For those interested... Stormy has the large SS tank for the Term C available.
Large Steel Tank for Terminators
Large Steel Tank for Terminators
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Yeah, it replaces the smaller SS tank (just ordered one) and the clear.
BTW, my Ithafun is now rigged for 5ml of love.
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OK, I'm in a bind..
New ithaka arrived the other day, as well as some XC116. I immediately cleaned the new ithaka and spent the next hour or so getting the Vochu-mod/naughtyfun installed. I then made a "lazy-S" wick with the XC, (an inch or so), with a simple horizontal coil. From that point forward, it leaked everywhere. Out the airhole in particular. Gurgling and "wet draw". Empirical testing indicated that with juice closed, only the trapped juice would leak. Emptied and sealed with water, it could sit in any attitude - vertical, inverted, horizontal - without a leak. Once you open the juice valve, the leak would immediately begin again.
Now, the OTHER ithafun was examined - and opening it finally shredded the extant butterfly-wick. This had been working absolutely wonderful for about 2 weeks. So, I threaded some XC here as well: another lazy-S. All the problems of the new Ithafun were now repeated in the older RH Ithafun that had been working well.
OK, back to the new Ithafun: rigged a very small, tight verticoil (just like in my 91%), and added cotton, (again, like the 91%). The gurgle is more muted, but still there. The leak is far, far less - but periodically I'll get spew from the airslot.
Originally, my theory was that the XC was wicking too fast from the tank, and condensation was overflowing. However, now it seems more like there is something allowing excess fluid flow.
I'm going to continue with the verticoiled Ithafun today, (it seems it's the Tobeco product, but it's lovely), and see if it's simply the valve is ultrasensitive - but I would love to hear from those that have already run into this issue. I've already vaselined ALL orings, and now I am just confused.
addendum:
I've been running around an hour or so, and I've had only one drop out the airslot since posting above. Same verticoil/cotton in Ithafun#2. The RH Ithafun with open valves has been sitting on the counter, full of water, and not dripped a bit since the post. Even drawing on it has not started the leak. I find this all positive, by darned mysterious.
another addendum
Been several more hours with the tobeco-based Ithafun. No more leaks have occured, and the flavor has finally emerged. Makes me think the o-rings are finally working, and the cotton has 'broken in'. The RH ithafun sits on the kitchen sink, inverted, without a leak as well. I'll flip it rightside up and leave it overnight, refilling it tomorrow with the juice I made tonight. (Real Cig+ Hangsen turkish; Parliment+Westen)
Next Day:
I am going to guess that the orings finally decided to work, because both Ithafuns are now happily vaping and leak-free. Periodically, I still get a drop or so out the airflow overnight - with the valve closed - which I must presume is from condensation or excess fluid somewhere in the airflow system. And, in filling the RH Ithafun, (with juice valve closed), it did pee at least 2 ml as I was screwing down the cap. (I presume there was a way for pressure to reach the airhole, even with the chimney screwed shut).
Conclusion:
Ithafun#2 (tobeco) started to gurgle. With the juice-valve closed, I managed to blow the entire 4ml into a towel. Further examination showed that the autofeeds were never sealed, no matter the extra Orings and plastic tube. I got irked and mixed some epoxy-putty, filling both and reassembling. This held water for hours, and I refilled it with juice and vaped w/o any further ado.
Watch your coil-diameter, if you use a verticoil: I had used a 1mm ball-driver, and with cotton, this sealed so well that the draw was incredibly tight. I yanked the wick and coil, used a premade NR of 1.2ohm and a 2mm balldriver, rewound cotton on it, and it's drawing fine again. Apparently, the wisps of cotton become airtight once wetted, so no extra airflow will come up, around and outside the cotton shrouding the outside of the coil.
New ithaka arrived the other day, as well as some XC116. I immediately cleaned the new ithaka and spent the next hour or so getting the Vochu-mod/naughtyfun installed. I then made a "lazy-S" wick with the XC, (an inch or so), with a simple horizontal coil. From that point forward, it leaked everywhere. Out the airhole in particular. Gurgling and "wet draw". Empirical testing indicated that with juice closed, only the trapped juice would leak. Emptied and sealed with water, it could sit in any attitude - vertical, inverted, horizontal - without a leak. Once you open the juice valve, the leak would immediately begin again.
Now, the OTHER ithafun was examined - and opening it finally shredded the extant butterfly-wick. This had been working absolutely wonderful for about 2 weeks. So, I threaded some XC here as well: another lazy-S. All the problems of the new Ithafun were now repeated in the older RH Ithafun that had been working well.
OK, back to the new Ithafun: rigged a very small, tight verticoil (just like in my 91%), and added cotton, (again, like the 91%). The gurgle is more muted, but still there. The leak is far, far less - but periodically I'll get spew from the airslot.
Originally, my theory was that the XC was wicking too fast from the tank, and condensation was overflowing. However, now it seems more like there is something allowing excess fluid flow.
I'm going to continue with the verticoiled Ithafun today, (it seems it's the Tobeco product, but it's lovely), and see if it's simply the valve is ultrasensitive - but I would love to hear from those that have already run into this issue. I've already vaselined ALL orings, and now I am just confused.
addendum:
I've been running around an hour or so, and I've had only one drop out the airslot since posting above. Same verticoil/cotton in Ithafun#2. The RH Ithafun with open valves has been sitting on the counter, full of water, and not dripped a bit since the post. Even drawing on it has not started the leak. I find this all positive, by darned mysterious.
another addendum
Been several more hours with the tobeco-based Ithafun. No more leaks have occured, and the flavor has finally emerged. Makes me think the o-rings are finally working, and the cotton has 'broken in'. The RH ithafun sits on the kitchen sink, inverted, without a leak as well. I'll flip it rightside up and leave it overnight, refilling it tomorrow with the juice I made tonight. (Real Cig+ Hangsen turkish; Parliment+Westen)
Next Day:
I am going to guess that the orings finally decided to work, because both Ithafuns are now happily vaping and leak-free. Periodically, I still get a drop or so out the airflow overnight - with the valve closed - which I must presume is from condensation or excess fluid somewhere in the airflow system. And, in filling the RH Ithafun, (with juice valve closed), it did pee at least 2 ml as I was screwing down the cap. (I presume there was a way for pressure to reach the airhole, even with the chimney screwed shut).
Conclusion:
Ithafun#2 (tobeco) started to gurgle. With the juice-valve closed, I managed to blow the entire 4ml into a towel. Further examination showed that the autofeeds were never sealed, no matter the extra Orings and plastic tube. I got irked and mixed some epoxy-putty, filling both and reassembling. This held water for hours, and I refilled it with juice and vaped w/o any further ado.
Watch your coil-diameter, if you use a verticoil: I had used a 1mm ball-driver, and with cotton, this sealed so well that the draw was incredibly tight. I yanked the wick and coil, used a premade NR of 1.2ohm and a 2mm balldriver, rewound cotton on it, and it's drawing fine again. Apparently, the wisps of cotton become airtight once wetted, so no extra airflow will come up, around and outside the cotton shrouding the outside of the coil.
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Can anyone assist me with answering a question i have? I ordered the kit from vapor freak and its on its way. I have both a Term C and a Hercules - Will the kit fit them both to work in 510 mode? Or does it only work in the Term C in 510 mode? I understand the Herc needs to be extended. I currently only own a aluminium ggts and it kinda gets off balance with stainless steal tops on them so i prefer not to use it. I do however have a ssggts on its way. Thanks for any help you can provide.
it works with both, a small screw that's included is put into the end of the center pin to extend it's length for Ithaka. and a tank section is needed for Ithaka as you stated.
@ Innocuous, I have another kit coming along with a Herc. I'm going to build it using another Term-C but I may convert the Herc temporally to see how that's done.
Well, for some reason it went easier on the RH Hercules. By now, both the RH and Tobeco ithaka's are vaping fine. With the Tobeco, I had to pull the desk-isolator out for airflow, and of course both use the smallest oring, screw and a bit of plastic-tube to guide and center pos-pin. Indeed, the Vochu-supplied parts to seal the autofeed just failed to work on the Tobeco, but epoxy-putty resolved the feed-slots.
I'm done with the term-c: tanks are too pricy and the airflow gets chopped when I flush-mount to a mech. All those parts are boxed up, now.
As rigged, I can now basically lung-draw the 91%, RH Ithafun and Tobeco ithafun.. I'm not overly excited by the XC116 in the RH, however. Indeed, the butterfly/figure-eight in silica had the best flavor (in the RH), but currently I am using cotton and verticoils in the Tobeco Ithafun and the 91% with great success. (Aside: insure your verticoil ID is at least that of the airhole, because once the cotton is wafted around the coil and wetted, it will create a gas-seal. Subsized coils will restrict the draw horrifically.)
I'm done with the term-c: tanks are too pricy and the airflow gets chopped when I flush-mount to a mech. All those parts are boxed up, now.
As rigged, I can now basically lung-draw the 91%, RH Ithafun and Tobeco ithafun.. I'm not overly excited by the XC116 in the RH, however. Indeed, the butterfly/figure-eight in silica had the best flavor (in the RH), but currently I am using cotton and verticoils in the Tobeco Ithafun and the 91% with great success. (Aside: insure your verticoil ID is at least that of the airhole, because once the cotton is wafted around the coil and wetted, it will create a gas-seal. Subsized coils will restrict the draw horrifically.)
I bought a second kit from the classifieds, it came with a Hercules but I put it in a Terminator. I used a cutoff wheel in a Dremel to cut down a carto tube for use with the drip tip mouthpiece because of the added length created by the 27 mm clear tank section.
Next to it is my $29 FT Nemesis sporting a $21 FT K clone (for size comparision)
A small but important observation, just as with the Terminator that top o-ring starts having trouble doing it's job as the tanks get taller, but of coarse I guess.
Next to it is my $29 FT Nemesis sporting a $21 FT K clone (for size comparision)
A small but important observation, just as with the Terminator that top o-ring starts having trouble doing it's job as the tanks get taller, but of coarse I guess.
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GGTS base for Terminator is now sold here
https://www.vapor-freak.de/zubehoer/Nautilus-V2-SW/Nautilus-GG-Base
https://www.vapor-freak.de/zubehoer/Nautilus-V2-SW/Nautilus-GG-Base
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I just ordered two 23 mm clear windows for a Terminator from Stormy's, one to replace the Herc bottom ring and window on my second one and one to add to the Terminator steel tank section that's that's included in my 3rd package that's coming.
Mine are Term-C conversions (or soon to be)
Mine are Term-C conversions (or soon to be)
@Innocuous, If you're looking for an all SS tank, I believe Stormy's new "large" steel Terminator tank would suffice to replace all the Herc tanks sections for a seamless look. Maybe the mouthpiece length would need to be considered, however.
Yeah, I just ordered one yesterday - they are quite pricy - and ithafun#2 can rely on the other parts for now. Piecemealing these into solid SS is getting bloody expensive.
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No farm was mortgaged to obtain these.
No farm was mortgaged to obtain these.
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