Yup, that was it y'all! Thank you!!!!!!!! I just figured that it'd be good to have out there. I CANNOT figure out where I noted it in my notebook lol I'll re-save it!
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Yup, that was it y'all! Thank you!!!!!!!! I just figured that it'd be good to have out there. I CANNOT figure out where I noted it in my notebook lol I'll re-save it!
Looks good reni! I am very happy with mine, makes it so much easier. Now, get to mixin'!
It was specifically the grape candy, you might want to note. I was getting harshness, and mixing with raspberry helped. There's also grape juice, but I don't know whether it needs anything to help it out.
Also, I am doing a bit of a re-vamp on Jay's Custard. I was talking with my dad the other day and I brought up what I had created. He asked why I didn't add lemon in it-since Grammy's (their mother's) butterscotch custard always had a lemon/cinnamon smell to it. I realized I hadn't had her custard or any of her other baked goods for that matter, in about 15 years. So I rang her up!
She said that she had a bottle in the cellar (with all the rest of the home canned goods!) that was lemon zest/vodka/cinnamon sticks. I do remember her going down there during holidays and such-but didn't even think twice about it. Every time she would use some of it for cooking, she'd take out the old cinnamon stick/zest and refresh the bottle with new ones and put the cinnamon stick on the pot on the pot belly stove in the shop (she had kind of a potpourri thing going on out there-so it smelled like tractors and desert lol). I just HAD to ask where this came from. As usual for the generation-she picked it up from HER older relatives. She believes it was her great great grandmothers "thing". Cinnamon was VERY expensive and good luck finding it if you could afford it. So her great great grandmother created this "flavoring" for all sorts of foods. Though she only remembered how to use it in custard. And here we are!
Now, I've got to figure out how to make this work. She gave me her recipe-but of course, I don't have the "mix", so I won't be able to actually taste it until I make that (which I WILL be doing). I'm going to see what I can come up with tonight and post it after I work it out and see what everyone thinks!
Back to the lab!
She said that she had a bottle in the cellar (with all the rest of the home canned goods!) that was lemon zest/vodka/cinnamon sticks. I do remember her going down there during holidays and such-but didn't even think twice about it. Every time she would use some of it for cooking, she'd take out the old cinnamon stick/zest and refresh the bottle with new ones and put the cinnamon stick on the pot on the pot belly stove in the shop (she had kind of a potpourri thing going on out there-so it smelled like tractors and desert lol). I just HAD to ask where this came from. As usual for the generation-she picked it up from HER older relatives. She believes it was her great great grandmothers "thing". Cinnamon was VERY expensive and good luck finding it if you could afford it. So her great great grandmother created this "flavoring" for all sorts of foods. Though she only remembered how to use it in custard. And here we are!
Now, I've got to figure out how to make this work. She gave me her recipe-but of course, I don't have the "mix", so I won't be able to actually taste it until I make that (which I WILL be doing). I'm going to see what I can come up with tonight and post it after I work it out and see what everyone thinks!
Back to the lab!
Off work, caught up on reading this thread and new info; looks like back to the drawing board I go, possibly switching ratios around, more ideas, awaiting flavorings, hoping to get started by thursday
hehehe thanks!
I am I am I am!!!!! (it's you know who's days off, so now he's sleeping-I can mix away lol)
Of course I remember, though I don't know where the post is. The gist of it is that some flavorings will give a chemical/floral taste to them at higher percentages. The secret to counteract that is to add raspberry to the mix. Strawberry sometimes does this too. Graps for example, has a chemical flavoring to it. Add about 2% raspberry to get it to "go away." Also, smooth (a pina colada flavor) works to do the same thing, which then means that adding creams to your juice can also help eliminate floral and chemical flavorings, as well. Because some juices taste chemically, it was once thought that mixes couldn't go over about 15% total flavoring. Rubbish. Add raspberry or some vanillas and creams to the mix, and those chemical/floral notes will disappear. Is that what you were referring to?
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Ok, now I see that this has been thoroughly answered after that posting, making the above totally redundant. By the way, the grape will also go chemical on you, so I use strawberry in my grape starburst recipe as well.
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Would this be what you are talking about? I love this pumpkin roll , if it is great idea if not I'm going to work on it.
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In other news.... I made something that tasted EXACTLY like vomit! woohooo!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone is MORE than welcome to the recipe
Think will pass on that one ren, I have done enough of my own....
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Think will pass on that one ren, I have done enough of my own....
When the flavor is no longer fresh in my mind.... I'm going to try a ml or so in a tank and see if it's just the bridgeless that's making it taste off. At this moment in time, everything is kind of blah. More I think because I put a new candle on tonight than anything else lol
just stopping by to let others know that I ventured to kmart ,AC moore and found the glass droppers at kmart and AC Moore had some lorans flavors,not cream cheese but i got rasberry and they had an orange oil, not sure about that. But they did have anise and about 8-10 flavors in all. Also I ran across Wiltons flavors in the candy making area that were pg base and the one I grabbed was butter flavor, 2oz for about 2.00. Hope this helps,I am going to stop at walmart around here and michaels to see if I can find any others.
Yay!
I'm just sitting here catching up on the races. Needed a break from creating. Will probably become horizontal for a wee bit here in a few. If nothing else, it will feel better than sitting at my lab area all day!
I'm just sitting here catching up on the races. Needed a break from creating. Will probably become horizontal for a wee bit here in a few. If nothing else, it will feel better than sitting at my lab area all day!
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Yes,that is exactly the type i was talking about.I think the pumpkin pie recipe i posted yesterday is what i am going to use as a starter to try and come up with something,but maybe you can come up with something as well,i dont care who comes up with it as long as i can vape me some pumpkin roll haha.
Another good find,i'll have to check kmart,i doubt the one near me will have them either since nobody else around here carries them,but i will check anyway.
I sort of failed at the Danish juice. I'm waiting on icing and I tried to use frosted donuts instead for the icing. It tastes like a glazed cinnamon donut
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A glazed cinnamon doughnut actually sounds pretty good.
Today must be my lucky day.I went in to work at 5:30am and was back home at 6:00am there was a schedule change and i got a day off,just wish they told me before i got there.Good day for it though since my tfa order is coming today.
Today must be my lucky day.I went in to work at 5:30am and was back home at 6:00am there was a schedule change and i got a day off,just wish they told me before i got there.Good day for it though since my tfa order is coming today.
Bill and others what would be the starting steps? There is a tobacco I like and the reason I started into DIY at the time I just ordered a flavor that was named the same added pg/vg/nic and ....
Have since ordered many tobaccos from various companies and same results. Gave up on it. Came across a banana split recipe and subbed 1 or 2 flavorings I didn't have which turned out fairly decent and has become my ADV. Very recently came upon your and others insights here and want to take another swing the proper way. So... Where would I start since it's a tobacco flavor? Do the flavor chart test on all the tobaccos I have? What if I don't have the right one, order more?
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You do have to flavor test you TFA flavorings, and record your impressions on each one.Bill and others what would be the starting steps? There is a tobacco I like and the reason I started into DIY at the time I just ordered a flavor that was named the same added pg/vg/nic and ....
Have since ordered many tobaccos from various companies and same results. Gave up on it. Came across a banana split recipe and subbed 1 or 2 flavorings I didn't have which turned out fairly decent and has become my ADV. Very recently came upon your and others insights here and want to take another swing the proper way. So... Where would I start since it's a tobacco flavor? Do the flavor chart test on all the tobaccos I have? What if I don't have the right one, order more?
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When flavor testing any juice, you are trying to identify initially the one or two primary flavorings, and one or two secondary flavorings in the mix, so you have to be familiar with your arsenal of flavorings. Your sense of smell is the first step, way before mixing. What does the juice to be copied smell like? What tobacco flavoring comes closest to matching that flavor? Next, what else can you smell, and/or taste? If you cannot find some of the flavorings by smell and taste, it's going to be hard to copy. I can generally identify three or flavorings by smell, perhaps another one or two with taste. I don't have to get it perfect, just in the ballpark. There are such things as smelling strips too, which do help a great deal. I use them all the time. I got them from TFA way back when, but I'm not sure if she still sells them, but they are readily available.
Put the juice to be copied on the flavor strip and let it waft in the air below your nose. Take it in and try and put a label on what you smell. See how many ingredients you can identify. Check those aromas against the aromas in your flavorings. You may or may not have a particular flavoring, but still may be able to identify it. As you identify each ingredient, write it down, and then return here to report your findings, and we'll take the next step, i.e., mixing and percentages. good luck!
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