The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread
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so im crazy about TFA peanut butter. its the best thing out of the batch i got. 10% and vapable right away.
this morning i was enjoying my peanut butter vape and just when it was time to leave for work, dry hit, tank empty. doh! better go fill up before i leave... bottle empty ACK! so i went AD without my ADV! =D i vaped jamaican rum, which isnt terrible but not a very good rum if you ask me. when that ran out, i went with pineapple, which is great at 10%, very sweet.
so when i got home, the kids had stuff to do out of the house so i had the place to myself for a little while, time to get mixing. so now im set with pnut butter for a while longer, and while i was poking around in my stash i found my bottle of Banana Nut Bread, which was horrible perfumey when i made it at 10%, i took some of it and cut it to 5% and it was a little better... well this bottle of 10% has been steeping a week... i gave it a sniff and it smelled pretty good! so i took a chance and filled my tank, and i must say this stuff is pretty rockin now. maybe not the most authentic banana nut bread ever, but a very good vape.
this morning i was enjoying my peanut butter vape and just when it was time to leave for work, dry hit, tank empty. doh! better go fill up before i leave... bottle empty ACK! so i went AD without my ADV! =D i vaped jamaican rum, which isnt terrible but not a very good rum if you ask me. when that ran out, i went with pineapple, which is great at 10%, very sweet.
so when i got home, the kids had stuff to do out of the house so i had the place to myself for a little while, time to get mixing. so now im set with pnut butter for a while longer, and while i was poking around in my stash i found my bottle of Banana Nut Bread, which was horrible perfumey when i made it at 10%, i took some of it and cut it to 5% and it was a little better... well this bottle of 10% has been steeping a week... i gave it a sniff and it smelled pretty good! so i took a chance and filled my tank, and i must say this stuff is pretty rockin now. maybe not the most authentic banana nut bread ever, but a very good vape.
Which of the TFA vanilla flavors mix the best with fruit flavors to get that kind of fruit smoothie effect?
Challenging mixing issue!
10% TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream - mixed in 10ML
10% TFA Strawberry - mixed in 10ML
1 Drop Sweetener per 5ML in each - (so 4 drops total)
After 3 weeks of steeping - Mixed 3 parts Ice Cream to 1 part Strawberry. Made the most Delicious Strawberry Ice Cream. Vaped it all down without switching Flavors.(something I never do)
Rational thinking tells me this is 75/25 ratio with 2 drops sweetener per 10ML
Made a Batch of Strawberry Ice Cream to replicate Mixed Flavor................ Fail
After even 3 weeks of Steeping, there is a distinctive Strawberry Bite and the Ice Cream is not as smooth at all. Like the flavors refuse to play together. (Sharp edges)
Any explanations or have I found something new to have to deal with in Mixology?
I really, really liked the first combination.
10% TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream - mixed in 10ML
10% TFA Strawberry - mixed in 10ML
1 Drop Sweetener per 5ML in each - (so 4 drops total)
After 3 weeks of steeping - Mixed 3 parts Ice Cream to 1 part Strawberry. Made the most Delicious Strawberry Ice Cream. Vaped it all down without switching Flavors.(something I never do)
Rational thinking tells me this is 75/25 ratio with 2 drops sweetener per 10ML
Made a Batch of Strawberry Ice Cream to replicate Mixed Flavor................ Fail
After even 3 weeks of Steeping, there is a distinctive Strawberry Bite and the Ice Cream is not as smooth at all. Like the flavors refuse to play together. (Sharp edges)
Any explanations or have I found something new to have to deal with in Mixology?
I really, really liked the first combination.
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Challenging mixing issue!
10% TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream - mixed in 10ML
10% TFA Strawberry - mixed in 10ML
1 Drop Sweetener per 5ML in each - (so 4 drops total)
After 3 weeks of steeping - Mixed 3 parts Ice Cream to 1 part Strawberry. Made the most Delicious Strawberry Ice Cream. Vaped it all down without switching Flavors.(something I never do)
Rational thinking tells me this is 75/25 ratio with 2 drops sweetener per 10ML
Made a Batch of Strawberry Ice Cream to replicate Mixed Flavor................ Fail
After even 3 weeks of Steeping, there is a distinctive Strawberry Bite and the Ice Cream is not as smooth at all. Like the flavors refuse t oplay together. (Sharp edges)
Any explanations or have I found something new to have to deal with in Mixology?
I really, really liked the first combination.
Hmm, your reconstruction for 10ml sure seems like it should be:
0.75ml VBIC
0.25ml S
2 drops sweetener
9ml base
After the steep, if this didn't work, try something that makes no sense...a drop of VW mixed in with the flavorings before adding the remaining PG/VG & Nic.
Seriously don't know if that will work, but if it didn't work the logical way, it's time to start trying the illogical...or go back to steep each separately then combining later.
Oddly, I've been playing with VBIC and Strawberry lately. I haven't made strawberry ice cream, but I made something that tastes great, but I have no idea what it tastes like. Somebody said I should throw 2 random words together and just call it that. I don't know if anyone would say "yes" to me asking if they wanted to taste my Critical Shoes juice...
Thanks for the reply Hoosier!
I will keep at it. This was just to good to let go. For now, I'm going to make the separates and get them steeping.
No VW in house right now. Have Smooth, but not so sure about working with that one.
May make a small batch with TFA VBIC and Capella Sweet Strawberry. That one seems smoother anyway.
Will forgo the sweetener on that one.
I will keep at it. This was just to good to let go. For now, I'm going to make the separates and get them steeping.
No VW in house right now. Have Smooth, but not so sure about working with that one.
May make a small batch with TFA VBIC and Capella Sweet Strawberry. That one seems smoother anyway.
Will forgo the sweetener on that one.
Or maybe try no sweetener during the steep of the logical 75/25 mix then add it just before use?
I've found a number of odd, seemingly meaningless, things that impact the final flavor of some mixes. (Nearly all don't care about silly stuff like the above.)
I've found a number of odd, seemingly meaningless, things that impact the final flavor of some mixes. (Nearly all don't care about silly stuff like the above.)
I love this thread
I have a bottle of Banana Nut Bread that I just received and was planning on mixing up a test batch tonight when I got home and was trying to figure out what % to start out with and out of the blue this gets posted.I think I will start out with a 5% mix and go from there.
Did you mix anything else along with it or just the BNB?
How do you think a 1 or 2% add of honey will work with this?
I do, I'll put 1% of EM and 10% Black Cherry in mine and it's delicious! I usually do a 50/50 PG/VG blend at 18 mg nicotine.
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I did 10% black cherry in a 60/40 pg/vg mix last night at 11mg. It was pretty good. I might have to try a bottle with 1% EM in it and see how they compare.
banana nut bread- wow. trust me, 10% BNB and thats it. awesome. if its perfumey, steep a week. altho it was only perfumey the first time i made it.. after that for some reason, now its vapable right away and damn delicious. =D =D =D
Oh, i have to try this one. I make so much at a time, that it steeps for weeks before I get to them.
I suspect you are talking about seed steeping. If you make a new batch in the same bottle as a partially used previous batch, either you don't need to steep, or steeping time is shortened. Somehow the well-steeped juice works as a catalyst to quickly steep the new juice. Weird.
So banana nut bread gets better with time? I made a batch and to me it just tasted like nut it was so overpowering that no matter what I added to it to level the flavors it was still just....... nut! Even let it sit for several days lid off and it did not change at all
I would like to give it another shot bit don't wanted waste the base if it is the same
I would like to give it another shot bit don't wanted waste the base if it is the same
PG and VG are cheap enough and work well enough to test batches of new flavors / blends. Nic will (should) not change the flavor only the TH and of course the cost..
I had no idea about that - next time I'm starting to run low on a favorite flavor, I'll save some for the new batch. Double Chocolate Caramel Truffle is one that I'm always polishing off . . . great tip!
I've got a CaraCap batch that was done in an old bottle on 9/3 and it already has me wondering if I put some Caramel in it. It must work.
All I did was use the empty bottle without rinsing it.
Bringing the list fwd!
Absinthe: 10%
Almond Amaretto: 5-10%, 5/5
Apple: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Banana Cream 10%-15%
Banana Nut Bread: 5-7% (Great for mixing)
Bavarian Cream 5%-15%
Belgium Waffle 8-!2% 4/5
Bittersweet (Choc): 10-15%, 4/5
Black Cherry: 5-15%, 5/5
Black Honey Tobacco: 3-5%
Blackberry: 6%
Black Sesame 1/10% (per eikon) that's .1 of a percent
Black Tea 2.5-12% 3/5 needs a little steeping
Blueberry: 15%
Blueberry Extra: 6/5 10-13%
Boysenberry: 5/5 ~1% (a dash of EM & Citric make it sing)
Brown Sugar 15-20%
Bubblegum: 10%>
Butterscotch: 12%
Caramel: 10-15%, 5/5
Caramel Candy: 15-20%, 5/5
Caramel Cappuccino: 1 drop in 10ml base 4/5
Chai Tea: 10% 5/5 Very Unique, a must try
Champagne: 7%
Cheesecake: 3%-15%, 2/5
Cherry Blossom; 15%
Chocolate: 10-15%, 5/5
Chocolate Mint: 10% (more chocolate than mint)
Cinnamon: 0.25% (Just Sweet Cinnamon)
Cinnamon Red Hots: 5-15%, 5/5
Cinnamon Spice: 0.5% Okay Starting Point
Cinnamon Sugar Cookie: 5%-15%
Clove: 2-3%
Coconut Extra: ~10%, 5/5
Cotton Candy: 10-20%, 5/5
DK Tab 555: 2%-5%
Dragon Fruit: 5-12%
Double Chocolate (Clear) 10-12% 4/5
Dulce de Leche: <10%> - overpowering at 20% - good for combining
Earl Grey: 3% (This is a strong Tea)
English Toffee: 15-17%
Flue Cured Tobacco: 8-15% 5/5
French Vanilla: 10% (For me: Gets chemical/perfume tones over 5%)
Graham Cracker: 10-15%, 5/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Grape: 12%
Grape Jolly Rancher: 8% - 10% 6/5
Green Apple: 12-20%
Green Tea: 10-15% 4/5
Hawaiian Punch 12% 5/5
Hazelnut 16% 5/5
Hazelnut Praline: 5%, 2/5
Hibiscus 1% (Start at 0.5%)
Holiday Spice 1-2% (start at 0.5%)
Honey: 1-5% (Very present at 5%)
Honeydew Melon: 5-10%
Honeysuckle: 10- 15% - very good but FYI will crack a tank
Horchata: 5%, 5/5
Irish Cream: 10 - 12%
Juicy Peach 5%- 17%
Key Lime Pie 12%
Kona Coffee: 1drop/10ml, 4/5
Lemon/Lime 5% 4/5
Licorice 5/5 10% needs a few weeks to steep
Lime (oil-based): 1-5%, 4/5
Lychee:2-7%
M-type Tobacco- 1% for starters... It requires a loooong steep!
Malted Milk: 5% (best mixed with other others)
Mango: 13%
Maple Syrup: 10-15%
Marischino Cherry: 5%, 4/5
Menthol Liquid ( PG ): 1-5%
Milk Chocolate: 20%, 4/5
Mint Candy: 12%, 4.5/5
Mt. Dew 10%-20%
Nectarine: 11% (Spot On)
Orange Cream: 5-10% 5/5 (To note, I am using all vg . So, I use it at higher %'s)
Papaya: 10% 5-5 (Very Fragrant)
Peach (not juicy) 12-15%
Peach (juicy): 5-7% 5/5
Peanut Butter: 10-15%, 5/5
Pear: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Peppermint: 15%
Pie Crust 0.5%-12% 2/5 Adjusted minimum from 2% to 0.5%
Pineapple: 15% 4.5/5 ( authentic flavor, I used 5% EM to sweeten)
Pizza: ~5%, 5/5
Plum: 5-10%, 4/5
Pomegranate: 7.5%-14%
Popcorn: 13%-15%
Raisin: 0.5-3% (Powerful) I dilute mine before mixing 1:3
Raspberry:5-10%
Red Bull: 10%
Ripe Banana: 8-12% (3-5% EM to make it a good stand alone flavor)
RY4 Double- 5-15%
RY4 Asian: 10-15%
Smooth 1 drops per 10 ml
Spearmint: <5% Very strong start small
Strawberry: 3%-15%
Strawberry Kiwi 20% 1/5
Strawberries & Cream: 10-12% (good on its own, better with 3-5% EM)
Sweet Cream: 5-10%, 4/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Sweet Tart: 10%, 5/5 - Tastes more like Smarties
Sweetener (Liquid): 4-6% (higher than 6% can be required, less strong than crystals)
Tangerine (oil-based): 1-5%, 5/5
Tiramisu 2%-15% Over 5% tastes like burned coffee
Tobacco Blend Alcohol: 0.5-2.5%
Toasted Marshmallow: 10-15%
Toasted Almond: 15%
Tobacco Absolute (TA): <1%
Tutti Frutti: 10-15%, 4.5/5 (closer to 15% the more VG I use)
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream: 4-8%, 4/5 (excellent mixer)
Vanilla Bourbon: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Vanilla Cupcake: 20%
Vanilla Swirl: 10%
Violet Candy: 10 - 12% (one of my favorite vapes)
Waffle: 20%, 5/5
Watermelon: 15% 4/5
Whipped Cream 3% to 14% 3/5
White Chocolate: 10% (note: mine had sugar as ingredient)
Wintergreen: 20%, 5/5
PA Sucralose Sweetener: 0.5%--2%+, 4.5/5
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Absinthe: 10%
Almond Amaretto: 5-10%, 5/5
Apple: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Banana Cream 10%-15%
Banana Nut Bread: 5-7% (Great for mixing)
Bavarian Cream 5%-15%
Belgium Waffle 8-!2% 4/5
Bittersweet (Choc): 10-15%, 4/5
Black Cherry: 5-15%, 5/5
Black Honey Tobacco: 3-5%
Blackberry: 6%
Black Sesame 1/10% (per eikon) that's .1 of a percent
Black Tea 2.5-12% 3/5 needs a little steeping
Blueberry: 15%
Blueberry Extra: 6/5 10-13%
Boysenberry: 5/5 ~1% (a dash of EM & Citric make it sing)
Brown Sugar 15-20%
Bubblegum: 10%>
Butterscotch: 12%
Caramel: 10-15%, 5/5
Caramel Candy: 15-20%, 5/5
Caramel Cappuccino: 1 drop in 10ml base 4/5
Chai Tea: 10% 5/5 Very Unique, a must try
Champagne: 7%
Cheesecake: 3%-15%, 2/5
Cherry Blossom; 15%
Chocolate: 10-15%, 5/5
Chocolate Mint: 10% (more chocolate than mint)
Cinnamon: 0.25% (Just Sweet Cinnamon)
Cinnamon Red Hots: 5-15%, 5/5
Cinnamon Spice: 0.5% Okay Starting Point
Cinnamon Sugar Cookie: 5%-15%
Clove: 2-3%
Coconut Extra: ~10%, 5/5
Cotton Candy: 10-20%, 5/5
DK Tab 555: 2%-5%
Dragon Fruit: 5-12%
Double Chocolate (Clear) 10-12% 4/5
Dulce de Leche: <10%> - overpowering at 20% - good for combining
Earl Grey: 3% (This is a strong Tea)
English Toffee: 15-17%
Flue Cured Tobacco: 8-15% 5/5
French Vanilla: 10% (For me: Gets chemical/perfume tones over 5%)
Graham Cracker: 10-15%, 5/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Grape: 12%
Grape Jolly Rancher: 8% - 10% 6/5
Green Apple: 12-20%
Green Tea: 10-15% 4/5
Hawaiian Punch 12% 5/5
Hazelnut 16% 5/5
Hazelnut Praline: 5%, 2/5
Hibiscus 1% (Start at 0.5%)
Holiday Spice 1-2% (start at 0.5%)
Honey: 1-5% (Very present at 5%)
Honeydew Melon: 5-10%
Honeysuckle: 10- 15% - very good but FYI will crack a tank
Horchata: 5%, 5/5
Irish Cream: 10 - 12%
Juicy Peach 5%- 17%
Key Lime Pie 12%
Kona Coffee: 1drop/10ml, 4/5
Lemon/Lime 5% 4/5
Licorice 5/5 10% needs a few weeks to steep
Lime (oil-based): 1-5%, 4/5
Lychee:2-7%
M-type Tobacco- 1% for starters... It requires a loooong steep!
Malted Milk: 5% (best mixed with other others)
Mango: 13%
Maple Syrup: 10-15%
Marischino Cherry: 5%, 4/5
Menthol Liquid ( PG ): 1-5%
Milk Chocolate: 20%, 4/5
Mint Candy: 12%, 4.5/5
Mt. Dew 10%-20%
Nectarine: 11% (Spot On)
Orange Cream: 5-10% 5/5 (To note, I am using all vg . So, I use it at higher %'s)
Papaya: 10% 5-5 (Very Fragrant)
Peach (not juicy) 12-15%
Peach (juicy): 5-7% 5/5
Peanut Butter: 10-15%, 5/5
Pear: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Peppermint: 15%
Pie Crust 0.5%-12% 2/5 Adjusted minimum from 2% to 0.5%
Pineapple: 15% 4.5/5 ( authentic flavor, I used 5% EM to sweeten)
Pizza: ~5%, 5/5
Plum: 5-10%, 4/5
Pomegranate: 7.5%-14%
Popcorn: 13%-15%
Raisin: 0.5-3% (Powerful) I dilute mine before mixing 1:3
Raspberry:5-10%
Red Bull: 10%
Ripe Banana: 8-12% (3-5% EM to make it a good stand alone flavor)
RY4 Double- 5-15%
RY4 Asian: 10-15%
Smooth 1 drops per 10 ml
Spearmint: <5% Very strong start small
Strawberry: 3%-15%
Strawberry Kiwi 20% 1/5
Strawberries & Cream: 10-12% (good on its own, better with 3-5% EM)
Sweet Cream: 5-10%, 4/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Sweet Tart: 10%, 5/5 - Tastes more like Smarties
Sweetener (Liquid): 4-6% (higher than 6% can be required, less strong than crystals)
Tangerine (oil-based): 1-5%, 5/5
Tiramisu 2%-15% Over 5% tastes like burned coffee
Tobacco Blend Alcohol: 0.5-2.5%
Toasted Marshmallow: 10-15%
Toasted Almond: 15%
Tobacco Absolute (TA): <1%
Tutti Frutti: 10-15%, 4.5/5 (closer to 15% the more VG I use)
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream: 4-8%, 4/5 (excellent mixer)
Vanilla Bourbon: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Vanilla Cupcake: 20%
Vanilla Swirl: 10%
Violet Candy: 10 - 12% (one of my favorite vapes)
Waffle: 20%, 5/5
Watermelon: 15% 4/5
Whipped Cream 3% to 14% 3/5
White Chocolate: 10% (note: mine had sugar as ingredient)
Wintergreen: 20%, 5/5
PA Sucralose Sweetener: 0.5%--2%+, 4.5/5
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