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The Future of ProVape

Discussion in 'ProVape' started by p.opus, Mar 10, 2014.

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  1. p.opus

    p.opus Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 24, 2010
    Coral Springs FL
    Guys,

    Now that Washington legislators in their "infinite wisdom" have levied a 75% tax on e-cigs and e-cig equipment, how will this affect you business?

    I'm pretty sure that most of your customers are "out of state" but I don't know if the tax affects everything "sold" or just everything bought from a Washington Resident.

    Also it appears that a 75% tax on the ProVari would make the ProVari out of reach for many folks.

    I guess there is one silver lining. A lot of people will be getting their ProVari orders in before the enforcement of the tax.

    [EDIT]: Just ordered my second one this morning.....

    Thanks.
     
  2. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Signature Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 9, 2012
    Woodburn, OR
  3. slappy3139

    slappy3139 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2013
    New Iberia, LA, USA
    It just passed the House Finance Committee, right? Not a done deal yet, pretty sure the full house would have to vote on it and then go to the senate, I think?
     
  4. Steamer861

    Steamer861 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 13, 2014
    Canada
    If I owned Provape I would just move my address out of state to a state with no tax bounce the shipments out of there and should be problem solved?
     
  5. Riverboat

    Riverboat Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 15, 2012
    Arizona
    Looks like Provape will have to relocate their business...
     
  6. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Signature Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 9, 2012
    Woodburn, OR
    Hey ProVape, Oregon doesn't have a sales tax.

    nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
    I would think so. If ProVape was physically located in that state. Otherwise, that would be tax evasion, and a crime (above and beyond the criminally high tax imposed by the state).

    Not so easy on the employees I would think.
    Or their families.
     
  7. Steamer861

    Steamer861 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 13, 2014
    Canada
    it,s a sales Tax not a manufacturing tax they just need to sell out of another state no need to move the operation just the point of sale
    big business does it all the time A Cat excavator is a mitsubishe it,s made in Japan assembled in Brazil and exported from there why Tax's!

     
  8. Kellysleep

    Kellysleep Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 3, 2014
    Lynchburg,VA,USA
    Does the tax included everything e cig related or only e liquid? Since the e liquid is the only thing containing the nicotine? Nope head buried in sand haven't seen much on any of this sorry don't flog me I'm new!
     
  9. spartanstew

    spartanstew ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 29, 2013
    Wylie, Texas
    Link to article in post #2.
     
  10. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Signature Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 9, 2012
    Woodburn, OR
    I dug through the bill, and this seems to be the relevant portion of it regarding e-cigarettes.
    As best I understand it, this would only apply to e-juice/pre-filled cartos/and cig-a-likes. am I reading that wrong?
    Here's the link to everything: HB 2795 - 2013-14
     
  11. Gato del Jugo

    Gato del Jugo ProVarinati ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2013
    US o' A
  12. p.opus

    p.opus Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 24, 2010
    Coral Springs FL
  13. Spydro

    Spydro Sindoyen Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 20, 2013
    Sin City
    MBV will certainly feel the squeeze if on juice. They have a strong following, I assume mainly because of their low price point (I tried it once, never went back).
     
  14. Gato del Jugo

    Gato del Jugo ProVarinati ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2013
    US o' A
    Not a MBV customer..

    But hopefully they're mobilizing their base, as well


    Do vape businesses ever band together to help stop these evils of the world?
     
  15. p.opus

    p.opus Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 24, 2010
    Coral Springs FL
    Blame Washington
     
  16. Maurice Pudlo

    Maurice Pudlo Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 27, 2013
    United States
    Seems pretty crappy to me, a tax shouldn't earn more than a company earns themselves, but that's just my opinion.

    Maurice
     
  17. PLANofMAN

    PLANofMAN Signature Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 9, 2012
    Woodburn, OR
    Good grief, you've had to eat a lot of crow in the last month. The submersible debacle, the initial ProVari order, the second ProVari order...
    ...the third and future ProVari order???

    It is not the job of businesses to elect and control the people's representatives. If a Representative or Congressman/Congresswoman votes in a manner you don't agree with, it is your job to vote for someone who will. I vote, do you?
     
  18. p.opus

    p.opus Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 24, 2010
    Coral Springs FL

    Good thing I've developed quite the taste for it......:lol:
     
  19. aikanae1

    aikanae1 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2013
    az
    I was hoping to hear a word from Provape admin.
     
  20. Coldrake

    Coldrake Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    From the bill;

    tobacco product" means:

    (i) Any product containing, made, or derived from tobacco or
    nicotine that is intended for human consumption, whether chewed,
    smoked, absorbed, dissolved, inhaled, snorted, sniffed, or ingested by
    any other means
    ; and

    (ii) Any electronic device that can be used to deliver nicotine or
    other substances to the person inhaling from the device, including,
    but not limited to, an electronic cigarette
    , cigar, pipe, or
    hookah.


    (b) Notwithstanding any provisions of (a)(i) and (ii) of this
    subsection to the contrary, "tobacco product" includes any
    component, part, or accessory of a tobacco product whether or not
    it is sold separately.


    It covers everything.
     
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