The Lemo RTA: A Build With Pics
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I've noticed the same thing. My Lemo tends to settle downwards when I put in a new build and it was frustrating trying to chase down the ohms-ghosts when I was trying to troubleshoot my first handful of Ni200 coils. My new AquaV2 on the other hand tends to settle up.
I tell you what though, this little Aqua clone I picked up rocks. I've been using it as just a dripper and it rips my Lemo apart in the flavor department. I enjoy working with my Lemo, and for ease of build and convenience the Lemo just flat out wins - getting a dual-coil Ni200 build on the Aqua can be a real pain in the ..... But when it's done right the Aqua just produces a denser and moister vape with intense flavor with all the cloud you can handle. My Lemo on the other hand, can produce the same amount of cloud, but it always feel dry and ever-so-slightly harsh to me with muted flavor even when I close down the AFC. (Benchmarking against a nautilus with a fresh coil). Seeing as I'm building both with the same Ni200 and cotton and running both on the same mod, I'm running out of reasons to explain why.
Edit: the point of this post is to see if anyone else has similar experience and that's just the way it is with the Lemo or if maybe there's a different configuration I should try. Not here to bash anything. Right now the build I'm running is a .16ohm twisted 30awg Ni200 spaced coil on an rDNA vaping at 17-20W, TC set at 410-420. The Aqua build I'm digging on is a .11ohm dual coil 30awg Ni200 spaced coil running around 25-30W, TC still set at 410-420.
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Lemo Drop continues to impress me. Ive built various coils and wicked it new ways with Rayon, and Lemo delivers unparalleled experience like no other.
Im an ADD, OCD, ABC and XYZ, nitpicker, and i cant find a single thing to complain about Lemo Drop.
Every time i seek for imperfections in Lemo tank, im frequently reminded by my friend how often his kayfun tanks leak.
Im an ADD, OCD, ABC and XYZ, nitpicker, and i cant find a single thing to complain about Lemo Drop.
Every time i seek for imperfections in Lemo tank, im frequently reminded by my friend how often his kayfun tanks leak.
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Your friend just needs to learn how to build/wick a Kayfun... They're leak/bomb-proof when set-up properly.
But seriously... the Lemo is a great little tank... esp. the Drop. After all, it is basically a Kayfun
Lemon? Heheheh
I remove all o rings
Then soak them in dishwashing soak + boiling water for 15 mins.
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My wallet hates me.
I wanted to try some new tanks ... bought a Delta II, Subtank, and Subtank Mini.
I tried all kinds of different builds on all of them over the last several days, and put my Lemos aside. Used the RBA section on all three with Ni200. I did variations of my standard Lemo build (typically 8 evenly spaced 30awg wraps on a left-hand-thread M4 screw, ~3.2mm ID, .19ohm wicked with KGD cotton). All three could chuck clouds like no other and keep up at up to 25 watts and above, especially when thinning out the cotton. No leaking, atomizers performed OK with a few frustrations, including:
Regardless - the problem: None of them compare to the flavor the Lemo produces. I don't know what it is, and I don't know how else to describe it other than my two go-to flavors were muted in all three at all different wattages and coil configurations. I finally pulled out one of my Lemos today after getting frustrated with these new tanks... put my standard build in it with one of the same go-to flavors and the flavor completely blows away any of these new RTAs. If I had no choice and had to use one of these thanks, it would be the large 25mm original Subtank... while still muted compared to the Lemo, the flavor was marginally better in this one.
I can't go as high of wattage with the Lemo (19watts and above hits TP pretty quickly @410F, stock airflow with ring removed). I don't care. These Lemos still produce thick clouds at 16+ and the flavor is simply outstanding in comparison.
I think we're truly spoiled with these tanks. In my opinion, the Lemo is still the RTA to beat... hands down. Shame on me for ever doubting that. Sorry wallet.
I wanted to try some new tanks ... bought a Delta II, Subtank, and Subtank Mini.
I tried all kinds of different builds on all of them over the last several days, and put my Lemos aside. Used the RBA section on all three with Ni200. I did variations of my standard Lemo build (typically 8 evenly spaced 30awg wraps on a left-hand-thread M4 screw, ~3.2mm ID, .19ohm wicked with KGD cotton). All three could chuck clouds like no other and keep up at up to 25 watts and above, especially when thinning out the cotton. No leaking, atomizers performed OK with a few frustrations, including:
- All three: 510 inner pin is floating/held in place with a grommet. All of them needed a little work to get a solid connection for the DNA40 and even then they still bounced around a bit.
- The Delta II seems almost disposable to me. No replaceable parts; once the O-rings go bad I don't see any easy way of replacing them. Difficult to clean because nothing comes apart.
- On the Subtank and Subtank Mini: It took a ridiculous amount of cleaning to get the machine oil smell off of them. Delta II was clean.
Regardless - the problem: None of them compare to the flavor the Lemo produces. I don't know what it is, and I don't know how else to describe it other than my two go-to flavors were muted in all three at all different wattages and coil configurations. I finally pulled out one of my Lemos today after getting frustrated with these new tanks... put my standard build in it with one of the same go-to flavors and the flavor completely blows away any of these new RTAs. If I had no choice and had to use one of these thanks, it would be the large 25mm original Subtank... while still muted compared to the Lemo, the flavor was marginally better in this one.
I can't go as high of wattage with the Lemo (19watts and above hits TP pretty quickly @410F, stock airflow with ring removed). I don't care. These Lemos still produce thick clouds at 16+ and the flavor is simply outstanding in comparison.
I think we're truly spoiled with these tanks. In my opinion, the Lemo is still the RTA to beat... hands down. Shame on me for ever doubting that. Sorry wallet.
The Aqua V2 and Lemo/Lemo Drop are all I need. My Kayfun V4 Tobeco is fine but after 4 tanks it started leaking out of the 510. So now I have to troubleshoot it and replace orings etc. The Lemo just works and works very well right out of the box. Don't think I'm going to buy anything except more Lemos and Aqua V2s for the forseeable future and I'll be completely satisfied.
I've been wanting the sub-mini just for the plug-n-play to compare to the Atlantis. Like that the sub now has ni coils as well. I'm also pretty sure my Lemos are safe with their spot in the rotation!!
While I find many favorable features with my Subtank Mini, I totally agree. When compared to the Lemo, the flavor is muted despite several different builds.
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I am with you on that, just ordered two more Aqua v2 today. Retiring a KFL and my full size Lemo is going on standby. I will have 3 Aqua v2 and 2 Lemo drops in my rotation.
I'm at a loss here.
I've been able to build my Lemo's without much difficulty over the past month or so, but the last few days have posed a problem.
I seem to be suffering a vacuum issue with my last build, and it's driving me crazy.
No bubbles, and dry hits constantly. The only thing different lately is my juice, which is lower VG. I've about giving up trying to vape anything past 70.
Vaping at 30w, I have to prime heavily every few hits. It doesn't seem like anything is feeding the wick.
I built a .7 ohm single coil, 3 mm I.D., 7 wrap 24g.
Wicked as usual. 1cm strip of KGD, tails trimmed to the chimney top, tucked to the deck and cleared the juice channels.
If y'all want a better/different picture, lemme know.
I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. It doesn't feel like too much wick, i'm not packing it in. It just barely touches the deck.
I haven't had this issue at all before, although I've built this same build several times without issue.
Any suggestions?
I've been able to build my Lemo's without much difficulty over the past month or so, but the last few days have posed a problem.
I seem to be suffering a vacuum issue with my last build, and it's driving me crazy.
No bubbles, and dry hits constantly. The only thing different lately is my juice, which is lower VG. I've about giving up trying to vape anything past 70.
Vaping at 30w, I have to prime heavily every few hits. It doesn't seem like anything is feeding the wick.
I built a .7 ohm single coil, 3 mm I.D., 7 wrap 24g.
Wicked as usual. 1cm strip of KGD, tails trimmed to the chimney top, tucked to the deck and cleared the juice channels.
If y'all want a better/different picture, lemme know.
I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. It doesn't feel like too much wick, i'm not packing it in. It just barely touches the deck.
I haven't had this issue at all before, although I've built this same build several times without issue.
Any suggestions?
Have you tried using more wick? I have a buttload more on my deck than that.
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Yes, the OTM clone from FT. I wasn't going to answer cause I don't want a clone vs. authentic debate to take off (not that you are trying to start one but that's how the intrawebs work sometimes) but didn't want to just ignore you either.
Yup. That was one of the first things I tried.
Same issue.
I typically wick like this, and it's worked well in the past. There's actually more wick in the than it looks like. It expands a bunch when the tank's filled.
I'm up for trying it again, anything to make this work. You mind taking a picture of your deck when you get a chance?
I'm pretty visual, it may help me a bit.
Your friend just needs to learn how to build/wick a Kayfun... They're leak/bomb-proof when set-up properly.
But seriously... the Lemo is a great little tank... esp. the Drop. After all, it is basically a Kayfun
My friend got me in to vaping and has been vaping for over a year before i started. He has had almost every RDA and RTA there is, but hes been having issues with Kayfun Bell Cap. I did give him few pointers from what i have learned here in the forums to "reduce" leakage, but he still gets random leaks from Bell Cap.
Had my co-worker take a hit of my Lemo. Hes been smoking for over 20 years, and even though i had about 2mg nic juice mixed with other juices, he still coughed like it was his first time smoking/ vaping. But he loved the juice flavor (Ripe Vapes) mixed with a dash of VapeJoose with Nic. Had to give him a crash course what vaping is and the benefits of not smoking. On the plus side, he rides a bicycle to work every day, even in the middle of the winter.
This weekend i will have my boss go at vaping and see if i can turn him to the dark side of vaping. He is in his 60s and still smokes Marlboro Reds.
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My suggestion is to move the wick closer to the juice channels. Im thinking that wick is not getting juiced fast enough do to being too far from "watering" source (juice channels).
What i like to do, is turn top cap half a turn now and then counter clockwise, this allows the juice to flow and i get big air bubbles in my tank. I do this 3-4 times, one after another, and i get large airbubles.
I only use 24gauge wire, and it has a habit of consuming juice at a very high rate. Navy Nest with 24g coils has eliminated dry hits. I can vape close to 50w. But my tank is moded for more air flow, so your results may vary.
My set up; 24g, 7 wraps spaced, 3mm, vaping at 24w. Juices; 50/50. 70vg/30 and Max VG.
Navy Nest is time consuming, but when you get it right, its worse it.
The benefit of Navy Nest, is i can get 6-8 hard lung hits even when the tank is bone dry.
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