The Name Should Have Been Changed A Long Time Ago

[Rule62]

There were a few people, many years ago, that thought motorcycles should be called 'enginecycles', because by definition, they are not powered by a motor. They are powered by an engine.
That didn't get too far either.

 

[inspects]

I believe the the vaping community should have never let the electronic cigarette name stick. In my opinion this is why the Government is calling vaping a time tobacco product. Where is " e-liquid " a tobacco product ? Except for the nicotine , but caffeine is in soda and soda is not considered Coffee . I just stopped Stinky cigarettes for couple weeks and it's because of vaping that I was able to quit . Nothing else I tried helped me . I'm just so nervous now that I'm enjoying my taste and smell coming back and my breathing getting better day after day , thus wonderful alternative is going to be taken away because our Government and Big Tobacco need people to get sick and die for population control and money . My response emails from joining CASAA.org all these senators and representatives consider Vaping a tobacco product and if we as a community can change or make them understand that it's not tobacco things might be easier for us to keep Vaping with no worries. I apologize for the rant but I feel Vaping is saving me and will save me if I'm able to continue to do so .
Thank You.

I've often wondered the SAME thing....should have changed the name of our method to stop smoking to Vaping years ago.

Get the CIG word out of the equation.

 

[David Wolf]

Exactly my point .... !!!

I simply call it vaping when I talk to people who ask aboutt it and call my gear a vaporizer. Nobody I know who Vapes at work calls a mod and tank an "e-cig" that's reserved for those little cigalikes at the gas station.

 

[David Wolf]

Asked, answered, the topic is dead.

Answered? Maybe we don't like someone's answer
Topics alive and kicking

 

[AndriaD]

I believe the the Vaping community should have never let the electronic cigarette name stick. In my opinion this is why the Government is calling Vaping a time tobacco product. Where is " e-liquid " a tobacco product ? Except for the nicotine , but caffeine is in soda and soda is not considered Coffee . I just stopped Stinky cigarettes for couple weeks and it's because of Vaping that I was able to quit . Nothing else I tried helped me . I'm just so nervous now that I'm enjoying my taste and smell coming back and my breathing getting better day after day , thus wonderful alternative is going to be taken away because our Government and Big Tobacco need people to get sick and die for population control and money . My response emails from joining CASAA.org all these senators and representatives consider Vaping a tobacco product and if we as a community can change or make them understand that it's not tobacco things might be easier for us to keep Vaping with no worries. I apologize for the rant but I feel Vaping is saving me and will save me if I'm able to continue to do so .
Thank You.

Posted by me in the Junk science study and mass media make huge leap to claim e-cigs just as toxic as cigarettes thread...

I've thought all along that BT is very far from our worst enemy in this fight, and in fact their interest in the whole affair is a great deal more "pure" and honest than any of the others' -- they're a business competitor, a completely above-board relationship, unlike the incest and corruption between big gov't, all the "charitable" orgs, BP, and all the paid-for idiots like Glantz and that guy in Australia. I really don't have a problem with BT; I used their products voluntarily, if addictedly, for many years until I found something better -- the fact that it really is better in all possible ways is precisely why they're getting into the e-cig business themselves.

Really I think they have good reason to help us fight vaping being considered a "tobacco product" -- that little thing called the MSA? If vaping products are tobacco products, then BT stands a real risk of having to continue those extortion payments indefinitely; if vaping is not "tobacco product," then they stand a good chance of seeing the end of those payments not too far into the future.

Andria

Say whatever you like about the gov't, BP, and all the nannies, but our enemy is really NOT BT.

Andria

 

[Izan]

When TSA asks what it is...Best to say "E-cigarette"
When the state trooper asks what it is...Best to say "E-cigarette"
When you ask the bar/club manager if you can use it...Best to say "E-cigarette"

YMMV

Cheers
I

 

[Rizzyking]

In the UK how bad things get depend on two things 1, how the government interprets the tpd and 2, if they enforce it in practical terms and we won't really know for sure till it hits. I'm stocking up on nic base as I have zero faith in any politicians anymore.

 

[EBates]

It ain't the name, it's the MONEY.

 

[BreSha6869]

I call my mods "vapes" but just out of habit.

I should figure out a new name as the other kind of "vape" is much more popular in my area and people may think I am doing the other.

 

[smacuser]

I say it's my "rig" and "juice".

Then, I pull out my zipper pouch containing my cotton, tweezers, scissors, spoon, wire and other assorted 'goodies".

 

[Rizzyking]

I call it an ecig that term is more understood by most and to be honest I don't think what we call things makes any difference whatsoever but unlike some im not trying to distance myself from smoking if it hadn't been for the health impacts I'd still be smoking. I have no problem with calling them ecigs and I really don't think that term has caused anymore trouble then any other term would have done.

 

[Rule62]

It depends where I am, and who I'm talking to.if it's the TSA guy at the airport, asking me what thing is in my carry on, it's an E-cig. If I'm in a vape shop, talking to other vapers, it's a Reo. If I'm being asked about it by a stranger, I may say e-cig or mod, followed by more explanation, if they seem interested at all, especially if they are a smoker.

 

[Nimaz]

My vape gears don't like cigarettes anymore... The first I tried had these colored light at the end of the stick, which indeed looked like electronic cigarettes... I am evolving away from the cigarettes with vaping and calling my gears electronic cigarettes is not a fit at all, almost an insult...

 

[crxess]

Think I'm going to start calling mine - Nunya

 

[mountaingal]

I call it my vaping thingy.

 

[anavidfan]

trying to change the name now would be like trying to change people from calling the thing they drive around an automobile instead of car.

"Car" came from carriage, which would more accurately be internal combustion driven horseless carriage.

Logically the average person at the time did not know what "internal combustion" meant etc. Like most people if one used the term inter.... most people would go blank, so they used horseless carriage and then "car" to distinguish.

When I started using a personal vaporizer/ PV most people associated a vaporizer with those Vicks big ole plastic things filled with water and vaporub when one had a cold or those familiar with medical things thought of breathing aids.

So you see, we ( most people) dont like to explain over and over and use terms that are easy for the average person to understand what one is talking about.

E-cigarette is what someone that is not familiar with something that one is inhaling something out of that is not a cigarette. Just easier ..... became a habit. Media also found it better to market an e-cig than marketing your P. E. etc.....

So like others have said, even if it became popular to call it the non-tobacco , not smoking thingy, it would still not change the fact that its a device that lets off something "smoke-like" and it contains evil nicotine....

 

[AndriaD]

trying to change the name now would be like trying to change people from calling the thing they drive around an automobile instead of car.

"Car" came from carriage, which would more accurately be internal combustion driven horseless carriage.

Logically the average person at the time did not know what "internal combustion" meant etc. Like most people if one used the term inter.... most people would go blank, so they used horseless carriage and then "car" to distinguish.

When I started using a personal vaporizer/ PV most people associated a vaporizer with those Vicks big ole plastic things filled with water and vaporub when one had a cold or those familiar with medical things thought of breathing aids.

So you see, we ( most people) dont like to explain over and over and use terms that are easy for the average person to understand what one is talking about.

E-cigarette is what someone that is not familiar with something that one is inhaling something out of that is not a cigarette. Just easier ..... became a habit. Media also found it better to market an e-cig than marketing your P. E. etc.....

So like others have said, even if it became popular to call it the non-tobacco , not smoking thingy, it would still not change the fact that its a device that lets off something "smoke-like" and it contains evil nicotine....

Yes, to all of that! In fact, I do use the term "e-cigarette," but rather than saying that is what it IS, I say "It's like an e-cigarette, just bigger and better!" If they have ANY interest at all, that will often pique their curiosity so they ask "Really, how's it better?" and I can then explain it to them; the bigger battery, the bigger tank, etc. A lot of folks down here still smoke, so even if the person I'm talking to isn't a smoker, one of their family or friends probably is, or even their spouse -- I've gotten a lot of "I wish my husband/wife would use that instead of smoking!" It's a good way to plant a seed of awareness in the totally unsuspecting.

Andria

 

[KayP]

It is just semantics now. One should focus on the fact that it poses threat to the "Big Tobacco". Whilst governments do appear to show hard policies on cigarettes, the Big Tobacco are still allowed to sell their products and continue making their profits. To presume they NO longer have any persuasion over politicians would a mistake. That is my 2 cents. I actually do prefer to stay out of politics or else I start feeling dirty

 

[Spencer87]

The name has no bearing on why the government is targeting vaping.

Its a guise
The governement is targeting vaping because its quickly taking earning potential away from the government. The government must kill it.

 

[ScottP]

Of all the dead horses that people like to beat, this one is both the most dead and the most beaten. It is way passed too late to change it.