The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

[tnlgreggo]

It really depends on the final flavor you are shooting for. If you are just wanting 50 /50 mix on the 2 favors, then go 2 to 1 and make the total mix the higher of the 2 (10%) . And go up from there as needed is where I would start.

 

[tnlgreggo]

It's when you want a lot of one flavor and just a touch of the other that can get trcky. How I do it is say I want 60% one flavor and 40% of the other. On paper I take that flavors mix and see how much 60% of the total would be on a btottle of just that flavor and add that. Then do 40% of a total mix of the other and add that. Then I have a 60/40 mix.

 

[Hoosier]

If you took a single flavoring juice that was mixed at 5% and mixed it in equal parts to a single flavoring juice that was mixed at 10% your final result would be a 7.5% total flavoring juice.

It helps to visualize it as mixing single flavoring juices at times...

 

[paddymx]

Ok, quick question. I see that all the flavors have flavor percentages that make them best suited for vaping. What if you are using 2-3 different flavors though??

Flavor 1 is rated at 5%
Flavor 2 is rated at 10%

Would you use 15%? Or less of each to equal around the middle like 8% total flavor.
How would one go about mixing the two flavors?
Apologize if this has already been covered and I missed it.

flavor 1 is 5% of the total volume
flavor 2 is 10% of the total volume for a total flavoring of 15%.

So if you are looking for an 8% flavoring, the combined %'s would total 8% of the total volume. 6% 0f #1, 2% 0f #2, 4% of #1 and 4% of #2, etc.

You need to find the % of each flavor ( of total volume ) that tastes right then combine from there. don't get wrapped up in the total % to much. Each flavor has its own % for tasting right to you.

You of course could ballpark it thinking, say, you want a chocolate coffee. So then you might have 10% chocolate ( if thats where you like it ) and 5% coffee ( if thats where you like it ) thinking the chocolate would be dominant. But you never know, flavors react to each other in funny ways.

EDIT:
But if you are talking premixed flavors, thats another story. 60% Happy Harry's "555" and 40% Sweet Mary's "Jungle Mist". But thats not what we're talking about here.

 

[Rin13]

RY4 regular and double have different notes to them. Not sure why it's called double because honestly, I don't think they taste anything alike. I will say that I have both and like both. Differences, to me, are that RY4 I can vape immediately, while RY4 I don't like until it steeps for at least a week. Also, ry4 double is sweeter to me and has more dimension it its flavor. The stuff is cheap, I would get both and see for yourself. I've already repurchased both flavors. Wizard Labs has the best price for the amount you get. (if it's in stock)

I may have missed it but what is the difference of RY4 1 and RY4 double....just double the flavor??

Also any opinions on how good it is?

 

[Rin13]

I have not but I want to. I like gingerbread and nutmeg in general... Just never bit the bullet and got any. Please report back if you try this.

Has anyone tried the Holiday Spice I didn't see it mentioned in the 39 pages I just read. Its supposed to be mostly nutmeg I don't think this would be a good stand alone flavor, but should add some good undertones. I do have some coming.

 

[michaelsil1]

I have not but I want to. I like gingerbread and nutmeg in general... Just never bit the bullet and got any. Please report back if you try this.

I will definitely get around to the holiday spice the problem I'm having right now is I ordered so many flavors that I don't know what I want to try first. I think I'm going to jump in the deep end and try and make some Mango Pudding.

 

[Rin13]

I feel you. I have flavors I bought weeks ago and have yet to use them. Yet, I'm looking at more flavorings to buy. -__-

 

[440BB]

It seems a flavoring looks interesting, then there's a sale, then it sits around waiting while you enjoy something else. The peace of mind knowing you could whip it up whenever you want is pretty good though!

 

[BikerBob]

Ok, quick question. I see that all the flavors have flavor percentages that make them best suited for vaping. What if you are using 2-3 different flavors though??

Flavor 1 is rated at 5%
Flavor 2 is rated at 10%

Would you use 15%? Or less of each to equal around the middle like 8% total flavor.
How would one go about mixing the two flavors?

Apologize if this has already been covered and I missed it.

Everyone has their own methods...what I might do is mix up a bottle of flavor 1 (10ml @5%), and another bottle of flavor 2 (10ml @10%). Make sure each doesn't seem too overpowering. Then try a smaller sample using each of these pre-mixed flavors. 1/2 ml of flavor 1 blended + 1/2 ml of flavor 2 blended = 2.5% flavor 1, 5% flavor 2. Adjust next batch (experiment) according to taste.

Most times, one of the flavors will overpower the other, so I will wind up with a 'main' flavor nearly at the recommended percentage, and an 'accent' flavor quite a bit less.

 

[crxess]

Thank you for this thread. I read all the way through in one sitting and found much good information.

The #1 answer was to my coffee failures - Butter Taste - I now know NOT to use sweet cream in coffee mixes.

Now if I can just figure out a simple good - coffee/cream/sugar mix

 

[michaelsil1]

It looks like I ordered a lot more than I thought from The Perfumer's Apprentice.


BTW

I just made my first eJuice and I can see why it needs to steep for a couple of weeks.

 

[mayhue1]

Has anyone tried Marzipon? I ordered it, thinking it was something else. Now what do I do with it?

 

[tdtyler]

Thank you for this thread. I read all the way through in one sitting and found much good information.

The #1 answer was to my coffee failures - Butter Taste - I now know NOT to use sweet cream in coffee mixes.

Now if I can just figure out a simple good - coffee/cream/sugar mix

Oh, man... Me, too. Sweet cream=fake butter taste. It doesn't seem to matter the amount.

Thanks for your post. I'm not alone after all.

 

[michaelsil1]

Oh, man... Me, too. Sweet cream=fake butter taste. It doesn't seem to matter the amount.

Thanks for your post. I'm not alone after all.

You whipped your cream to long.

 

[glassmanoak]

Bumping the list forward
In general, I find the upper percentages to be much too high

Absinthe: 10%
Almond Amaretto: 5-10%, 5/5
Apple: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Banana Cream 10%-15%
Banana Nut Bread: 5-7% (Great for mixing)
Bavarian Cream 5%-15%
Belgium Waffle 8-!2% 4/5
Bittersweet (Choc): 10-15%, 4/5
Black Cherry: 5-15%, 5/5
Black Honey Tobacco: 3-5%
Blackberry: 6%
Black Tea 12 % 3/5 needs a little steeping
Blueberry: 15%
Blueberry Extra: 6/5 10-13%
Brown Sugar 15-20%
Bubblegum: 10%>
Butterscotch: 12%
Caramel: 10-15%, 5/5
Caramel Candy: 15-20%, 5/5
Caramel Cappuccino: 1 drop in 10ml base 4/5
Chai Tea: 10% 5/5 Very Unique, a must try
Cheesecake: 5-15%, 2/5
Cherry Blossom; 15%
Chocolate: 10-15%, 5/5
Chocolate Mint: 10% (more chocolate than mint)
Cinnamon Red Hots: 5-10%, 5/5
Cinnamon Sugar Cookie: 5%-15%
Coconut Extra: ~10%, 5/5
Cotton Candy: 10-20%, 5/5
DK Tab 555: 2%-5%
Dragon Fruit: 5-12%
Double Chocolate (Clear) 10-12% 4/5
Dulce de Leche: <10%> - overpowering at 20% - good for combining
French Vanilla: 10% (For me: Gets chemical/perfume tones over 5%)
Graham Cracker: 10-15%, 5/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Grape: 12%
Green Apple: 12%
Hazelnut 16% 5/5
Hazelnut Praline: 5%, 2/5
Honeysuckle: 10- 15% - very good but FYI will crack a tank
Horchata: 5%, 5/5
Irish Cream: 10 - 12%
Juicy Peach 5%- 17%
Key Lime Pie 12%
Kona Coffee: 1drop/10ml, 4/5
Lemon/Lime 5% 4/5
Licorice 5/5 10% needs a few weeks to steep
Lime (oil-based): 1-5%, 4/5
Lychee: 5-7%
M-type Tobacco- 1% for starters... It requires a loooong steep!
Malted Milk: 5% (best mixed with other others)
Mango: 13%
Marachino Cherry: 5%, 4/5
Milk Chocolate: 20%, 4/5
Mint Candy: 12%, 4.5/5
Mt. Dew 10%-20%
Orange Cream: 5-10% 5/5 (To note, I am using all vg. So, I use it at higher %'s)
Papaya: 10% 5-5 (Very Fragrant)
Peach (not juicy) 12-15%
Peanut Butter: 10-15%, 5/5
Pear: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Peppermint: 15%
Pie Crust 12% 2/5
Pineapple: 15% 4.5/5 ( authentic flavor, I used 5% EM to sweeten)
Pizza: ~5%, 5/5
Plum: 5-10%, 4/5
Pomegranate: 7.5%-14%
Popcorn: 13%-15%
Raisin: 1-3% (Powerful)
Raspberry: 10%
Red Bull: 10%
RY4 Double- 15%
RY4 Asian: 10-15%
Smooth 2 drops per 5 ml
Spearmint: <5% Very strong start small
Strawberry: 3%-15%
Strawberry Kiwi 20% 1/5
Strawberries & Cream: 10-12% (good on its own, better with 3-5% EM)
Sweet Cream: 5-10%, 4/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Sweet Tart: 10%, 5/5 - Tastes more like Smarties
Tangerine (oil-based): 1-5%, 5/5
Tiramisu-- 8%-15% Over 15% tastes like burned coffee
Tobacco Blend Alcohol: 2.5%
Toasted Marshmallow: 10-15%
Toasted Almond: 15%
Tobbaco Absolute (TA): <1%
Tutti Frutti: 10-15%, 4.5/5 (closer to 15% the more VG I use)
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream: 4-8%, 4/5 (excellent mixer)
Vanilla Bourbon: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Vanilla Cupcake: 20%
Vanilla Swirl: 10%
Violet Candy: 10 - 12% (one of my favorite vapes)
Waffle: 20%, 5/5
Watermelon: 15% 4/5
Whipped Cream 14% 3/5
White Chocolate: 10% (note: mine had sugar as ingredient)
Wintergreen: 20%, 5/5
PA Sucralose Sweetener: 2%+, 4.5/5

 

[tdtyler]

Just read through all 40 pages and subscribed .... great thread!! here are a couple of my mixes:
Cranapple
Cranberry: 13%
apple : 4%
em : 1%
Nice light vape .... easy to chain vape


Mango/Watermelon
Mango :12%
Watermelon :3%
Tasty, the watermelon comes into play in the exhale ...sweet enough on it own.

MT Pockets,

I made the Cranapple recipe and it's fabulous! Thanks for posting it.

 

[ForeverTwoWheels]

Just finished reading, great thread lots of information. Subscribed!
Ordered my first flavors last weekend, very anxious to start mixing my own flavors. Will still pick up a hyped up flavor occasionally when I need hardware. Out of the list below what would be a good shake and vape flavor to start with while I let a few steep.

Black Honey Tobacco
RY4 Double
DK Tobacco
Tobacco Absolute (Diluted 50%)
Smooth
Pecan
Hazelnut
Raspberry
Peach (Juicy)
Black Cherry
Orange Cream
Mt Dew
Horchata
Sweet Tarts
Cotton Candy (Circus)
Caramel Candy
Bavarian Cream
Sweet Cream
French Vanilla
Honey
Brown Sugar
Sweetener

 

[tdtyler]

Bumping the list forward
In general, I find the upper percentages to be much too high

Yes! After banging around for nearly 5 weeks with multiple failures, the percentages are very high.

Cappuccino isn't on the list yet. I just made another disaster with Cappuccino at 8% and it's ridiculous nasty. I'll try again at 4% and come back with results. The Cappuccino at 8% is total smoke flavor - or burned something...

 

[Fenris4024]

I've noticed almost all the Coffee-esque flavors do better at lower percentages... but, that's my tastebud's opinions...I tend to like the coffee vapes, but using them at the percentages given as a baseline seemed a bit too high to me as well. Good luck with the lower percentage Capp!

Heck, even some of the tobacco percentages seem a bit strong for me, but I have a chef's pallete (which helps, since I am a sous chef ) I'm still trying to dial in on the D-RY4 percentage.

I've had decent luck at a meager 5% on the DRY4, but its lacking something.
As always, YMMV.