I understand.....look at my last post I listed 2 places to find the reg banana flavoring which I also use as stated before.
Excellent , thank you . Thats what i was wondering about .
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Excellent , thank you . Thats what i was wondering about .
I understand.....look at my last post I listed 2 places to find the reg banana flavoring which I also use as stated before.
eta the flavor apprentice is TFA
I am color blind and those two links look like regular dark text to me lol, i didn't even notice till i put my mouse over them.
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Edit: I guess I hadn't refreshed when I responded. I see others directed you to it. I got mine at Nic. River. I a fan of their Banana Nut Bread. The Banana cream I can do better myself with the bare banana and my own cream combinations. Haven't tried the Foster as that isn't really a flavor I would have in my wheel house.
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I'm playing around with some TFA fruit and bakery flavors this week and haven't found the magic mix yet from estimates obtained from users on various sites.
Currently, I'm playing with a 10ml mix of FA Cookie at 2% with 2 drops each of Capella Caramel and TFA Vanilla Cupcake. It's the second day and I'm getting overpowering sweetness and a chemical taste. Estimates vary on how how long these need to steep and meld.
Although it's a mix of brands, there's TFA in there so I'm somewhat on topic. Right now, it's a mix that I could dilute to 10% and still get mild flavor. Obviously, those who recommended the above mix like their flavorings heavy!
Currently, I'm playing with a 10ml mix of FA Cookie at 2% with 2 drops each of Capella Caramel and TFA Vanilla Cupcake. It's the second day and I'm getting overpowering sweetness and a chemical taste. Estimates vary on how how long these need to steep and meld.
Although it's a mix of brands, there's TFA in there so I'm somewhat on topic. Right now, it's a mix that I could dilute to 10% and still get mild flavor. Obviously, those who recommended the above mix like their flavorings heavy!
I've never tried the FA cookie but that doesn't seem like very much flavoring at 2% and with just a couple drops of the other two.
I imagine you are already familiar with HeadInClounds FA flavor notes (which I find indispensable when using new-to-me FA flavors, but just in case you (or anyone else reading this) is not, HIC makes them available for free on his web site (see link):I'm playing around with some TFA fruit and bakery flavors this week and haven't found the magic mix yet from estimates obtained from users on various sites.
Currently, I'm playing with a 10ml mix of FA Cookie at 2% with 2 drops each of Capella Caramel and TFA Vanilla Cupcake. It's the second day and I'm getting overpowering sweetness and a chemical taste. Estimates vary on how how long these need to steep and meld.
Although it's a mix of brands, there's TFA in there so I'm somewhat on topic. Right now, it's a mix that I could dilute to 10% and still get mild flavor. Obviously, those who recommended the above mix like their flavorings heavy!
HIC's notes on FA Cookie:
"FA Cookie
Very versatile flavoring! Has no diketones, which sets it apart from most other vendors’ cookie flavorings. It’s a very neutral cookie base with no spices, vanilla, or other flavors to interfere with your additions. It can be used standalone (some like it that way), as a cookie base, or to add bakery effects to recipes. It adds rich, warm, baked flavor. If you're making a cookie recipe with bold flavors, start with about 2% Cookie. Add Anise, Almond, perhaps a little Marzipan for a very traditional, crunchy Italian cookie flavor. Or add your favorite nuts/fruits flavor to that for biscotti variations (Cherry-Almond or Lemon-Almond, for example). Try with two widely-contrasting flavors, like Citrus-Bilberry. Including Anise in biscotti adds an authentic Italian touch. For smooth, sweet, rich cookies, begin with 1-1.5% Cookie and 0.5% Vienna Cream, then add your flavors. For an even sweeter start, include a little Butterscotch; 0.25% Butterscotch will sweeten enough to stand up to bold flavor additions like Espresso, Hazelnut, Brandy, or strong spices. Also see the notes for FA Apple Pie regarding Cookie."
(Emphasis inserted by IDJoel)
I haven't used FA Cookie yet, so this is not from personal experience (though I do have it... <sigh>
), but I find HIC's recommendations pretty close for my palate (YMMV) in general. Based on that, and what you said you started with, I would consider diluting 25-50%, and maybe re-adding 1 to 2 drops each of you two accent flavors, and see if that is not any better. I also liked his suggestion of using the 0.5% FA Vienna Cream to create a richer "cookie."
Totally off topic, but I also follow HICs notes and recommendations. There are some 'super tasters' out there as well, those with highly refined senses of smell and taste. She's on a whole different planet. I
Over at that unmentionable site ..........
Chilly Sweet Leaf 1.12% total flavoring - by Jennifer Jarvis, but that's nothing compared to her Melon Blush recipe clocking in at a WHOPPING .43% total flavoring. Yeah, I've got that decimal in the right place. The 1st sub 1% recipe I have ever seen. I don't think I'd want to smell, taste, vape that clearly or accurately.
Over at that unmentionable site ..........
Chilly Sweet Leaf 1.12% total flavoring - by Jennifer Jarvis, but that's nothing compared to her Melon Blush recipe clocking in at a WHOPPING .43% total flavoring. Yeah, I've got that decimal in the right place. The 1st sub 1% recipe I have ever seen. I don't think I'd want to smell, taste, vape that clearly or accurately.
I imagine you are already familiar with HeadInClounds FA flavor notes (which I find indispensable when using new-to-me FA flavors, but just in case you (or anyone else reading this) is not, HIC makes them available for free on his web site (see link):
HIC's notes on FA Cookie:
"FA Cookie
Very versatile flavoring! Has no diketones, which sets it apart from most other vendors’ cookie flavorings. It’s a very neutral cookie base with no spices, vanilla, or other flavors to interfere with your additions. It can be used standalone (some like it that way), as a cookie base, or to add bakery effects to recipes. It adds rich, warm, baked flavor. If you're making a cookie recipe with bold flavors, start with about 2% Cookie. Add Anise, Almond, perhaps a little Marzipan for a very traditional, crunchy Italian cookie flavor. Or add your favorite nuts/fruits flavor to that for biscotti variations (Cherry-Almond or Lemon-Almond, for example). Try with two widely-contrasting flavors, like Citrus-Bilberry. Including Anise in biscotti adds an authentic Italian touch. For smooth, sweet, rich cookies, begin with 1-1.5% Cookie and 0.5% Vienna Cream, then add your flavors. For an even sweeter start, include a little Butterscotch; 0.25% Butterscotch will sweeten enough to stand up to bold flavor additions like Espresso, Hazelnut, Brandy, or strong spices. Also see the notes for FA Apple Pie regarding Cookie."
(Emphasis inserted by IDJoel)
I haven't used FA Cookie yet, so this is not from personal experience (though I do have it... <sigh>
I'm waiting a couple or three days to see how steeping progresses. Thanks for the info. Head in Clouds is a vaper's vaper when it comes to juice mixes and percentages. I have several of his blogs bookmarked for reference.
I got my latest order a few days ago and am trying some cap pink lemonade. It's definitely not a single flavor mix. I started out at 8% and ended up at 12% along with some em and sweet and tart.
Thanks. I'll have to add to my next order.
So,what did you think of the Rf strawberry lemonade?I made a sample of it up today,along with lemon cookie.Just curious how that sl came out,and if it needed any steep time.
I mixed the Strawberry Lemonade but only 4 days ago so I haven't tried it yet.
It smells good,so hopefully it's a good one.The lemon cookie doesn't smell very strong in the flavoring bottle,so hopefully it tastes good,that's the one i really want to be good.I mixed them both at 3.5%,so hopefully that gets them in the ballpark,my last sc flavors from them i made at 2% and they were very faint,so i bumped those up to 3.5% too so hopefully they turn out better this time.
I haven't mixed the lemon cookie yet. The ones I did mix I went with 2.5%. Guess I'd better try them to see if I should add more flavor. I mixed the Strawberry Lemonade,Boysenberry and Blueberry Lemonade Slushie. Think the last is going to be too sweet for me.
Wow! I mixed the SC Oatmeal Cookie, French Toast and Shortbread at 9%. I mixed them 3 weeks ago and just tried them the other day. All 3 are very faint. I must have done something wrong.
I hadn't seen the Blueberry lemonade slush,i'll have to grab that one in my next order,hopefully it will be better than the Osdiy blue rasberry slush.Everyone raves about that one,but i didn't like it much.
The only 1 i have of those is the oatmeal cookie,and i made it at 2%,and it was very faint there,so i just bumped it to 3.5% today.At 9% it could possibly be too much flavor causing it to fade,on the other hand,it could also be that they are not as concentrated as they say.On the vg flavors,i went as far as 20% and was barely getting anything from those either.
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