The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

[JimScotty0]

I've thought abought mixing by weight, but to be accurate, I would need to weigh and measure all my individual ingredients in order to be accurate going forward. Besides being ....-retentive, I am horribly lazy, so I do see that happening.
I do have a digital scale like you describe so maybe I will experiment. Thanks for chiming in.

I use a scale to do all my mixing and I wouldn't have it any other way. Your scale should be to 2 decimal places to get it accurate enough. I am finding that an average flavor is about 1.045 grams per ml on average but using the JuiceCalicator I have a weight per ml for each item. I mix in a flask and after each ingredient I zero out the scale so you don't need any running tally. Sometimes I mix directly into the juice bottle.

 

[satchvai]

Same here, but I have to say, I'm not terribly impressed with the cinnamon danish DX -- it's got a lot of acetyl pyrazine in it, which kinda overpowers any other flavor. I did get some Cinnamon Spice to try to improve it, but haven't tried that yet. The hazelnut DX may be just slightly better than Capella's hazelnut v2, a bit more subtle taste.

Andria

Same here, but I have to say, I'm not terribly impressed with the cinnamon danish DX -- it's got a lot of acetyl pyrazine in it, which kinda overpowers any other flavor. I did get some Cinnamon Spice to try to improve it, but haven't tried that yet. The hazelnut DX may be just slightly better than Capella's hazelnut v2, a bit more subtle taste.

Andria

I can't do anything with DX Cinnamon Danish, thinking of throwing out the 4oz Bottle I have because of the overwhelming butyric acid note in it. I've had good luck with all the other DX flavorings but that one. DX Banana Cream has the same type of smell but doesn't come through in the vape and after a couple weeks it dies down. Not so with the CD.

 

[cliffy15]

Mochi flavor - suggestions? (I swear I can't figure out how to put a topic on the post...)

I'm trying to replicate a mochi - if you're unfamiliar with this, it's made with pounded rice flour, water, and some sweetener - flavor with only TFA flavors. I'm wondering if the rice crunchies flavor will get me there with some other TFA additives. Do you think I need some other brand of flavor? The actual "cereal" component should be there, but very light. I don't know of any other flour-y, bread-y tastes other than cereal. Maybe horchatta would be good if it didn't have cinnamon in it.

I'm hoping the rice crunchies are only a bit starchy, light, and sweet. I'd like to eventually use this as a base kind of like the vanilla bean gelato/sweet cream/sweetener that I use to make honeydew melona (along with strawberry and banana variants).

Mochi is a great ethnic/local flavor here with so many variations. Would be great with taro, peanut butter, chocolate, many fruits, etc.

I'll have to order and experiment (unless someone has other suggestions). I'm thinking the flavor ratios would be something along the lines of:

10% primary flavor (maybe strawberry to start ... I currently have a lot of that)
10% secondary flavor (the mochi base)

• 5% rice crunchies
• 2% vanilla swirl (or maybe some other light vanilla variant)
• 2-3% sweet cream (or maybe another very light variant)

2-3% sweetener
1-2% possibly a unique twist. Maybe a tiny bit of almond or hazelnut to go with.

edit: now that I think about it ... maybe frosted donut might work too? ugh.

 

[AndriaD]

I can't do anything with DX Cinnamon Danish, thinking of throwing out the 4oz Bottle I have because of the overwhelming butyric acid note in it. I've had good luck with all the other DX flavorings but that one. DX Banana Cream has the same type of smell but doesn't come through in the vape and after a couple weeks it dies down. Not so with the CD.

I don't think I have a terrible aversion to the butyric acid, I like the dx bavarian and vanilla swirl really well... but that dx cinnamon danish is so heavy with the acetyl pyrazine, I can't taste anything else in it. Certainly no cinnamon, which you'd think was a strong enough smell/taste to overpower nearly anything.

The only one I've tried that just totally icked me out was the malted milk... god that crap could gag a maggot. And I LOVE malted milk, but that flavor comes nowhere near it.

Andria

 

[Clark Kent]

IDK, I have not tried it but maybe the Pie crust, not sure of ratios. Maybe even a very small percentage of AP

 

[cliffy15]

The only one I've tried that just totally icked me out was the malted milk... god that crap could gag a maggot. And I LOVE malted milk, but that flavor comes nowhere near it.

Omg ... I love this phrase! I must make it a point to use "gag a maggot" at the office very soon.

 

[AndriaD]

Omg ... I love this phrase! I must make it a point to use "gag a maggot" at the office very soon.

ROFL!!! Pretty common down here in Dixie.

Andria

 

[satchvai]

Mochi flavor - suggestions? (I swear I can't figure out how to put a topic on the post...)

I'm trying to replicate a mochi - if you're unfamiliar with this, it's made with pounded rice flour, water, and some sweetener - flavor with only TFA flavors. I'm wondering if the rice crunchies flavor will get me there with some other TFA additives. Do you think I need some other brand of flavor? The actual "cereal" component should be there, but very light. I don't know of any other flour-y, bread-y tastes other than cereal. Maybe horchatta would be good if it didn't have cinnamon in it.

I'm hoping the rice crunchies are only a bit starchy, light, and sweet. I'd like to eventually use this as a base kind of like the vanilla bean gelato/sweet cream/sweetener that I use to make honeydew melona (along with strawberry and banana variants).

Mochi is a great ethnic/local flavor here with so many variations. Would be great with taro, peanut butter, chocolate, many fruits, etc.

I'll have to order and experiment (unless someone has other suggestions). I'm thinking the flavor ratios would be something along the lines of:

10% primary flavor (maybe strawberry to start ... I currently have a lot of that)
10% secondary flavor (the mochi base)

• 5% rice crunchies
• 2% vanilla swirl (or maybe some other light vanilla variant)
• 2-3% sweet cream (or maybe another very light variant)

2-3% sweetener
1-2% possibly a unique twist. Maybe a tiny bit of almond or hazelnut to go with.

edit: now that I think about it ... maybe frosted donut might work too? ugh.

Thinking you may want to look into Vanilla Cupcake or Frosted Donut. Something with a bakery note to it. Outside of TFA, maybe Flavor West Yellow Cake or Capella Cake Batter to get the dough part down. Rice crunchies is like the cereal and a different note altogether.

 

[AndriaD]

Thinking you may want to look into Vanilla Cupcake or Frosted Donut. Something with a bakery note to it. Outside of TFA, maybe Flavor West Yellow Cake or Capella Cake Batter to get the dough part down. Rice crunchies is like the cereal and a different note altogether.

OMG, that Capella cake batter is another just putrid-smelling one -- I had to keep it in its own little ziplock in the cabinet or I couldn't stand to open the cabinet! I finally tossed it, it was so godawful -- far, FAR beyond "gag a maggot" -- that one is well into "knock a buzzard off a [crap]wagon" territory!

Andria

For a pastry flavor -- maybe Inawera Biscuit? Apparently a Biscuit is europeanese for "cookie" -- but it's really REALLY strong; the 10% pre-mix I mentioned earlier is a really good idea.

 

[Clark Kent]

I was thinking fw and Cappella to but I think he said only TFA, If he wanted a rice drink though I think Rice crispies might give it that slight rice taste, to bad there was not somthing like horchata without cinnimon

 

[satchvai]

OMG, that Capella cake batter is another just putrid-smelling one -- I had to keep it in its own little ziplock in the cabinet or I couldn't stand to open the cabinet! I finally tossed it, it was so godawful -- far, FAR beyond "gag a maggot" -- that one is well into "knock a buzzard off a [crap]wagon" territory!

Andria

For a pastry flavor -- maybe Inawera Biscuit? Apparently a Biscuit is europeanese for "cookie" -- but it's really REALLY strong; the 10% pre-mix I mentioned earlier is a really good idea.

People either love or hate that stuff from what I can gather, lol. I love Inawera Biscuit, need to try Spicy Biscuit next. I've read good things about that too. Another one that is good for that note is Flavourart Cookie. But I know we are off the TFA topic now.

 

[Kenna]

ROFL!!! Pretty common down here in Dixie. [emoji38]

Andria

Haven't used that one in years! [emoji1]

 

[hittman]

I just got an order a week or so ago which included cinnamon Danish. I contemplated getting the DX version but am glad now that I didn't. I did get a DX peanut butter but haven't tried it yet.

 

[Ms.Sue]

I keep seeing blue raspberry being mentioned but I've been trying to google it but it does come up with anything in the UK. I've got blue raspberry cotton candy but it's made by Capella. Is the one I got the same one which keeps getting mentioned or is it something completely different?.

 

[dgarci]

hey guys, been a whiLe since I Last dropped by here... does anybody know if the tfa flavor list is updated? or where I can find it?
im talking about the excel file which had the list of available flavors along with recommendations as to what % to use on a single flavor mix?

sorry, its been a Long whiLe. XD

 

[hittman]

It's here https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lwfucwpfm1cxagj/AADTcC2CaNPhBvn5W1gn-hV1a?dl=0

I don't know how updated it is.

 

[hittman]

I keep seeing blue raspberry being mentioned but I've been trying to google it but it does come up with anything in the UK. I've got blue raspberry cotton candy but it's made by Capella. Is the one I got the same one which keeps getting mentioned or is it something completely different?.

Is this what you're looking for?

http://www.bullcityvapor.com/blue-raspberry-tfa/

 

[vapbamafaye]

Ok i need help and fast please. My old little laptop i was using crashed this morning it was running windows and i was able to use the ejuice me up caculator but now the only computer i have now that i can use in my lab is my google chrome and I can't put any caculators on it so i can't mix what can i do

 

[Gfdeputy2]

There are free Apps if you have a smartphone

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Ok i need help and fast please. My old little laptop i was using crashed this morning it was running windows and i was able to use the ejuice me up caculator but now the only computer i have now that i can use in my lab is my google chrome and I can't put any caculators on it so i can't mix what can i do

Use a web based one like this one.
http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp?r=1.5&id=1.588&ll=4.762