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Was wondering since I ordered Orange (Sweet) from TFA.

They posted that what they get is from Liberty Naturals (Orange Sweet FCC Florida - No.58). I found it on the Liberty Naturals website under essential oils. Is the TFA flavoring exactly the same as the essential oil gotten from Liberty or is it prepared/diluted in some way?
Not sure Cliffy. Haven't tried Liberty. TFA, though, is very good at responding to emails and phone calls. G'Luck! :toast:
 

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Ok, we are officially 1 week into the milkshake marathon, please continue to share your recipes, we've seen a lot from New and old posters and this collaboration has been fun...I am guessing we'll see more popping up over the weekend as time allows mixing, don't forget to share them here ...even though I'm working, I plan on doing some trials so I can post my results this week...I am debating dropping koolada all together too, I just am not fond of that cool note in my vape, might be better for me in summer but...feeling "meh" about it this moment in time.
 

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Their prices and shipping both seem fair. I placed orders with them and Wizard late last night. They're in NC and Wizard is in FL. I'm in GA. Let the race begin!

Going off my experience's of ordering from both,i'd say it's a good bet that bull city will get there faster.I'm not in GA. so it could be different,but my bull city orders always show up faster,which they almost always ship my stuff out the same day,and wizard usually ships the day after i place the order.Either way,can't go wrong with either of them though.I tend to use bull city a bit more though,just because they have more flavor vendors to choose from,i've been experimenting with the different brands so it makes it easier to get them all at 1 place.Next week i'll be back at a tfa direct order though,i'm having 4oz. withdrawal haha.
 

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Ok, we are officially 1 week into the milkshake marathon, please continue to share your recipes, we've seen a lot from New and old posters and this collaboration has been fun...I am guessing we'll see more popping up over the weekend as time allows mixing, don't forget to share them here ...even though I'm working, I plan on doing some trials so I can post my results this week...I am debating dropping koolada all together too, I just am not fond of that cool note in my vape, might be better for me in summer but...feeling "meh" about it this moment in time.

Here is where I'm at so far. Its a failure as far as where I'm wanting it to be but its a success as far as its not a bad vape as is. Well maybe not bad for my personal tastes minus the Koolada :facepalm:.

Caramel 8%
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream 5%
Vanilla Swirl 5%
Dulce de Leche 3%
Malted Milk 2%
Sweetener 2%
Sweet Cream 2%
Mocha 2%
Koolada 1%
 

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Ok, not the one I was thinking of. I'm in the Lab now, so I'll find the recipe that may offer the clues to solve the Blueberry Muffin problem. Either Cherries Jubilee or Dragon's Blood both use Vanilla Cupcake. The Jubilee:

Cherries Jubilee

Cherry - 2%
Cotton Candy - 6%
Vanilla Cupcake - 4%
Bavarian Cream - 4%
Jamaican Rum - 4%

Trying to translate this to a blueberry muffin, I would try the following:

Blueberry Extra - 4%
Blueberry Candy - 3%
Vanilla Cupcake -5%
Bavarian Cream -4%
Cotton Candy - 4%
Cinnamon Danish - 1%
Cinnamon Sugar Cookie - 1%
Acetyl Pyrazine - 1%

Disclaimer: I have not made this recipe! This is a suggested starting point as requested by OP. Starting here, I would adjust to taste with 100DT's until it was locked in! :D

I would also try some non-TFA flavorings as well. Sorry! Try TFA Banana Nut Bread, LA Cream Cheese Icing, DIY Flavor Shack Blueberry Muffin, TFA Cinnamon Sugar Cookie, and Capellas Blueberry Cinnamon Crumble. If I had all these flavors, I would try something like a 20% mix of Blueberry Muffin, Sweetener, Blueberry CinCrumble, Blueberry Extra, and possibly Blueberry Candy. I would caution you to check out the combination of Blueberry Extra and Blueberry Candy carefully. These blends often work, but not always, so check it out. Okay, that's my two cents. :toast:

:2cool: :vapor:

Just a thought...when I was working with blueberry it was LA and I found 4-6% blackberry really brought out the blueberry like nothing else. Worth a shot.
 

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Going off my experience's of ordering from both,i'd say it's a good bet that bull city will get there faster.I'm not in GA. so it could be different,but my bull city orders always show up faster,which they almost always ship my stuff out the same day,and wizard usually ships the day after i place the order.Either way,can't go wrong with either of them though.I tend to use bull city a bit more though,just because they have more flavor vendors to choose from,i've been experimenting with the different brands so it makes it easier to get them all at 1 place.Next week i'll be back at a tfa direct order though,i'm having 4oz. withdrawal haha.

Yep, Wizard always ships next day for me. Happened this time too; order shipped today. Bull City shipped yesterday. Looks like I will have them both Monday, along with another PT2. Monday will be a great vapemail day!
 

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I placed an order for some of the "basic flavorings" as suggested from Bill's blog page. Some I had, and just filled in the blanks. I totally forgot to order cotton candy. I already have TFA diluted EM that I rarely ever used... On the TFA website it says this about cotton candy, "This is made from ethyl maltol, diluted to 10% in PG"...

Is the diluted EM I have an equal to cotton candy? I know I have seen this debated before on here or other threads, just need some advise on if this is equal to cotton candy or not. Also, if it is equal to cotton candy, at what percentages. Or are they 1 to 1 equals. Hope this make sense.:unsure:
 

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Ok so I am out of my cinnamon danish to make bills recipe:( so I thinking of cinnamon roll any ideas on how to make it with the icing taste?
Just taking a stab at it, but if you have any cream cheese icing from loranns, maybe try that @1% and go up if needed.
 

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No lab worked today. I did have to hit the shop to fix a Smokerstore Eye that got bent, and threads trashed. Turns out the old dapping gear and forming blocks did come in handy once again, and got it back together. Not much of a metal worker, but do enjoy my woodworking. I did a lot of tuning up of the 1911 about 25 years ago, so I still have a lot of metal working tools for basic stuff. I want to start making some vaping gear boxes over the next year. I have specific needs, and I'm really going to have to make what I want. Hopefully, one month soon, I can share some home mades with you. I hope to get back to milkshakes tomorrow. I have some ideas. Good night all!
 

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Do the bulk prices fluctuate? I'm thinking about getting all my flavors in 4oz bottles..but the random $10/4oz, when a lot are the same price or just a little more than the ounce cost, raises this question. .

Should I just go ahead and order bulk with the higher priced flavorings? I'm kinda thinking they might drop, but then again, these are mostly all flavors that are in constant demand..I dunno.. figured I should ask, before I split an order with friends.
 

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Do the bulk prices fluctuate? I'm thinking about getting all my flavors in 4oz bottles..but the random $10/4oz, when a lot are the same price or just a little more than the ounce cost, raises this question. .

Should I just go ahead and order bulk with the higher priced flavorings? I'm kinda thinking they might drop, but then again, these are mostly all flavors that are in constant demand..I dunno.. figured I should ask, before I split an order with friends.

The bulk is the discounted pricing. I've never seen them come down, except to buy more. I purchase virtually everything in 4 oz and 16 oz bottles.
 

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Do the bulk prices fluctuate? I'm thinking about getting all my flavors in 4oz bottles..but the random $10/4oz, when a lot are the same price or just a little more than the ounce cost, raises this question. .

Should I just go ahead and order bulk with the higher priced flavorings? I'm kinda thinking they might drop, but then again, these are mostly all flavors that are in constant demand..I dunno.. figured I should ask, before I split an order with friends.

I just assumed certain flavors are more expensive to produce. Raspberry vs Rasberry (Sweet), for example, for 5.00 vs 9.00 (or 10, I forget) for the 4oz bottles. I remember some of the Vanillas (custard and French cream for example) are on the more expensive end. I think their 1oz counterparts are also relatively expensive.
 
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