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readeuler

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Lucky You! vape Apothecary shipping is more than the base carrier cost, which is dirt cheap! :toast:

About the recipe uploading, I kid, Bill, I kid :D

I just thought it was a pretty neat tool. And I am excited for the Bulk Apothecary, I might give them a call first before I walk in expecting to buy a gallon of VG. Too bad I didn't see any dropper tops on their site, or I could see walking out with a bunch of 60ml bottles, too.
 

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Yah this thread is amazing for people starting out. I had a little bit of a rough start, trying to run before I was walking, making my own recipes. So I made up some pre-written recipes and tweaked them to my liking, and now in the last week or so I have gone from maybe 1 ADV up to about 4 now (1 from MasteroftheVape, 2 from Bill, 1 my own) that I have been making bigger batches of. Gives me plenty of variety for my regular vaping, and then I get to play around each night and try and come up with something else. Excited to have some more glass dropper bottles coming soon so I can mix up my Strawberry Banana again, almost had the flavor right on it, but it was eating through my bottles and syringes I think so taste started to go plasticy.
 

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....I feel like I am at an impasse here. How do you make juice if you can't taste it?....

I find when making juices and tasting them right after mix that the strength of some of the concentrates will kind of overwhelm my sense of taste. Some, in fact, will affect my tongue in a way I can feel. This is likely due to the fact that I was tasting new mixes the same as I would vape any other liquid. So I changed the way I taste liquids by building higher ohm drippers just for tasting. These I'll run at lower wattage (9-15 typically) with restricted air flow. It seems to me that the more air I draw the less flavor I get. And I also won't take a huge tug either. A 3 second pull and slow exhale.

I hope your experience improves!
 

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I find when making juices and tasting them right after mix that the strength of some of the concentrates will kind of overwhelm my sense of taste. Some, in fact, will affect my tongue in a way I can feel. This is likely due to the fact that I was tasting new mixes the same as I would vape any other liquid. So I changed the way I taste liquids by building higher ohm drippers just for tasting. These I'll run at lower wattage (9-15 typically) with restricted air flow. It seems to me that the more air I draw the less flavor I get. And I also won't take a huge tug either. A 3 second pull and slow exhale.

I hope your experience improves!
I always let mine "steep" in a bowl of hot water til it gets room temp twice before even thinking about trying em.. The flavorings almost always needs to "chill out" a bit..

That reminds me gotta go check on my grape and watermelon bazookas now! :)
 

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Getting ready to place another order with TFA. I need to get some chocolates. I wondered if I could ask some advice. Do you folks recommend Double Chocolate Clear or Double Chocolate Dark in your recipes? I have read that dark juices tend to cause coils to fail sooner than light juices, so I was inclined to get the Clear version. I did a search in this thread and in the forum, but didn't find much info on the dark vs clear.

I am also ordering the regular Chocolate Flavor, Fudge Brownie Flavor, and Milk Chocolate Flavor. I am getting ready to make some of Bill's chocolate recipes. I already have the other ingredients I need.

Thanks.
 

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Getting ready to place another order with TFA. I need to get some chocolates. I wondered if I could ask some advice. Do you folks recommend Double Chocolate Clear or Double Chocolate Dark in your recipes? I have read that dark juices tend to cause coils to fail sooner than light juices, so I was inclined to get the Clear version. I did a search in this thread and in the forum, but didn't find much info on the dark vs clear.

I am also ordering the regular Chocolate Flavor, Fudge Brownie Flavor, and Milk Chocolate Flavor. I am getting ready to make some of Bill's chocolate recipes. I already have the other ingredients I need.

Thanks.

I prefer the clear chocolate myself. I find it easier on the coil/wick and visually it's easier to work with (I can see the graduations on my syringes better). Don't forget bittersweet chocolate. Setting aside the custard issue, I have found I cannot reach some chocolate flavorings without it. More like actual cacao flavoring (bitter, less sweet), it is useful in building a chocolate like you would use in the cooking world, i.e., adding butter, cream, sweetener, etc. to make a good dark chocolate. I will often mix double clear, bittersweet and milk chocolate in the same mix, to achieve a specific flavoring. Chocolates can be tough until you realize you will be mixing about six to eight flavorings to the mix to get the chocolate base just right, and having more flavorings allows for greater control and adjustment, expanding the flavor possibilities. For example, oreo cookies is difficult, without the bittersweet flavoring in the mix. :2c:

Of all the TFA chocolates, only the fudge brownie is good as a single, stand-alone flavoring, imho. However, by keeping the chocolates as specific flavoring bases and adding the other half dozen or so flavorings/ingredients, almost any chocolate is within reach with the TFA base chocolates. I very much prefer that greater flexibility as it creates greater potential and a wider flavor range.

At first, chocolates can seem daunting. But by adding the supporting flavorings, particularly watching the ratio of double chocolate to milk chocolate, you can get to almost any flavoring you are targeting. Really fun to play with, and perfect for 100DT experiments. :toast: :D

:2cool: :vapor:
 

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In case you didn't hear yet, they just lowered the 15ml prices and discontinued 1oz sizes.

Good news if you want to try something new without spending much money, bad news if you relied on 1oz sizes.

"They" as in the main site. All but 6 flavors have dropped to $3.25 USD for 15ml.

Hmm. They're more competitive with WL and their $1.49 8ml flavors. Still a little higher, but no fear of "out of stock."

Kind of a bummer about the 1oz. There are a few 'expensive' flavors (a few vanillas and fruits come to mind, even though $10 really isn't bad) that I'd have preferred to get 1oz instead, but I'm nonsensically cheap sometimes. This is probably better for my wallet in the long run, and better for trying new flavors from TFA directly :D
 

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Hmm. They're more competitive with WL and their $1.49 8ml flavors. Still a little higher, but no fear of "out of stock."

Kind of a bummer about the 1oz. There are a few 'expensive' flavors (a few vanillas and fruits come to mind, even though $10 really isn't bad) that I'd have preferred to get 1oz instead, but I'm nonsensically cheap sometimes. This is probably better for my wallet in the long run, and better for trying new flavors from TFA directly :D

The bulk prices on the main site are really good, but if you don't want to commit to 4oz of a certain flavor it might not be a good idea haha
 

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All my flavors are 4-16 Oz. It seems to be easier, cheaper and cost effective. I ordered a lot of stuff and now I'm creating 100 drop recipes, but I must still do about 30 single flavor percentage tests. I'm using bills percentage table sheet with the wonderful notes section for each flavor percentage. I'm grateful I learned to put a few drops of unflavored vape it then I can use the next flavor
 

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Getting ready to place another order with TFA. I need to get some chocolates. I wondered if I could ask some advice. Do you folks recommend Double Chocolate Clear or Double Chocolate Dark in your recipes? I have read that dark juices tend to cause coils to fail sooner than light juices, so I was inclined to get the Clear version. I did a search in this thread and in the forum, but didn't find much info on the dark vs clear.

I am also ordering the regular Chocolate Flavor, Fudge Brownie Flavor, and Milk Chocolate Flavor. I am getting ready to make some of Bill's chocolate recipes. I already have the other ingredients I need.

Thanks.

The double dark choc is really good but yes it will clog up your atty's fast
 

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I prefer the clear chocolate myself. I find it easier on the coil/wick and visually it's easier to work with (I can see the graduations on my syringes better). Don't forget bittersweet chocolate. Setting aside the custard issue, I have found I cannot reach some chocolate flavorings without it. More like actual cacao flavoring (bitter, less sweet), it is useful in building a chocolate like you would use in the cooking world, i.e., adding butter, cream, sweetener, etc. to make a good dark chocolate. I will often mix double clear, bittersweet and milk chocolate in the same mix, to achieve a specific flavoring. Chocolates can be tough until you realize you will be mixing about six to eight flavorings to the mix to get the chocolate base just right, and having more flavorings allows for greater control and adjustment, expanding the flavor possibilities. For example, oreo cookies is difficult, without the bittersweet flavoring in the mix. :2c:

Of all the TFA chocolates, only the fudge brownie is good as a single, stand-alone flavoring, imho. However, by keeping the chocolates as specific flavoring bases and adding the other half dozen or so flavorings/ingredients, almost any chocolate is within reach with the TFA base chocolates. I very much prefer that greater flexibility as it creates greater potential and a wider flavor range.

At first, chocolates can seem daunting. But by adding the supporting flavorings, particularly watching the ratio of double chocolate to milk chocolate, you can get to almost any flavoring you are targeting. Really fun to play with, and perfect for 100DT experiments. :toast: :D

:2cool: :vapor:


I just put some bittersweet chocolate in my order along with the Double Chocolate (Clear). I also ordered LA's CCI. :)

I've gone through many of your recipes and I have many of the ingredients here already and I'm about to order the others I'll need to make many of the recipes.

I'm not a fan of tobacco flavors, so I probably won't make those, but I'll make many of the others.

I'm going to try making them according to your recipes and then I'll start tinkering a little with some ingredients to see how they affect the flavors. Then maybe I'll be brave enough to develop some of my own recipes.

Thanks again for your help.
 

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So I've revisited the Melona recipe I did awhile ago (Melon) because it was good but not equivalent to one of my favorite desserts. This one is much better...

10% honeydew
7% vanilla bean ice cream (haven't tried with the gelato yet)
3% vanilla swirl
2% em/cotton candy

This is very very nice. It almost has too much ice cream flavor but I'm betting that it mellows a bit after 24-48 hours.

I'm betting that this works with the other fruit flavors that Melona makes: strawberry (strawberry and strawberry ripe) and banana (banana ripe) in strengths appropriate to the flavor.

I'm also thinking that a blueberry extra version might be very niceas well.

This one is kind of sweet, you might not even need the em...depends on your sweet tooth.

I spent a long time looking for my 4 ounce bottle of VBIC only to realize that I only had 1oz of it. I'm going to need more but my next 30ml will be done with vanilla bean gelato too see which I prefer...
 
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Hmm. They're more competitive with WL and their $1.49 8ml flavors. Still a little higher, but no fear of "out of stock."

Kind of a bummer about the 1oz. There are a few 'expensive' flavors (a few vanillas and fruits come to mind, even though $10 really isn't bad) that I'd have preferred to get 1oz instead, but I'm nonsensically cheap sometimes. This is probably better for my wallet in the long run, and better for trying new flavors from TFA directly :D

I don't know if BCV carries TFA's full line, but I think they do carry the 120ml size. They're often out of stock, but they usually get restocked pretty quickly.

I need a place to get bigger bottles of INW's shisha strawberry, without having to buy 100ml from inawera.com. :facepalm:

Andria
 

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In case you didn't hear yet, they just lowered the 15ml prices and discontinued 1oz sizes.

Good news if you want to try something new without spending much money, bad news if you relied on 1oz sizes.

"They" as in the main site. All but 6 flavors have dropped to $3.25 USD for 15ml.

Hmm, that's a shame. They must have had a good reason to do that. 30ml seemed like a good size of a flavor to get for something I'll make semi-often, but not often enough that I have to worry about whether a 4oz bottle would go bad before I used it all. I'm probably overthinking this a bit.
 

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VirtualBox man! I have a virtual WinXP machine that runs great on my Mac.. I use it for some outdated software that controls/edits some of my MIDI synthesizers among other things, and the ejuice calc works great..

True, true. This may prove to be one of those situations where Windows is just necessary. The idea of having a local dir with my recipes in it is pretty smart, the more I think about it. Will check it out. I have a couple Windows VM's too.
 

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received my chocolates. going to give your recipe a try this evening! are you still enjoying it?
Yep! I've been varying percentages slightly...latest is:

Sweet Cream 10%
Vanilla Swirl 4%
Double Chocolate 6%
Milk Chocolate 6%
Sweetener 5%

Vaping it right now as a matter of fact ;) Of course, like making a good barbeque sauce, adjust to YOUR taste and enjoy! :vapor:
 
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