The future of vaping?

[Tonytiger1]

Im gonna have to call b.s on that. I just attended Vapercon in Richmond Va that had over 1600 people attend. Their was a haze hanging in the air with a sweet syrupy smell from all the different juice flavors mixing but NO ONE there complained about getting a nicotine buzz from just being in the room. There were several non-smokers and vapers in attendance as well supporting their significant others.

Theres at least one report that out that supports this as well.The amount of nicotine left in the air after expelling vapor dissipates rapidly, 99 percent of it is absorbed into the lining of the mouth and nose or into the lungs.

You can find the report here http://www.healthnz.co.nz/RuyanCartr...t30-Oct-08.pdf

What happened to taking the time to read forums and then asking intelligent questions to answers you dont know instead of just spouting off nonsense like you were an authority on the subject?

. Let's take caffeine away. I can say hay I smell your coffee. It getting caffeine in my system. That's what I hate most about people. Double standards. They will eat a big Mac but complain if you have an ecig they don't understand. I ignore people. Im to old.
Here's my bad aaa ecig and I tell people I love to smoke it. When people start telling why I shouldn't I ask them questions about their choices. Oh so you have been married 3 times you look 40 lbs over weight. Oh you drink a bottle of wine a night Oh you don't live with or see your kids. Oh you didn't get a education. On and on rant over

Tony

 

[Blurgas]

It was in the local PV shop, maybe 18'x18'. 3 behind the counter vaping occasionally, myself vaping occasionally, and probably a few dozen customers coming in to get started on e-cigs in the 2 hour span I was there.
Each time a customer wanted an e-cig, the staff would go through the whole nine yards on how to work with the e-cig(all eGo-C tanks) and there was quite a bit of vaping going on(and much of that vaping was "wasted" vapes, as in took the drag but blew it out)
About 30 minutes before I left, I was starting to feel a bit sick to my stomach. At first I thought it was just from not having eaten recently. Eventually it got to the point I decided to head home in case I was going to start retching.

A half block out the door and several deep breaths later, I was starting to feel better. A block and a half after that I was no longer feeling ill.

The last time I felt even remotely like that was around 15 years ago when I'd smoked a half-pack within an hour.

Note my experience was in a small-ish shop that didn't have the best ventilation, not a convention.
Buzz, beginning of an overdose, whatever you wish to call it, but I was getting ill where the contributing factors were small, confined area, lots of vaping and poor ventilation

 

[zapped]

It was in the local PV shop, maybe 18'x18'. 3 behind the counter vaping occasionally, myself vaping occasionally, and probably a few dozen customers coming in to get started on e-cigs in the 2 hour span I was there.
Each time a customer wanted an e-cig, the staff would go through the whole nine yards on how to work with the e-cig(all eGo-C tanks) and there was quite a bit of vaping going on(and much of that vaping was "wasted" vapes, as in took the drag but blew it out)
About 30 minutes before I left, I was starting to feel a bit sick to my stomach. At first I thought it was just from not having eaten recently. Eventually it got to the point I decided to head home in case I was going to start retching.

A half block out the door and several deep breaths later, I was starting to feel better. A block and a half after that I was no longer feeling ill.

The last time I felt even remotely like that was around 15 years ago when I'd smoked a half-pack within an hour.

Note my experience was in a small-ish shop that didn't have the best ventilation, not a convention.
Buzz, beginning of an overdose, whatever you wish to call it, but I was getting ill where the contributing factors were small, confined area, lots of vaping and poor ventilation

Did you ever stop to consider maybe you were just vaping more than normal because you were in an e-cig shop with friends (only natural to show off a little bit) and thats what triggered it? These are the kinds of comments that the FDA and ANTZ love to get a hold of.

 

[Tonytiger1]

It was in the local PV shop, maybe 18'x18'. 3 behind the counter vaping occasionally, myself vaping occasionally, and probably a few dozen customers coming in to get started on e-cigs in the 2 hour span I was there.
Each time a customer wanted an e-cig, the staff would go through the whole nine yards on how to work with the e-cig(all eGo-C tanks) and there was quite a bit of vaping going on(and much of that vaping was "wasted" vapes, as in took the drag but blew it out)
About 30 minutes before I left, I was starting to feel a bit sick to my stomach. At first I thought it was just from not having eaten recently. Eventually it got to the point I decided to head home in case I was going to start retching.

A half block out the door and several deep breaths later, I was starting to feel better. A block and a half after that I was no longer feeling ill.

The last time I felt even remotely like that was around 15 years ago when I'd smoked a half-pack within an hour.

Note my experience was in a small-ish shop that didn't have the best ventilation, not a convention.
Buzz, beginning of an overdose, whatever you wish to call it, but I was getting ill where the contributing factors were small, confined area, lots of vaping and poor ventilation

I get sick from the pink fake sugar. But I'm a small group. So are you. Some people react poorly to nic. But the world doesn't revolve around just one person. People have Allergies to many things. Doesn't mean they need to be banned.


Tony

 

[Erncig]

I dont understand anything about good performing mini ecigs because they are non existant.

I know that I keep saying WHEN they do produce them they will be the future of vaping....

 

[jdrewry]

I know that I keep saying WHEN they do produce them they will be the future of vaping....

Curious:
why do you think it would be Big Tobacco that wants to make a good performing mini ecig? They've got their ultimate product (analogs) in the marketplace right now. If anything, they'll follow the "Microsoft" business model---they'll buy the best little e-cig currently out there, tinker with it a little, roll it out, and say, "Look what we've got". You want me to believe Big Tobacco would do anything like developing something for the good of their customers? They won't even tell you everything they put into analogs cigarettes now!

 

[Bizrad8381]

I know that I keep saying WHEN they do produce them they will be the future of vaping....

All I'm reading is that everyone wants a mini ecig, and you are wrong about that I will never use one again they are not practical to my application and I doubt they ever will be. Have your opinion but don't force it upon others.

 

[Erncig]

All I'm reading is that everyone wants a mini ecig, and you are wrong about that I will never use one again they are not practical to my application and I doubt they ever will be. Have your opinion but don't force it upon others.

You are reading what you want to in a tunnel vision state.

I said all smokers want a mini ecig.

The issue is you and many others here just cannot expand your minds enough to ever concieve a mini ecig functioning as well as the real thing.

I can.
Big tobbacco can too.
Everything points to them going down that direction.
Yet I'm wrong?

 

[jdrewry]

You are reading what you want to in a tunnel vision state.

I said all smokers want a mini ecig.

The issue is you and many others here just cannot expand your minds enough to ever concieve a mini ecig functioning as well as the real thing.

I can.
Big tobbacco can too.
Everything points to them going down that direction.
Yet I'm wrong?

Yes--you're wrong.
Smokers will keep smoking.
Those looking to quit don't know what they want. They may start out with a mini e-cig, or a Blu, or some other type of e-cig they can pick up in a moment of curiosity from that convenience store, but,given choices, many won't choose to stay with them. You'll have some, but not all.

 

[tgardner23]

Most of those buying cig-alikes try em once or twice, end up dissatisfied and throw em into a drawer somewhere and forget about em.[/QUOTE]

that is 100% true i have been to atleast 3 if not more peoples houses and asked if i could vape they said yes then i pull out my mod and they say holy hell that is crazy and they are blown away by how good it works. they then proceed to there junk drawer and pull out a blu ecig and say i tried this and it blows

 

[Bizrad8381]

I said all smokers want a mini ecig.

Again speaking for others.

 

[Erncig]

They may start out with a mini e-cig, or a Blu, or some other type of e-cig they can pick up in a moment of curiosity from that convenience store, but,given choices, many won't choose to stay with them. You'll have some, but not all.

No I'm not wrong. They begin with the minis because thats what they want an alternative to look like. They only move on because the minis arent good enough at this stage..

 

[Bizrad8381]

No I'm not wrong. They begin with the minis because thats what they want an alternative to look like. They only move on because the minis arent good enough at this stage..

I moved on from minis because I wanted to disassociate myself traditional cigarettes and wanted something that works.

 

[jdrewry]

No I'm not wrong. They begin with the minis because thats what they want an alternative to look like. They only move on because the minis arent good enough at this stage..

As long as their are choices, people will move on. I can guarantee you, the best mini e-cig, 10 years from now, will not be the captivating device you have built up in your mind. You're stuck on "style" over "substance".

 

[armchairnomad]

OP, Is it your opinion that this would do GOOD for the industry? Because my personal take on it is that once the big tobacco companies get into the game, they will contaminate the hell out of the eliquid to make it more addicting, just like they did with tobacco, and you'll be smoking arsenic and 4000 other poisons with your ecig. I'd rather not go into a store and buy my eliquid from Marlboro, and get it from independent manufacturers who supply to the hardware makers or directly to the consumer.

 

[armchairnomad]

And I do think the OP has a point about people not wanting to have to figure out ohms, mah, resistence, thread sizes, etc... People are lazy. I'm a pretty smart, technical person, and I've spent hours and hours the past couple weeks trying to figure out all this stuff. Most people are NOT going to spend the time doing this. It was mentioned that most people who try the mini's will quit because it won't deliver, and I would make the point that most people who have to figure all this stuff out are going to be so overwhelmed they may stick with analogs as well. Many of the people on this thread are enthusiasts, and not to be rude, but some of the responses have even been a bit pretentious.

Many people, including myself, LIKE having a small cig sized ecig that's easily carried around without having some large object protruding out of my pocket, or having to carry around a carrying case that's any bigger than a pack of cigarettes. I have a Blu at the moment, and wish I would have ordered something else after using it for a few months. I just realized that my Pulsar 7 herb vaporizer has a 510 threading, and have been using that at home with the blu cartos that I've been refilling, and plan on getting a clearomizer for it, however I don't want to carry that thing around with me, and prefer the mini's at work, bar, etc... I prefer to NOT have to explain to every single person that walks past me what I'm smoking as sometimes I just don't want all the attention it brings, and mini ecigs offer that convenience much easier than a large vape does.

However, just to clarify, to say what the OP said about "everyone wanting a mini ecig" is just closed minded and uninformed.

Just my two cents.

 

[Michael James]

Really makes you wonder. I can't even figure how it will be in just one year, since this market is movin' so damn fast !

At this point we're at kind of a peak as far as options go, really VW is the latest innovation, really anything new now is mainly cosmetic. I really don't see anything new come out as far as delivery after the ceramic wicks make it into production. Now I think it will start focusing more on streamlining what we have. Smaller devices that pack the same punch as the big mods. Just shrink em down as much as we can with what we have currently. There will still be big mods. But I think size will start to be the focus now.

 

[Carrielee]

It's also the truth.

People on this forum are not the mainstream.

...which is precisely why I am delighted to find it!

 

[gamadnechmad]

As I gaze into my crystal ball I see: More demand for ecigs, which will lead to mass production. We live in an age of instant gratification and a distinct lack of desire to have to think. Joe Public wants everything fast & easy (hey! stop that! you know what I mean! ).

The electronic cig market will have the easy cigalike (generic imported motorbike) in abundance and there will still be those who desire quality (custom Harley). Both markets will continue to grow. Neither faction will ever agree with the other. Whoever quits paper cigs - wins.

Same rule for me on this topic as most others: Don't deny me mine and I will not berate yours.

 

[Blurgas]

Did you ever stop to consider maybe you were just vaping more than normal because you were in an e-cig shop with friends (only natural to show off a little bit) and thats what triggered it? These are the kinds of comments that the FDA and ANTZ love to get a hold of.

Actually I wasn't with friends. I'm friendly with the staff at that shop, but I don't interact with them outside of it, and I noted I wasn't vaping as much as if I were at home.
I'm just saying there's been 2 instances where I ended up with too much nicotine in my system, one instance occuring long before e-cigs were introduced

Also, I probably should have added a "" after my 'not too mainstream' comment as I wasn't very serious about it. I really do hope people pull their heads out of their collective rumps in regards to e-cigs as these bits of tech are infinitely better than the coffin nails we were on before.