.
Nothing other than the most basic of math is involved here

Edit. Also some have the misconception that DIY is ridiculously time consuming, and that is false. Once you get to know your flavors it is much simpler than ordering liquid IMO. I can whip up a bottle of liquid in less than 5 min, if I don't quite like it I can fix it in under 5 more. That's less than 10 minutes for me until I am enjoying something that I created.

I can't even pick a new liquid from a website in less time than that because I feel the need to read reviews on it just to get an idea of what it will taste like.

 

[Calcobra98]

Idyi ejuice is like baking a great cake or cooking a great soup, it takes practice and trial and error, its not like unboxing a new electronics plug and play.... Its chemistry, but rewarding once u get the hang of it, its a hobby and it rewarding saves you tonnes of cash.... Its a learning experience....


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[Steven Pye]

so has anyone used the TFA 555? I see WL has it and I am interested- looking for feedback on taste and starting %

 

[AmandaD]

so has anyone used the TFA 555? I see WL has it and I am interested- looking for feedback on taste and starting %

Be careful with that one! I made some for a friend at 7%. It seemed fine for about 1 day, and then it was completely overpowering. We ended up dumping it. It could have been diluted down, but somehow we both decided we didn't like the flavor at all after that.

It was steeped also for 4 hours in the crockpot (we tested it before hand).

I'd really try at a low percentage - maybe 2%. You can always increase it if you need to later.

 

[boborone]

10charsssssss

 

[boborone]

Here is a cut and paste - not my list!
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Quote Originally Posted by 03FXDWG View Post
This is my list that I try to update when someone posts a "vapable" percentage. No mixes--all straight single flavors.

555 10-20% 2/5
Absinthe Flavor Concentrate 5-10%
Almond Amaretto Flavor Concentrate 5-10% 5/5
American Red Tobacco Flavor Concentrate 3-10%
Apple Candy 15%
Apple Flavor 10-15%, 4.5/5
Banana Cream Flavor 5-15%
Banana Nut Bread Flavor 5-7%
Bavarian Cream Flavor 5-15%
Bittersweet Chocolate (Extra) Flavor 10-15% 4/5
Black Cherry Flavor 5-15% 5/5
Black Honey Tobacco 3-5%
Black Sesame Seed Flavor .1 %
Black Tea Flavor 2.5-12% 3/5
Blackberry Flavor 2-15%
Blueberry 15%
Blueberry Candy 13%
Blueberry (Wild) Flavor 15%
Blueberry Flavor (Extra) 10-13% 6/5
Boysenberry Flavor 5/5 ~1%
Brown Sugar 15-20% 4/5
Brown Sugar Extra 2%-10%
Bubblegum Flavor 10-15%
Butterscotch Flavor 12%
Cantaloupe 10-12%
Caramel Candy Flavor 15-20% 5/5
Caramel Cappuccino Flavor- No more than 2 drop in 10ml base
Caramel Flavor 10-15% 5/5
Chai Tea Flavor 10% 5/5
Champagne Type Flavor (PG) 5-7%
Cheesecake Flavor 5-15%, 2/5
Cherry Blossom (PG) 5%-15%
Chocolate Flavor 10%-15% 5/5
Citrus Punch Flavor 5-7%
Chocolate Mint (Not Listed ) 10% (more chocolate than mint)
Cinnamon Danish 10-12% 4/5 (needs to steep)
Cinnamon Flavor(alc) .25-.5%
Cinnamon Red Hots Flavor 5-10% 5/5
Cinnamon Spice Flavor .5% to start
Cinnamon Sugar Cookie 5%-15%
Clove Flavor 2-3%
Coconut Candy: 5-10% 5/5
Coconut Extra Flavor 2%-10% 5/5
Coffee (Clear) 0.25-5%
Coffee (Kona) Flavor 1drop/10ml 4/5
Cola Flavor 5-10% 5/5
Cotton Candy Flavor 10-20% 5/5
Crème de Menthe 5-14%
DK Tobacco Base Flavor 2%-5%
Double Chocolate (Clear) Flavor 10-12% 4/5
Dragonfruit Flavor 5-12%
Dulce de Leche Flavor 10% - overpowering at 20%
Earl Grey Tea 2-3%
Eggnog 10-20%
Energy Drink Flavor 10%
English Toffee Flavor 5-17%
Espresso 3% or less
Flue Cured Flavor 2%
French Vanilla Flavor 5%-10%
Gingerbread Cookie 8-10%
Graham Cracker Flavor 10-15% 5/5 recommended for combining
Grape Jolly Rancher 8% - 10%
Grape Juice Flavor 8%-12%
Green Apple Flavor 12-20%
Green Tea Flavor 5%-15%
Gummy Candy Flavor 7%
Hawaiian Punch Flavor 12%
Hazelnut Flavor 16% 5/5
Hazelnut Praline Flavor 5% 2/5
Hibiscus Flavor 1-2%
Holiday Spice Flavor 0.5-3% (start at 0.5%)
Honey Flavor 1-5%
Honeydew Melon Flavor 5-10%
Honeysuckle Flavor 10- 15% tank cracker
Horchata Flavor 5%, 5/5
Hpno Type Flavor (alc) 5-10%
Irish Cream Flavor 10 - 12%
Juicy Fruit 10-13%
Kalua & Cream 5%+
Key Lime Flavor 3%-10%
Key Lime Flavor Concentrate 12%
Key Lime Pie 12%
Koolada 10% (PG) .5-1%
Lemon Lime Flavor 5% 4/5
Licorice(not listed) 3%- 10% 5/5 long steep time (weeks)
Lime Flavor (Essential Oil) 1-5% 4/5
Lychee Flavor 2-7%
M Type Premium Flavor 0.5%-1%
Malted Milk Extra (Conc) 5% (best mixed with others)
Mango Flavor 10-15%
Maple Syrup Flavor 10-15
Maraschino Cherry (PG) 5% 4/5
Menthol Arctic: 2 drops/ml 5/5
Menthol Liquid (PG) 2-5%
Mild Black <2.5% (VERY strong)
Milk Chocolate Flavor 4%-20% 4/5
Mint Candy 12% 4/5
Mint Chocolate Chip 10%
Mocha 5%
Mt. Dew 10-20%
Musk Candy Flavor <3%
Nectarine Flavor 11%
Orange Cream Flavor 5-10% 5/5
Papaya Flavor 10% 5/5
Passion Fruit Flavor <20%
Peach Flavor 12-15%
Peach (Juicy) Flavor 5%- 17%
Peanut Butter Flavor 10-15% 5/5
Pear Flavor 10-15% 4.5/5
Peppermint Flavor 5%-15%
Pie Crust Flavor .5-12%
Pina Coloda 15%
Pineapple Flavor 15% 4.5/5 (authentic flavor w/5% EM)
Pizza Flavor ~5% 5/5
Plum Flavor 5-10% 4/5
Pomegranate Flavor 7.5%-14%
Popcorn Flavor 13%-15%
Pumpkin 7%
Quince Flavor 10%
Raisin Flavor 0.5%-3% (Powerful)
Raspberry Flavor 5-10%
Red Bull: 10%
Red Type Blend 5-15%
Red Oak 3% sweet and smokey
Ripe Banana Flavor 8-20%
Rose Candy Flavor 7%
RY4 Asian Flavor 10-15%
RY4 Double Flavor 5%-15%
Smooth Flavor 2 drops per 5 ml
Spearmint Flavor <5% Very Strong
Strawberries and Cream Flavor 10-12%
Strawberry Flavor 3%-15%
Strawberry Kiwi 20% 1/5
Strawberry Ripe 15%
Sweet Cream Flavor 5-10% 4/5 recommended for combining fake butter taste
Sweet Tart: 10% 5/5 Tastes more like Smarties
Sweetener 2%-6%
Tangerine Flavor (oil based) 1-5% 5/5
Tiramisu Flavor 2-5% VERY strong
Toasted Almond Flavor 15%
Toasted Marshmallow Flavor 10-15%
Tobacco Absolute (1. Pure) <1%
Tobacco Blend (Alc) 0.5-2.5%
Tobacco Flavor 10-20%
Tutti Frutti flavor 10-15% 4.5/5
Vanilla (Bourbon) Flavor(alc) 10-15% 4.5/5
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream Flavor 4-8% 4/5 (excellent mixer) *** this containsAcetyl Propionyl, which carries potential inhalation risks.
Vanilla Cupcake 20%
Vanilla Swirl 10%
Violet Candy Flavor 10% - 12%
Waffle (Belgian) Flavor 8-12%
Waffle Flavor 20% 5/5
Watermelon Flavor 15% 4/5
Whipped Cream Flavor 14% 3/5
White Chocolate Flavor 10%
Wintergreen: 20% 5/5
PA Sucralose Sweetener: .5-2%+ 4.5/5
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Copied from post #1671 of this thread. Hope it helps. It is dated 12/29/2013

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[Heabob]

I knew there would be math lol. I just assumed it was as simple as take say 3 drops of nicotine if your choice add half pg half vg for 50/50 and drop as many flavor and or sweetener drops to taste. I looked at that pic a few posts ago of the juice me calculater and realized that you could take maybe 48mg nicotine and cut it to say 12 or 18 mg nicotine lol. Hence the more math involved. I'm a noob to the DIY and haven't fully decided on doing it yet. I want to but i do t want to spend the time trying to make something that doesn't taste as good when I could get something I have a crap shoot of liking while keeping our economy and someone employed lol.

Most DIY because they can make better juice than the premixed, (usually after a bit of learning).

I tried a few premixed but didn't find much I liked, so, rather than spend hundreds trying out all the premixed juice,
I decided to spend the hundreds on flavorings, nic base, etc.
And read a lot on this forum trying to learn as much as possible before jumping in.
Hope you have a PC to use a calculator like ejuicemeup, as i don't think it would be possible on a phone IDK...

 

[t8kiteasy]

Most DIY because they can make better juice than the premixed, (usually after a bit of learning).

I tried a few premixed but didn't find much I liked, so, rather than spend hundreds trying out all the premixed juice,
I decided to spend the hundreds on flavorings, nic base, etc.
And read a lot on this forum trying to learn as much as possible before jumping in.
Hope you have a PC to use a calculator like ejuicemeup, as i don't think it would be possible on a phone IDK...

Yea android has a juice calculator app.

 

[cctex]

I have Planet of the Vapes ejuice calculator on my android.

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[Heabob]

Yea android has a juice calculator app.

Ahh, cool, have to hunt that up...

 

[boborone]

I think some people make the math harder than it is. I'm a wiz at math and my girlfriend and buddy, who don't know math that well, both understand when I'm talking about mixing juice.

>>What mg nic do they want?
Figure amount
100mg/1ml to Xmg/1ml

>>Add flavor

>>If they are putting it in a clearo/carto, add at least 30% PG minus amount of flavor.

>>Fill with VG.

For my personal juice, I skip PG step and fill with VG.

>>Agitate bottle

That's it. That's how I do it. Not much math involved. You can make harder by going the Rube Goldberg route and doing some German engineering on your juice, but why do that. Keep It Simple Stupid.

 

[flowerpots]

Anyone tried Musk Candy flavor? Any reviews at all?

 

[rasmith1959]

Most DIY because they can make better juice than the premixed, (usually after a bit of learning).

I tried a few premixed but didn't find much I liked, so, rather than spend hundreds trying out all the premixed juice,
I decided to spend the hundreds on flavorings, nic base, etc.
And read a lot on this forum trying to learn as much as possible before jumping in.
Hope you have a PC to use a calculator like ejuicemeup, as i don't think it would be possible on a phone IDK...

You can with an Android device. There's an app called eLiquid Recipe Manager Pro that's excellent for creating and managing your eliquid recipes. There's 2 versions a free one and a paid (Pro) version. The Pro version does away with ads and adds a few neat features. The Pro version is only $3.99 and well worth it!



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[Big_Jim]

Anyone tried Musk Candy flavor? Any reviews at all?

I saw it at WL and thought about ordering it. I cant say that I've ever had the actual flavor life-saver though.

 

[flowerpots]

I saw it at WL and thought about ordering it. I cant say that I've ever had the actual flavor life-saver though.

I've ordered it and should get it in the mail by the end of the week. I'll post a review on it when it comes in.

 

[Calcobra98]

You can with an Android device. There's an app called eLiquid Recipe Manager Pro that's excellent for creating and managing your eliquid recipes. There's 2 versions a free one and a paid (Pro) version. The Pro version does away with ads and adds a few neat features. The Pro version is only $3.99 and well worth it!



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This is what i use: http://www...................../create


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[Brenetics]

Hey guys, I'm about to place my order at TFA and I need some good recipes for graham cracker/ cheesecake pic crust recipes. Those are my fave some I'm trying to make some base flavors to attempt to perfect.

Does anyone have a really good recipe to recommend?

Thanks

Currently on a 26650 kick...

 

[flowerpots]

Hey guys, I'm about to place my order at TFA and I need some good recipes for graham cracker/ cheesecake pic crust recipes. Those are my fave some I'm trying to make some base flavors to attempt to perfect.

Does anyone have a really good recipe to recommend?

Thanks

Currently on a 26650 kick...

Hey brenetics,

I have been compiling recipes from searches on the web. I will look at mine and see if I have one like that....

I looked and don't have any that fit that description. You may want to do a general google search for ejuice recipes and see what you can find. Good luck to you!

 

[Brenetics]

Thanks!

Currently on a 26650 kick...