The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

[hittman]

I need to look harder for some type of organizer. I have mostly 15 and 30ml bottles and keep little 6ml bottles of some flavors for 100Dt.

I just loaded some of the strawberry milkshake I made earlier and don't taste the strawberry very much at 5%. The dulche is very up front in it. I might let it sit overnight to see if it smooths out some.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

I need to look harder for some type of organizer. I have mostly 15 and 30ml bottles and keep little 6ml bottles of some flavors for 100Dt.

I just loaded some of the strawberry milkshake I made earlier and don't taste the strawberry very much at 5%. The dulche is very up front in it. I might let it sit overnight to see if it smooths out some.

The little boxes I posted about work fine for the Wizard labs 30 ml bottles.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

I need to look harder for some type of organizer. I have mostly 15 and 30ml bottles and keep little 6ml bottles of some flavors for 100Dt.

I just loaded some of the strawberry milkshake I made earlier and don't taste the strawberry very much at 5%. The dulche is very up front in it. I might let it sit overnight to see if it smooths out some.

What kind of flavor does the Dulche have?
I have never tried it but see it in lots of recipes.

 

[hittman]

To me it almost tastes a little nutty.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

To me it almost tastes a little nutty.

hmmm... thanks for the feedback.
Not sure if I would like that is some of the recipes I have seen it in...

 

[Ablonz]

What kind of flavor does the Dulche have?
I have never tried it but see it in lots of recipes.

I have, its kind of hard to describe. A little nutty, yes and like a sweet cream. It is a really good flavor. The reason I bought some was because I had Dulche De Leche Icecream and really liked it. Maybe buy some and try it out Icecream that is. give you a good sample on taste and I would say it is really close to the flavor of the icecream. I mixed mine with pb and milk chocolate, and caramel.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

I have, its kind of hard to describe. A little nutty, yes and like a sweet cream. It is a really good flavor. The reason I bought some was because I had Dulche De Leche Icecream and really liked it. Maybe buy some and try it out Icecream that is. give you a good sample on taste and I would say it is really close to the flavor of the icecream. I mixed mine with pb and milk chocolate, and caramel.

PB is one flavoring which does not interest me at all for some reason.
I like PB but just can't see vaping it. I just like PB sandwiches or Reese's cups. No PB candy or anything.
I will probably order some Dulche with my next flavoring order though. Sounds interesting for other things....

 

[Ablonz]

PB is one flavoring which does not interest me at all for some reason.
I like PB but just can't see vaping it. I just like PB sandwiches or Reese's cups. No PB candy or anything.

It actually came out quite close to a reeses PB cup mix. It was weird at first but actually really good. Just for dessert so to speak. Not really an ADV for me yet..... getting closer to perfecting it.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

Bill, how long does it take to steep out that Starbusrt recipe you posted, I made a base of it of 60 mls and omitted the rasberry so I can try a few flavors that fit in Starburst,Lemon, strawberry,orange and cherry. I was hoping to work with this to help pinpoint the differences in the different companys fruits, I know I should try single flavors first on them but I am going to give this a shot.

Vapeable in a couple of hours. Fully steeped in 24 hours. The different fruits will use different percentages against the entire mix, so you may not find that what you are tying to do works the way you might think it would. However, on this particular recipe, the other ingredients are in the proper proportion and by varying the percentages of fruit by each flavor (some are stronger than others), you may be able to have any number of successful experiments. I would take them one at a time and mix from scratch for each until you find the sweet spot. The advantage of high flavor mixes is that you're 95% to final flavoring upon mixing, and so you can literally finish a recipe after a few 100DT's. In fact, this is the very reason I switched to HFM in the first place. I cannot stand to wait to see if a mix is working, or not. These HFM allow us to mix to finish on each recipe attempt. I have never mixed more than 10 100DT's before finding the final recipe...EVER! As such, most every recipe I've ever made took about 30 minutes, and never more than an hour to finalize. Love HFM's! Good luck!

 

[clnire]

I sort my flavorings by type.
Fruit flavors.
Add in flavors like Grahm Cracker, cookie dough, butterscotch, etc.
Custards and creams
Stand alone flavors. Cinnamon Danish Swirl, Apple Pie, etc.
And a box or assorted reject flavors.

I get these from Wally World to put my 10-15 ml bottles of flavoring in. Work fantastic.
Not sure what is up with the online Wally World price but I just bought 3 more of them for 2.27 each today from my local Wally World.
Easy open close the juice sits nice in them and they stack great.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Advantus-3-x-5-inch-Plastic-File-Index-Card-Holder-Clear/42788352

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They also have another size that is great for 18650 batteries.
and a small one that is great for coils.

I use those boxes from Wally World too. Just bought another yesterday. $2.27.

 

[DoubleEwe]

I have, its kind of hard to describe. A little nutty, yes and like a sweet cream. It is a really good flavor. The reason I bought some was because I had Dulche De Leche Icecream and really liked it. Maybe buy some and try it out Icecream that is. give you a good sample on taste and I would say it is really close to the flavor of the icecream. I mixed mine with pb and milk chocolate, and caramel.

I would disagree on this (taste being subjective and all), for me DDL tastes horrible, it tastes to me like a cross between caramel made using Evaporated Milk and Bailey's Irish Cream Liquor.
It gives me the alcohol type taste, which I dislike, it is also really strong, even 1 or 2% will dominate the mix. It takes quite a long steep to settle down.

It does seem to be popular though in some people's custard recipes (the GVC clone recipe being a frequently used one).

 

[Ablonz]

I would disagree on this (taste being subjective and all), for me DDL tastes horrible, it tastes to me like a cross between caramel made using Evaporated Milk and Bailey's Irish Cream Liquor.
It gives me the alcohol type taste, which I dislike, it is also really strong, even 1 or 2% will dominate the mix. It takes quite a long steep to settle down.

It does seem to be popular though in some people's custard recipes (the GVC clone recipe being a frequently used one).

I use mine @ .5% as I have a low tolerance for flavoring. The most I have ever used in one flavor is 3% and most final amount of flavoring is 11.5% in total. That is with 9 different flavors as well.

 

[baseballmom]

Ddl, I am not fond of, sort of a caramelized evaporated (good note ww!)milk, yes I get a mild nutty taste from, it is strong for me and tends to take over a mix somehow even at low %'s, many use it and love what it brings ...age or no aging, not for me...I use malted milk instead at low %, but heads up- many don't like the mm flavor either, taste is subjective and my tastes might be a little "weird"/"touched" as is some times....I don't think ddl any brand is for me honestly though...oddly enough I like caramels and butterscotches though.

 

[DoubleEwe]

Ddl, I am not fond of, sort of a caramelized evaporated (good note ww!)milk, yes I get a mild nutty taste from, it is strong for me and tends to take over a mix somehow even at low %'s, many use it and love what it brings ...age or no aging, not for me...I use malted milk instead at low %, but heads up- many don't like the mm flavor either, taste is subjective and my tastes might be a little "weird"/"touched" as is some times....I don't think ddl any brand is for me honestly though...oddly enough I like caramels and butterscotches though.

Same for me, Caramels and Butterscotches I like in terms of real confectionery, DDL did sound like it would be up my street, but no.

TFA Butterscotch though is the stuff of culinary nightmares, absolutely vile. I have heard that I have been using it at too high a percent (I was using at 1-1.5%), so it may well be delicious at a lower level (similar to the most potent flavouring known to man - FA's Condensed Milk).

 

[Capt.shay]

Same for me, Caramels and Butterscotches I like in terms of real confectionery, DDL did sound like it would be up my street, but no.

TFA Butterscotch though is the stuff of culinary nightmares, absolutely vile. I have heard that I have been using it at too high a percent (I was using at 1-1.5%), so it may well be delicious at a lower level (similar to the most potent flavouring known to man - FA's Condensed Milk).

I was sneaking a vape of TFA butterscotch upstairs at a hall and a woman came up from the basement and asked me if someone brought butterscotch cookies. I just smiled and walked away. That stuff really takes over a room and I to mixed it at a small percentage. I don't think I have mixed any more and that was a year ago!

 

[Brkdnc]

I have been playing with butterscotch but at higher levels and just came up with this. I did let it "rest" for 10 days I like it, but your tastes may very

Butterscotch 10%
Sweet Cream 3%
Bavarian Cream 2%
Sweetener 2%

 

[DoubleEwe]

I have been playing with butterscotch but at higher levels and just came up with this. I did let it "rest" for 10 days I like it, but your tastes may very

Butterscotch 10%
Sweet Cream 3%
Bavarian Cream 2%
Sweetener 2%

I think the only time that I would want to make this recipe is if I was a magician and I needed help in bringing up a key.

(No offense meant there btw. I have seen people loving TFA Butterscotch at high levels, so horses for courses etc )

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Same for me, Caramels and Butterscotches I like in terms of real confectionery, DDL did sound like it would be up my street, but no.

TFA Butterscotch though is the stuff of culinary nightmares, absolutely vile. I have heard that I have been using it at too high a percent (I was using at 1-1.5%), so it may well be delicious at a lower level (similar to the most potent flavouring known to man - FA's Condensed Milk).

I like FW butterscotch and FW Caramel Candy.

 

[Brkdnc]

I think the only time that I would want to make this recipe is if I was a magician and I needed help in bringing up a key.

Took me a second to get that

 

[AndriaD]

Vapeable in a couple of hours. Fully steeped in 24 hours. The different fruits will use different percentages against the entire mix, so you may not find that what you are tying to do works the way you might think it would. However, on this particular recipe, the other ingredients are in the proper proportion and by varying the percentages of fruit by each flavor (some are stronger than others), you may be able to have any number of successful experiments. I would take them one at a time and mix from scratch for each until you find the sweet spot. The advantage of high flavor mixes is that you're 95% to final flavoring upon mixing, and so you can literally finish a recipe after a few 100DT's. In fact, this is the very reason I switched to HFM in the first place. I cannot stand to wait to see if a mix is working, or not. These HFM allow us to mix to finish on each recipe attempt. I have never mixed more than 10 100DT's before finding the final recipe...EVER! As such, most every recipe I've ever made took about 30 minutes, and never more than an hour to finalize. Love HFM's! Good luck!

Totally agree about being able to know if a recipe works, right when you mix it -- that is invaluable! But with any tobacco flavor in it... it still takes some godawful length of time to really know if it works or not -- that Cherry-Vanilla Pipe Tobacco mix I did... on first mixing, and even after a week, it really wasn't very good; 6 wks later, it was amazing!

Thank goodness I don't really care much for tobacco flavors anymore.

Andria