I like it at 7% if I plan on letting it steep. Letting it steep will enhance and change the flavor. If you can control yourself, letting it steep 3-4 weeks it becomes even better. (the caramel notes come out more)
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Agreed! Second! YES!
Ok, I mix mine low, most of my flavors I like a weaker flavor rather than being punched in the face with flavor, but I still like to know I am tasting something. After many attempts and failed bottles I have come to this: I am using 5% RY4 Double and 1% EM and letting it steep 3 weeks before I touch it. any time I think about it I go to the cabinet where I steep my juices and give all the ones waitig a good vigorous shake.
Now, on the topic of RY4 flavors, has anyone else noticed after a LONG steep (more than 2 months) that is begins to develop almost a slight coconut tone to it? I think this is due to the flavors that are in RY4 finally coming out to their full potential, it could also be my taste buds playing tricks on me. Has anyone else noticed this? Or am I just crazy? Could this possibly be a strange side effect of using EM? I do think that the EM brings out the vanilla a little more. it seems that in batched without EM vs batches with it, after a nice long steep I get a more blended vanilla note. Just looking for thoughts on this.
Also another recipe
Blueberry freeze:
5% Blueberry Xtra
1% Koolada
Steep it long dark and cool
I find Blueberry Xtra to be a strong flavor, but I know some like it strong, so if you are already using it at a higher percentage just try adding Koolada to it.
It's been long time since the flavor list was re-posted. Somebody get on that! Still need an answer to my question re: TFA espresso. Any experiences with TFA espresso? That's the only one I have (on the way) that I don't know what to do with, there a few others that I am interested in that have not been reviewed yet. I will be making juice for a friend, and he wants bacon. I think it sounds weird, but having no clue as to how to mix it could make even weirder.
Speaking of all the bacon love out there (TV shows devoted to it), a few thousand TV commercials have made me ask, 'when are they going to make a cool ranch?'. JK(?)
Seriously, TFA espresso, what the concentration recommendations? Also, BUMP!
actually it is koolada that is recommended to enhance fruit and mint flavors. While it is used in higher quantities in "ice" type menthol eliquids, a single drop in a 5 to 10 ml bottle will enhance the citrus like aspects of fruit flavors.
Hmm either way, I'll tell you that Menthol ain't cutting it for me. Have yet to try anything that I've liked with it in there. What is Koolada like? Like a mint and light menthol combined?
koolada gives juice a cool/cold (temperature)feel to it. So if you want something to taste like you just pulled it out of the frig., koolada should do the trick.
Updated list:
555 10-20% 2/5
Absinthe: 10%
Almond Amaretto: 5-10%, 5/5
Apple: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Banana Cream 10%-15%
Banana Nut Bread: 5-7% (Great for mixing)
Bavarian Cream 5%-15%
Belgium Waffle 8-!2% 4/5
Bittersweet (Choc): 10-15%, 4/5
Black Cherry: 5-15%, 5/5
Black Honey Tobacco: 3-5%
Blackberry: 6%
Black Tea 12 % 3/5 needs a little steeping
Blueberry: 15%
Blueberry Extra: 6/5 10-13%
Brown Sugar 15-20%
Bubblegum: 10%>
Butterscotch: 12%
Caramel: 10-15%, 5/5
Caramel Candy: 15-20%, 5/5
Caramel Cappuccino: 1 drop in 10ml base 4/5
Chai Tea: 10% 5/5 Very Unique, a must try
Cheesecake: 5-15%, 2/5
Cherry Blossom; 15%
Caramel Cappuchino 1 drop/10ml
Chocolate: 10-15%, 5/5
Chocolate Mint: 10% (more chocolate than mint)
Cinnamon Red Hots: 5-10%, 5/5
Coconut Extra: ~10%, 5/5
Cotton Candy: 10-20%, 5/5
DK Tab 555: 2%-5%
Dragon Fruit: 5-12%
Double Chocolate (Clear) 10-12% 4/5
Dulce de Leche: <10%> - overpowering at 20% - good for combining
French Vanilla: 10% (For me: Gets chemical/perfume tones over 5%)
Graham Cracker: 10-15%, 5/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Grape: 12%
Green Apple: 12%
Hazelnut 16% 5/5
Hazelnut Praline: 5%, 2/5
Honeysuckle: 10- 15% - very good but FYI will crack a tank
Horchata: 5%, 5/5
Irish Cream: 10 - 12%
Juicy Peach 17%
Key Lime Pie 12%
Kona Coffee: 1drop/10ml, 4/5
Lemon/Lime 5% 4/5
Licorice 5/5 10% needs a few weeks to steep
Lime (oil-based): 1-5%, 4/5
Lychee: 5-7%
M-type Tobacco- 1% for starters It requires a loooong steep!
Malted Milk: 5% (best mixed with other others)
Mango: 13%
Marachino Cherry: 5%, 4/5
Milk Chocolate: 20%, 4/5
Mint Candy: 12%, 4.5/5
Mt. Dew 10%-20%
Orange Cream: 5-10% 5/5 (To note, I am using all vg. So, I use it at higher %'s)
Papaya: 10% 5-5 (Very Fragrant)
Peach (not juicy) 12-15%
Peanut Butter: 10-15%, 5/5
Pear: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Peppermint: 15%
Pie Crust 12% 2/5
Pineapple: 15% 4.5/5 ( authentic flavor, I used 5% EM to sweeten)
Pizza: ~5%, 5/5
Plum: 5-10%, 4/5
Pomegranate: 7.5%-14%
Popcorn: 13%-15%
Raisin: 1-3% (Powerful)
Raspberry: 10%
Red Bull: 10%
RY4 Double- 15%
RY4 Asian: 10-15%
Smooth 2 drops per 5 ml
Spearmint: <5% Very strong start small
Strawberry: 3%-15%
Strawberry Kiwi 20% 1/5
Strawberries & Cream: 10-12% (good on its own, better with 3-5% EM)
Sweet Cream: 5-10%, 4/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Sweet Tart: 10%, 5/5 - Tastes more like Smarties
Tangerine (oil-based): 1-5%, 5/5
Tiramisu-- 8%-15% Over 15% tastes like burned coffee
Tobacco Blend Alcohol: 2.5%
Toasted Marshmallow: 10-15%
Toasted Almond: 15%
Tobbaco Absolute (TA): <1%
Tutti Frutti: 10-15%, 4.5/5 (closer to 15% the more VG I use)
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream: 4-8%, 4/5 (excellent mixer)
Vanilla Bourbon: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Vanilla Cupcake: 20%
Vanilla Swirl: 10%
Violet Candy: 10 - 12% (one of my favorite vapes)
Waffle: 20%, 5/5
Watermelon: 15% 4/5
White Chocolate: 10% (note: mine had sugar as ingredient)
Wintergreen: 20%, 5/5
PA Sucralose Sweetener: 2%+, 4.5/5
555 10-20% 2/5
Absinthe: 10%
Almond Amaretto: 5-10%, 5/5
Apple: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Banana Cream 10%-15%
Banana Nut Bread: 5-7% (Great for mixing)
Bavarian Cream 5%-15%
Belgium Waffle 8-!2% 4/5
Bittersweet (Choc): 10-15%, 4/5
Black Cherry: 5-15%, 5/5
Black Honey Tobacco: 3-5%
Blackberry: 6%
Black Tea 12 % 3/5 needs a little steeping
Blueberry: 15%
Blueberry Extra: 6/5 10-13%
Brown Sugar 15-20%
Bubblegum: 10%>
Butterscotch: 12%
Caramel: 10-15%, 5/5
Caramel Candy: 15-20%, 5/5
Caramel Cappuccino: 1 drop in 10ml base 4/5
Chai Tea: 10% 5/5 Very Unique, a must try
Cheesecake: 5-15%, 2/5
Cherry Blossom; 15%
Caramel Cappuchino 1 drop/10ml
Chocolate: 10-15%, 5/5
Chocolate Mint: 10% (more chocolate than mint)
Cinnamon Red Hots: 5-10%, 5/5
Coconut Extra: ~10%, 5/5
Cotton Candy: 10-20%, 5/5
DK Tab 555: 2%-5%
Dragon Fruit: 5-12%
Double Chocolate (Clear) 10-12% 4/5
Dulce de Leche: <10%> - overpowering at 20% - good for combining
French Vanilla: 10% (For me: Gets chemical/perfume tones over 5%)
Graham Cracker: 10-15%, 5/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Grape: 12%
Green Apple: 12%
Hazelnut 16% 5/5
Hazelnut Praline: 5%, 2/5
Honeysuckle: 10- 15% - very good but FYI will crack a tank
Horchata: 5%, 5/5
Irish Cream: 10 - 12%
Juicy Peach 17%
Key Lime Pie 12%
Kona Coffee: 1drop/10ml, 4/5
Lemon/Lime 5% 4/5
Licorice 5/5 10% needs a few weeks to steep
Lime (oil-based): 1-5%, 4/5
Lychee: 5-7%
M-type Tobacco- 1% for starters It requires a loooong steep!
Malted Milk: 5% (best mixed with other others)
Mango: 13%
Marachino Cherry: 5%, 4/5
Milk Chocolate: 20%, 4/5
Mint Candy: 12%, 4.5/5
Mt. Dew 10%-20%
Orange Cream: 5-10% 5/5 (To note, I am using all vg. So, I use it at higher %'s)
Papaya: 10% 5-5 (Very Fragrant)
Peach (not juicy) 12-15%
Peanut Butter: 10-15%, 5/5
Pear: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Peppermint: 15%
Pie Crust 12% 2/5
Pineapple: 15% 4.5/5 ( authentic flavor, I used 5% EM to sweeten)
Pizza: ~5%, 5/5
Plum: 5-10%, 4/5
Pomegranate: 7.5%-14%
Popcorn: 13%-15%
Raisin: 1-3% (Powerful)
Raspberry: 10%
Red Bull: 10%
RY4 Double- 15%
RY4 Asian: 10-15%
Smooth 2 drops per 5 ml
Spearmint: <5% Very strong start small
Strawberry: 3%-15%
Strawberry Kiwi 20% 1/5
Strawberries & Cream: 10-12% (good on its own, better with 3-5% EM)
Sweet Cream: 5-10%, 4/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Sweet Tart: 10%, 5/5 - Tastes more like Smarties
Tangerine (oil-based): 1-5%, 5/5
Tiramisu-- 8%-15% Over 15% tastes like burned coffee
Tobacco Blend Alcohol: 2.5%
Toasted Marshmallow: 10-15%
Toasted Almond: 15%
Tobbaco Absolute (TA): <1%
Tutti Frutti: 10-15%, 4.5/5 (closer to 15% the more VG I use)
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream: 4-8%, 4/5 (excellent mixer)
Vanilla Bourbon: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Vanilla Cupcake: 20%
Vanilla Swirl: 10%
Violet Candy: 10 - 12% (one of my favorite vapes)
Waffle: 20%, 5/5
Watermelon: 15% 4/5
White Chocolate: 10% (note: mine had sugar as ingredient)
Wintergreen: 20%, 5/5
PA Sucralose Sweetener: 2%+, 4.5/5
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Umm, I thought pie crust was good at 4-6%^^
I just got some absinthe flavoring. Anyone have experience with it?
I just got some absinthe flavoring. Anyone have experience with it?
Anyone have any recommendations for making a great fruit vape out of TPA only ingredients. I have most of their basic fruit flavors. If its any guide I would love to make a flavor like copper creeks pear, passion fruit, or peach. I have already tried juicy peach and pear as stand alone vapes and while both are decent, neither one is cutting it for me. I also got some sour 20% in today so maybe I need to add some of it to make things pop?
So, a recipe for a fruit vape that is not candy like?
So, a recipe for a fruit vape that is not candy like?
We just got another batch of flavors in the mail from WL and one of them I am having a hard time finding any starting info for.
Has anyone got any experience with mint chocolate chip?
Has anyone got any experience with mint chocolate chip?
I see both 555 (10-20%)and DK TAB 555(2-5%). I didn't know there were two.
Updated list:
Absinthe: 10%
Almond Amaretto: 5-10%, 5/5
Apple: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Banana Cream 10%-15%
Banana Nut Bread: 5-7% (Great for mixing)
Bavarian Cream 5%-15%
Belgium Waffle 8-!2% 4/5
Bittersweet (Choc): 10-15%, 4/5
Black Cherry: 5-15%, 5/5
Black Honey Tobacco: 3-5%
Blackberry: 6%
Black Tea 12 % 3/5 needs a little steeping
Blueberry: 15%
Blueberry Extra: 6/5 10-13%
Brown Sugar 15-20%
Bubblegum: 10%>
Butterscotch: 12%
Caramel: 10-15%, 5/5
Caramel Candy: 15-20%, 5/5
Caramel Cappuccino: 1 drop in 10ml base 4/5
Chai Tea: 10% 5/5 Very Unique, a must try
Cheesecake: 5-15%, 2/5
Cherry Blossom; 15%
Caramel Cappuchino 1 drop/10ml
Chocolate: 10-15%, 5/5
Chocolate Mint: 10% (more chocolate than mint)
Cinnamon Red Hots: 5-10%, 5/5
Coconut Extra: ~10%, 5/5
Cotton Candy: 10-20%, 5/5
DK Tab 555: 2%-5%
Dragon Fruit: 5-12%
Double Chocolate (Clear) 10-12% 4/5
Dulce de Leche: <10%> - overpowering at 20% - good for combining
French Vanilla: 10% (For me: Gets chemical/perfume tones over 5%)
Graham Cracker: 10-15%, 5/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Grape: 12%
Green Apple: 12%
Hazelnut 16% 5/5
Hazelnut Praline: 5%, 2/5
Honeysuckle: 10- 15% - very good but FYI will crack a tank
Horchata: 5%, 5/5
Irish Cream: 10 - 12%
Juicy Peach 17%
Key Lime Pie 12%
Kona Coffee: 1drop/10ml, 4/5
Lemon/Lime 5% 4/5
Licorice 5/5 10% needs a few weeks to steep
Lime (oil-based): 1-5%, 4/5
Lychee: 5-7%
M-type Tobacco- 1% for starters It requires a loooong steep!
Malted Milk: 5% (best mixed with other others)
Mango: 13%
Marachino Cherry: 5%, 4/5
Milk Chocolate: 20%, 4/5
Mint Candy: 12%, 4.5/5
Mt. Dew 10%-20%
Orange Cream: 5-10% 5/5 (To note, I am using all vg. So, I use it at higher %'s)
Papaya: 10% 5-5 (Very Fragrant)
Peach (not juicy) 12-15%
Peanut Butter: 10-15%, 5/5
Pear: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Peppermint: 15%
Pie Crust 12% 2/5
Pineapple: 15% 4.5/5 ( authentic flavor, I used 5% EM to sweeten)
Pizza: ~5%, 5/5
Plum: 5-10%, 4/5
Pomegranate: 7.5%-14%
Popcorn: 13%-15%
Raisin: 1-3% (Powerful)
Raspberry: 10%
Red Bull: 10%
RY4 Double- 15%
RY4 Asian: 10-15%
Smooth 2 drops per 5 ml
Spearmint: <5% Very strong start small
Strawberry: 3%-15%
Strawberry Kiwi 20% 1/5
Strawberries & Cream: 10-12% (good on its own, better with 3-5% EM)
Sweet Cream: 5-10%, 4/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Sweet Tart: 10%, 5/5 - Tastes more like Smarties
Tangerine (oil-based): 1-5%, 5/5
Tiramisu-- 8%-15% Over 15% tastes like burned coffee
Tobacco Blend Alcohol: 2.5%
Toasted Marshmallow: 10-15%
Toasted Almond: 15%
Tobbaco Absolute (TA): <1%
Tutti Frutti: 10-15%, 4.5/5 (closer to 15% the more VG I use)
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream: 4-8%, 4/5 (excellent mixer)
Vanilla Bourbon: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Vanilla Cupcake: 20%
Vanilla Swirl: 10%
Violet Candy: 10 - 12% (one of my favorite vapes)
Waffle: 20%, 5/5
Watermelon: 15% 4/5
Whipped Cream 14% 3/5
White Chocolate: 10% (note: mine had sugar as ingredient)
Wintergreen: 20%, 5/5
PA Sucralose Sweetener: 2%+, 4.5/5
Absinthe: 10%
Almond Amaretto: 5-10%, 5/5
Apple: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Banana Cream 10%-15%
Banana Nut Bread: 5-7% (Great for mixing)
Bavarian Cream 5%-15%
Belgium Waffle 8-!2% 4/5
Bittersweet (Choc): 10-15%, 4/5
Black Cherry: 5-15%, 5/5
Black Honey Tobacco: 3-5%
Blackberry: 6%
Black Tea 12 % 3/5 needs a little steeping
Blueberry: 15%
Blueberry Extra: 6/5 10-13%
Brown Sugar 15-20%
Bubblegum: 10%>
Butterscotch: 12%
Caramel: 10-15%, 5/5
Caramel Candy: 15-20%, 5/5
Caramel Cappuccino: 1 drop in 10ml base 4/5
Chai Tea: 10% 5/5 Very Unique, a must try
Cheesecake: 5-15%, 2/5
Cherry Blossom; 15%
Caramel Cappuchino 1 drop/10ml
Chocolate: 10-15%, 5/5
Chocolate Mint: 10% (more chocolate than mint)
Cinnamon Red Hots: 5-10%, 5/5
Coconut Extra: ~10%, 5/5
Cotton Candy: 10-20%, 5/5
DK Tab 555: 2%-5%
Dragon Fruit: 5-12%
Double Chocolate (Clear) 10-12% 4/5
Dulce de Leche: <10%> - overpowering at 20% - good for combining
French Vanilla: 10% (For me: Gets chemical/perfume tones over 5%)
Graham Cracker: 10-15%, 5/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Grape: 12%
Green Apple: 12%
Hazelnut 16% 5/5
Hazelnut Praline: 5%, 2/5
Honeysuckle: 10- 15% - very good but FYI will crack a tank
Horchata: 5%, 5/5
Irish Cream: 10 - 12%
Juicy Peach 17%
Key Lime Pie 12%
Kona Coffee: 1drop/10ml, 4/5
Lemon/Lime 5% 4/5
Licorice 5/5 10% needs a few weeks to steep
Lime (oil-based): 1-5%, 4/5
Lychee: 5-7%
M-type Tobacco- 1% for starters It requires a loooong steep!
Malted Milk: 5% (best mixed with other others)
Mango: 13%
Marachino Cherry: 5%, 4/5
Milk Chocolate: 20%, 4/5
Mint Candy: 12%, 4.5/5
Mt. Dew 10%-20%
Orange Cream: 5-10% 5/5 (To note, I am using all vg. So, I use it at higher %'s)
Papaya: 10% 5-5 (Very Fragrant)
Peach (not juicy) 12-15%
Peanut Butter: 10-15%, 5/5
Pear: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Peppermint: 15%
Pie Crust 12% 2/5
Pineapple: 15% 4.5/5 ( authentic flavor, I used 5% EM to sweeten)
Pizza: ~5%, 5/5
Plum: 5-10%, 4/5
Pomegranate: 7.5%-14%
Popcorn: 13%-15%
Raisin: 1-3% (Powerful)
Raspberry: 10%
Red Bull: 10%
RY4 Double- 15%
RY4 Asian: 10-15%
Smooth 2 drops per 5 ml
Spearmint: <5% Very strong start small
Strawberry: 3%-15%
Strawberry Kiwi 20% 1/5
Strawberries & Cream: 10-12% (good on its own, better with 3-5% EM)
Sweet Cream: 5-10%, 4/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Sweet Tart: 10%, 5/5 - Tastes more like Smarties
Tangerine (oil-based): 1-5%, 5/5
Tiramisu-- 8%-15% Over 15% tastes like burned coffee
Tobacco Blend Alcohol: 2.5%
Toasted Marshmallow: 10-15%
Toasted Almond: 15%
Tobbaco Absolute (TA): <1%
Tutti Frutti: 10-15%, 4.5/5 (closer to 15% the more VG I use)
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream: 4-8%, 4/5 (excellent mixer)
Vanilla Bourbon: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Vanilla Cupcake: 20%
Vanilla Swirl: 10%
Violet Candy: 10 - 12% (one of my favorite vapes)
Waffle: 20%, 5/5
Watermelon: 15% 4/5
Whipped Cream 14% 3/5
White Chocolate: 10% (note: mine had sugar as ingredient)
Wintergreen: 20%, 5/5
PA Sucralose Sweetener: 2%+, 4.5/5
Vanilla cupcake is soooo DRY. Can anyone recommend a fruit or something to add to it that is really wet?
Try it at 17%
It is best in the 15-20% range
Look at the chart bro.
I like to take the numbers from the chart and start slightly lower.
It is best in the 15-20% range
Look at the chart bro.
I like to take the numbers from the chart and start slightly lower.
Does anyone have any experience with their Kentucky Bourbon flavor what percentages etc?
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I made a batch on march 27 at 14% and was disappointed, not nearly as nice as i remembered. i tried it again this morning and it was much better so I'm thinking that the steeping helped.
About to try some strawberries n cream @7% w 4-5 drops sucralose. 10ml. my first tfa... 
Has anyone tried both the Chocolate and the Double Chocolate? If so I would love to hear how they differ. I am considering mixing one of the two with banana nut bread, but am unsure which route to go on that.
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