The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

8% Fruit Circles
5% Berry Crunch
3% Bavarian Cream

How much sweetener would you typically add to a mix of this sort?

Depends on your sweet tooth, but I would think 2 - 4% would be about right. Sweeten to taste.

 

[CampbellMC]

Oooh. Got some good ones.
Watermelon 12%
Blueberry Extra 6%
Sweet cream 4%
Van swirl 4%
EM 4%

Just want to say thank you, I mixed up both this one and the pure watermelon one, both are great. For the 30ml I did I raised Sweet Cream to 5% and dropped Vanilla Swirl to 3%, perfect blend for my tastes.

 

[MasteroftheVape]

Just want to say thank you, I mixed up both this one and the pure watermelon one, both are great. For the 30ml I did I raised Sweet Cream to 5% and dropped Vanilla Swirl to 3%, perfect blend for my tastes.

No worries. Hope it gets you on the right track.

Tfa flavors are the kind of flavors used in the candy industries. Normally you would add 8oz of watermelon flavor to 200lb of sugar to make a delicious watermelon suckers, but we vapors obviously can't use huge amounts of sugars to make that mouth watering sweetness.

Tfa does cater well to the vaping community but in the end the flavors are still meant to be food additives, this is where the creams and vanilla and sweeteners are a necessity to fill in the gaps with most flavors.

 

[Mark Denison]

Depends on your sweet tooth, but I would think 2 - 4% would be about right. Sweeten to taste.

Perhaps a couple % of Dulce de Leche?

 

[purelyscientific]

Definitely interested in hearing how the cream cheese icing works with the cinnamon danish,in theory it sounds like a good combo.Like Bill mentioned,it's definitely a strong flavor,but thats ok since it's a good one haha,plus it will mellow out some over time.I made a mix a while back with the cci and tfa red velvet,and that recipe has the cci at a whopping 6%,at first it completey overpowered every other flavor in that mix.It was good then,but everything else was just a very faint taste.I forgot about it as i started trying other recipes,so it sat for a few weeks.When i found it,i decided to finish off the bottle,and found that the red velvet had made a comeback and was now right there with the flavor of the cream cheese.It now tastes exactly like a piece of red velvet with the cream cheese icing,good stuff right there haha.One day i will make it again,and try dropping the % on the cci a bit,but on that one i dont mind a bit of steep time as it was fantastic when i went back to it.

The recipe was a fail(as of now). It has that classic too-much-flavor taste when fresh mixed. I'll report back after it has steeped for a bit.

I tested Turkish tobacco TFA at 5% on its own and I gotta say, at first the smell of the flavor made me a bit hesitant but after vaping it I can't get enough. First puff I thought hmmm, that's interesting. It is very hard to describe. It is grassy and aromatic. I almost want to say spicy, but it's not. It is a tad sweet, but not much. It may pair well with oak flavor or something similar. It is defiantly not something I'd pair with my usual additives like vanilla.

I'm a fan of this one. I also like the Virginia fire cured tobacco. I'm not a fan of 555 though.

(PS. I mixed the Turkish Tobacco at 5% 20mg 60/40 with a 1mL syringe with a 14g needle tip with all of my bases at room temperature except for the nicotine which is PG based)

 

[Wruff]

Toasted Almond = Yum

Dbl Choc 5%
Milk Choc 3%
Caramel 5%
Toasted Almond 3%
Pie Crust 2%

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

Perhaps a couple % of Dulce de Leche?

For me, the dulce is the missing ingredient in our cereal mixes. Good eye, my friend!

 

[trueagle]

Anyone e have a blueberry waffles recipe

 

[NGAHaze]

ATM means you vape it at the time of mixing, HFM means high flavor mix, LFM is low flavor mix, 100 DT is 100 drop test.

That's how we've been mixing here, so we know how the flavor tastes as soon as we mix it, rather than letting it steep and not knowing what adjustments it needs until a week or two later.

Thanks Kathi, much appreciated!

Hmm, 100 drop test, sounds interesting. I do a drop test when trying to get a feel for a new flavor but it's never been 100 of them. I usually start with 1 drop of flavor to 19 drops of pg/vg for a ~5% flavor mix and go from there. How does the 100 drop test work?

 

[MasteroftheVape]

It works the same as your 20 drop test, but each drop is 1%. Easier to make small test batches with drops than measure out ml.

 

[NGAHaze]

It works the same as your 20 drop test, but each drop is 1%. Easier to make small test batches with drops than measure out ml.

Ah, okay that makes sense, Thank You! That would indeed make it easy to whip up some quick test recipes ... sweet!

Now why the heck didn't I think of doing that long ago?

 

[Joie]

what does everyone use for taste testing your recipes ? I have a few Iclear16's that I rewick with cotton.....and some old EVODS that I just change cotton in. I wNt to get the same flavor that I will when I make a bigge batch.

 

[MasteroftheVape]

what does everyone use for taste testing your recipes ? I have a few Iclear16's that I rewick with cotton.....and some old EVODS that I just change cotton in. I wNt to get the same flavor that I will when I make a bigge batch.

I use my every day setup. Just use a fresh wick.

 

[G-weezy]

So doing the drop test on a single flavor? Or you combining flavors to see what the mix will be? Can I do a 20 drop test with multiple flavors?

Thanks. I just have a bunch of flavors that I don't even know where to begin.

I tried Strawberry Banana and it was way too much. Will Citrus punch flavor give the sour flavor? I wanted to try grape, watermelon, koolada mix.

 

[MasteroftheVape]

Do the drop test on whatever you want. Single flavors or recipes. It's just an easier way to measure small batches.

 

[NGAHaze]

So doing the drop test on a single flavor? Or you combining flavors to see what the mix will be? Can I do a 20 drop test with multiple flavors?

I think the 20 drop test works well for testing individual flavors and I believe it's a good exercise to test single flavors since taste is so subjective. I typically take notes as I'm testing, recording when I first start to taste the flavor, when it peaks and when it starts to go into overload. This helps me not only when I make new recipes but also when I'm looking at recipes created by others.

There is a list ( I thought it used to be in this thread in fact ) where suggested starting percentages for individual flavors were compiled but even with that it's often just a range which may or may not line up with your particular palate.

To your specific question, I don't believe Citrus Punch will do what you are hoping; if I'm not mistaken, that flavor is a Mtn. Dew type flavor and while it might be good in that mix, I don't think it would add any significant sour note as a whole.

 

[G-weezy]

Thanks. I'm gonna try some flavors out when I get a chance.

 

[aly77]

Last test batch made it better. My wife likes it -- that is the overall goal!

This isn't perfect yet but it is very close and definitely something I could vape all day. I started from a recipe I saw someone post a while back for an After Dinner Mints flavor and twiddled from there.

This recipe was developed at 60/40 VG/PG ratio (it's closer to what my wife is used to than what I'm vaping lately - 70/30).


Snow Day knockoff - All TFA flavors
9% TFA Peppermint
5% TFA Sweet Cream
4% TFA Vanilla Swirl
2% TFA Koolada

You may find you want to sweeten it a bit - she is pretty sensitive to liquids being too sweet but this is "just right" for her taste. It is fairly sweet from the Vanilla Swirl. I may try another tweek or two but nothing major.

Enjoy and all comments/suggestions welcome.

Just made this because I went through my 4ml sizes and saw I had Peppermint. This is my first minty vape ever, and it is awesome with a great after taste. I don't know that I would do anything to it. I mixed mine at 50/50. Thanks Nic-holio!!!

 

[kathi17]

I think the 20 drop test works well for testing individual flavors and I believe it's a good exercise to test single flavors since taste is so subjective. I typically take notes as I'm testing, recording when I first start to taste the flavor, when it peaks and when it starts to go into overload. This helps me not only when I make new recipes but also when I'm looking at recipes created by others.

There is a list ( I thought it used to be in this thread in fact ) where suggested starting percentages for individual flavors were compiled but even with that it's often just a range which may or may not line up with your particular palate.

To your specific question, I don't believe Citrus Punch will do what you are hoping; if I'm not mistaken, that flavor is a Mtn. Dew type flavor and while it might be good in that mix, I don't think it would add any significant sour note as a whole.

I need to do some 20 drop tests of my single flavors so I can get an idea of what they really taste like.

I have very little time for DIY, so I've only made a few things, and they were all either from Bill, or one from that recipe site. I really do need to sample mine so I know how they taste alone.

 

[G-weezy]

Just tried a batch.

Juicy Peach 10%
French Vanilla 10%
Brown Sugar 2%

50/50 0mg

Taste ok for now. But will wait and see how it taste in a few hours.