The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread
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I have never noticed a change in the flavors that I have, and there is no use by date on any of my bottles. I have not bought a pre-made juice, in over 2 years. Back then there was no shelf life label on any of the ones I was buying.
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I have gone through about 10ml of Bill's famous cheesecake so far and am really liking it. My lite strawberry cheesecake is getting lonely.
I was making a recipe that called for TFA coconut extra, I really don't like this flavor, but making it for someone that keeps asking for more. I know the difference of taste in the cocnut extra and coconut candy, but when I ordered a 4 oz bottle it came as just TFA Coconut, My question, has anybody used the regular coconut in place of coconut extra, and how do they compare in % or are they to different to compare. I know I should just do a single mix and find out but like I said I really do not care for the flavor.
I would think it would be a bit lighter than Extra, but their information on the site really don't help much. The Extra says "a nice all around Coconut Flavor" and the Coconut says " a light Coconut flavor best for blending with other flavor" I guess I will give It a try and if its to different just re-order the extra.
I have TFA Green Tea & Honeysuckle, what percentages have you guys found them to be moderate flavor and what percentage is it getting a bit too strong?
Thanks.
I only inquired because I'm just about to start diy and want to just stick with TFA to make things less confusing. Doesn't help when there is 3 different blueberry flavorings. Someone told me to get both blueberry and blueberry extra because one without the other is useless?
Also there is the blueberry wild....aye yi yi...
I don't have Green Tea, but with Honeysuckle I find it Quite Strong and have not went over 4% in any of my mixes.
When I chose the Blueberry it was merely to compliment my tobacco vape - the suggestion was Blueberry extra - so I haven't tried the others as I don't care for most fruity type vapes. I do notice in a lot of the fruity recipes, more than one type of flavoring is suggested. There is one (sorry I cant find it) that has 3 different strawberry flavors. I would say - figure out how much "fruit" flavors and then divide that between the fruits you want to use.
Say I want 10% fruit flavorings - it may go like this
5% Strawberry Ripe
3% Organic Strawberry - never used this one but for this example I have it here
2% Sweet Raspberry (this really makes strawberry "pop" - adds a bit more sweetness without overpowering the strawberry)
I do this all the time with Vanilla flavors. I have recipes that use 2 to 4 different "types" of vanillas.
Say I want 10% fruit flavorings - it may go like this
5% Strawberry Ripe
3% Organic Strawberry - never used this one but for this example I have it here
2% Sweet Raspberry (this really makes strawberry "pop" - adds a bit more sweetness without overpowering the strawberry)
I do this all the time with Vanilla flavors. I have recipes that use 2 to 4 different "types" of vanillas.
I bought all three blueberry flavors and haven't used any of them.
I can vouch for the Yellow Cake. Though not a TFA flavoring, I consider it a fundamental flavoring, and one of only two or three non-TFA flavorings that is essential. TFA Cupcake, though, also works well in combination with other flavorings.
Haven't posted a starting flavor list in quite a while. For the new member just getting started in DIY, I recommend the following flavorings as your starting point:
Basic Flavorings
Vanilla Swirl
Vanilla Custard
Vanilla Cupcake
Cinnamon Sugar Cookie
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream
Sweet Cream
Bavarian Cream
French Vanilla Cream
Dulce de Leche
Cotton Candy
Sweetener
Brown Sugar
Graham Cracker
Pie Crust
Marshmallow
Sweet and Tart
Butter
Cinnamon Danish
Caramel
Rum
Hazelnut
Peanut Butter
Koolada
Belgian Waffle
Whipped Cream
Fruits:
Lemon
Apple
Banana Cream
Bananas Foster
Blueberry
Juicy Peach
Pineapple
Coconut Extra
Strawberry
Strawberries and Cream
Raspberry
Non-TFA Flavoring Essentials:
Flavor West Yellow Cake
Inawera Strawberry
LorAnn Cream Cheese Icing
Chocolates (Optional)
FW Peanut Butter Cup
Milk Chocolate
Double Chocolate (Dark)
Bitter Chocolate
I can make 80% of my recipes with these ingredients. The ones I cannot make are one-offs with very specific flavorings like Mango Custard, Dragonfruit, Coffee Drinks, Key Lime and Pecan Pies, Pralines and Cream, Root Beers/Floats, Bubblegums, Specialty Candy Bars like Almond Joy, Tobaccos, Oreo's, etc. If you like any of those flavorings, then, by all means, add a 4 ounce bottle and enjoy! I love, for example, peanut butter cup, oreo's, Twinkies, Donuts, Lemonade, etc.
I've probably left out a few, and maybe even your favorites, but these are the ones that immediately come to mind for me. I have over 200 flavorings, though I rarely use more than about 30 of them these days. I've tried to reflect these preferences in my recipes, and the many recipes we see on this thread in the recommendations above. The immense variety of flavorings and possibilities is what makes DIY such an interesting hobby. We can literally make almost anything. Once you learn the basics, you'll be making recipes on paper, nailing them in only a time or two of 100DT's, understanding the construction of the combination flavorings, and the genre's they represent, etc. It's a blast, easy to learn, and while not abundantly intuitive at first, anyone can pick this DIY up just by making a few of the many great recipes on this thread from the many, many great members who share their efforts and wonderful juices. In time, sometimes immediately, you'll be making great juice of your own creation, mixing to a flavoring from scratch, and able to identify four or five ingredients in every mix just by smelling it, and vaping it. It's really amazing to smell a juice and instantly name five of the ingredients, but in time, you'll be able to do this. Just takes some time in the vape lab, is all! Best of luck!
You will use these ingredients in 99% of your mixes. Of course, there are many others, but if I were starting out, knowing what I now know, these are the first ones I would buy. Single ingredient mixes will only vary rarely work, perhaps only 5 - 10% of the time. We do need the creams, vanillas and sweeteners which not only add depth, richness and texture, but also act as primary flavor enhancers. They work wonders.
I am spamming this for my own reference for later..
I have have a question however.
Is there any make and vape recipes that I can try when I start making ejuice? I am researching right now and wanna buy things I will need instead of blindly going into things.. i was going to buy a kit but I see that might not be a good idea.. which is why I am here..
And to Bill.. you are an awesome guy helping people out like you have..
My only suggestion would be is to figure out what you like. As an example. I used to buy HHV Build Your Own Waffle - Blueberry Waffle with Extra Maple Syrup. Took me about 7 or 8 tries and around 5 different flavors but, I nailed it. A...lot of trial and error but, I stuck with it. Now, I make around 16 - 18 different eliquids that I, well, "share" with folks and they make "donations" to the cause.
Thanks Simple Red.. I will keep that in mind... i will be around for a while so...
I also want to point out I am reading this post backwards.. i already answered my question about being able to shake and vape..
Anyway other cool advice one can give would be awesome.. i am probably going to have about 150 to start this venture...
I also want to point out I am reading this post backwards.. i already answered my question about being able to shake and vape..
Anyway other cool advice one can give would be awesome.. i am probably going to have about 150 to start this venture...
That will get you well on your way,i started with just over $60,then bought more flavors a few at a time,so with your starting budget,that should take you a long way.Just remember to budget in some spare bottles and some syringes,and shop around,sometimes you can find better deals from different suppliers,so don't limit yourself to just one.
A question.. i saved bottles from covalvapes because they are glass.. is it better to use glass or plastic?
The only reason I ask is because I hear plastic sucks the flavor or of vape.. is that true?
I guess I am getting off topic.. sorry..
The only reason I ask is because I hear plastic sucks the flavor or of vape.. is that true?
I guess I am getting off topic.. sorry..
Not sure about the plastic sucking the flavor out,but i have had some juices in plastic start to take on a plastic taste,as well as the plastic retaining the smell of the juice that was in it.Saving the glass bottles was a smart move,i use glass 99% of the time,the only time i use plastic now is if it's a test batch that won't be around long.
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