The future of vaping?
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while i like the idea of "mainstream" i truly hate the idea of big tobacco making more money... they might help with banning good flavors too... for the children... and big tobacco would just stomp all over small outfits. Big tobacco would also be sure to keep prices static and perhaps even cooperate with one another to ensure inflated prices. BT could never allow us to save money their shareholders are as addicted to profit as we are to nic.
It's interesting seeing what new vapers see as the future of ecigs. I'm sure if they resemble analogs it will not be that difficult bridging back to smoking when your pizz poor battery fails.
I'm not understanding exactly what you are saying. Could you please explain?
Why?
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I find comments like this funny. It assumes battery tech will remain static, but of course it won't. As soon as a small (mini) battery comes out that meets my minimum performance criteria then I'll switch in a second. I'm not saying everyone wants the same thing (can that be said about any product?) but typically the majority will gravitate towards something similar and more convenient.
I also don't like the thought of BT taking over, but what product in any industry doesn't get taken over by larger entities once it becomes popular enough? It's probably inevitable that larger companies become involved with vaping. In fact, they already are.
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried lol. This thread has clearly shown that there really are different kinda vapers. Those that want to dissociate themselves from everything cig-alike related and those that just want something small, efficient and convenient. Why should that mean that one group is better than the other?
But in relation to what you said, first off battery tech improves by about 5-8% every single year. And that is not taking any of the tech breakthroughs that are already on the horizon into consideration that can improve batteries by about 300-1000%. But battery tech improvements aside, you are missing the main point about ecig minis. There is a reason they usually always come with a PCC. They don't expect anyone to non stop for 1hr. So the batteries will last for about an hour and you simply put it into the PCC while not vaping to recharge your batteries.
A very sound and practical approach if you ask me. A device like an eRoll produces acceptable vapor, gives good flavor, has a PCC case, easy to refill or change tanks, easy to change atomizers.... so what exactly is bad about it? Its not big enough? My only problem with it is that the PCC holds only one e-cig. That I feel is a really stupid oversight on their part... but i really like where they are going with that form factor.
Funny thing is, devices like that actually stand to make more people try out vaping than the bigger devices. Its just easier to wrap your head around. And whats funny, is that its actually good enough to keep them happy.
Why, because some people want something that isn't over 4-6" long and can comfortably fit in their pockets?
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I would not be vaping if the analog style was the only option. I have stocked up on mesh (hundreds of feet) and have the ability and knowledge to extract if my 10+ gallon supply runs short. Again this is me and the previous poster is right, there are different types of vapers out there.
I would be shocked to see a high-end analog style ever come out, they are cheap to make and markup is easy when selling to the unaware. The reason analog styles have any popularity is because of their market penetration for every e-cigarette store there are 500 gas stations and that is before the enema that big tobacco will be administrating. More than half of the people I meet that are vaping or smoking have never heard of this site, most stores haven't heard about the big names (Provari, Zenesis, GG, etc.). I vaped on a green nicotine (pure crap) for 5 months before ever knowing there was something better out there.
I would be shocked to see a high-end analog style ever come out, they are cheap to make and markup is easy when selling to the unaware. The reason analog styles have any popularity is because of their market penetration for every e-cigarette store there are 500 gas stations and that is before the enema that big tobacco will be administrating. More than half of the people I meet that are vaping or smoking have never heard of this site, most stores haven't heard about the big names (Provari, Zenesis, GG, etc.). I vaped on a green nicotine (pure crap) for 5 months before ever knowing there was something better out there.
For what it's worth, I did my part with submitting a comment via the proper website....hope it helps as I'm still learning about vaping but the disposables I've been using have helped me cut into my regular cigarette use to a great deal.
And just to be accurate, the FDA does not create legislation.
JoyeTech will corner the market with a ProVari-like quality device for less than a buck fitty.
DIY juice supplies and flavors will be available OTC at Walgreen's and CVS, though not labled as such.
Ace Harware, True-Value, Tractor Supply will see triple digit sales of Kanthal wire and silica wick.
My two cents.
DIY juice supplies and flavors will be available OTC at Walgreen's and CVS, though not labled as such.
Ace Harware, True-Value, Tractor Supply will see triple digit sales of Kanthal wire and silica wick.
My two cents.
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Anything big tobacco comes out with will be major suckage compared to the ProVari APV.
You don't know that. In fact, when compared with the crappy ecigs at gas stations, if someone tries say an eGo-C starter kit, they will be amazed at the vapor production and throat hit (depending on the juice), and may want to switch.
Ive actually tried those crappy Blus, borrowed it from a friend that no longer used it to see if it could help. My first ecig was back in 2006 and it was crap (exactly like Blu), spent $100 on it and threw it in the trash the next day. The new vaporizers out there is what got me into vaping and I have been doing it for about two months now, going from 1-1.5 pack a day to 1-5 cigs a day, hoping to one day quit both. It has helped me in ways that I never thought imaginable.
I actually wouldn't be surprised if the FDA regulates it and demands more nicotine to be placed so we can never quit ecigs either. Look at cigarettes being regulated now. There are over 4000 chemicals in them and the nicotine level has been slowly raised. What are they regulating? Their paychecks?
I actually wouldn't be surprised if the FDA regulates it and demands more nicotine to be placed so we can never quit ecigs either. Look at cigarettes being regulated now. There are over 4000 chemicals in them and the nicotine level has been slowly raised. What are they regulating? Their paychecks?
i think big tobacco companies are making bad quality ecigs to delay its spreading. what the future holds for vaping. either an underground moding community with more complicated high end devices or a main stream production with easy to use devices. for example a spraying auto regulated atomizer like the car engines system.
Sign the petition unless you don't mind tobacco and menthol being the only flavors available, but it won't really matter because you will only be able to get it in a prefilled cartridge to use with your three piece cigarette look alike.
i just hope i never have to remenisce about these being the good ole days before the FDAand HEALTH CANADA completely shut down our lovely little hobby. I just dont know how I can make a difference.......does anyone want to think about what happens if were outlawed because of BT influence? All our discussions about the next new gadget will seem silly
Going to be regulated within the next 10 years.
Hardware is going to advance as it has been, 7-11 will sell you e-juice in tamper-proof cartridges along with cigs ... all taxable the same way.
Lots of DIY & backdoor e-liquid sales will spring up with new penalties introduced for cutting the taxman out of the picture.
I doubt it will ever be banned in China/Asia/Africa, and that means product shipping will continue no matter what they do on these sides of the ocean. Wherever they want to plug a hole, another will open up.
People want something, even armies can't stop it in this day and age.
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They will sooner ban analogs before they ban e-cigs. The real problem is how e-cigs will be regulated. Will it just be a stringent set of rules and requirements vendors are expected to follow for "safety" reasons or will it be something more sinister......
Very true.....the FDA already lost on the front where it would have been able to regulate e-cigs as drug-delivery devices which would have been their path to an outright ban. They have wide powers under the legislation that allowed the FDA to regulate tobacco products back in 2009 but they cannot ban nicotine so e-cigs should be fine. That said, what I think will be targeted is all of the e-juice flavors that will be deemed to be targeted to kids (all the fruits and such).....that they can ban just as they could ban them with regular cigs. I can also see them banning high levels of nicotine content. Beyond that, we'll have to wait and see but at the end of the day I cannot fathom that they would come down harder on e-cigs than they would the existing tobacco products unless they are able to utilize their authority to ban new products (I think the date is 2007).
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