The Overlooked Tootle Puffer Gear Thread

[roxynoodle]

This is true that I have a lot of time these days due to pancreatitis. And needed a new hobby. Prior to my debilitating disease, to say I was busy was an understatment. I taught high school math full time and college part time. Teaching math means writing complex lesson plans daily, creating quizzes, tests and worksheets. Grading quizzes and tests. It was a rare day indeed if I wasn't preparing for my classes in some way when I was home. I also trained horses and competed in eventing, remodeled my old farm house and took care of many animals. And once had a husband (let's call him a large child) and other romantic relationships/social life.

So how would vaping have worked into that schedule? I would probably want tanks that were easy to care for and had large capacity mostly. One thing I looked at though was the amount of time "wasted" smoking. I only smoked outside due to the animals. So let's say 16 cigs a day × 6 minutes each = 96 minutes per day. An hour and a half! During warm weather I would weed the gardens while I was outside smoking. In the winter I wasted more time because I had to put on coats, boots, gloves, etc. So could I have cared for my tanks in that hour and a half I spent smoking every day? Certainly.

Of course some of those cigs were smoked commuting to and from work. Or while mowing and other activities. But, that was a pretty good chunk of time in my day feeding my tobacco addiction

I'm pretty sure I still would have gone the RBA route due to my problems with factory coils croaking, but I don't really know for sure.

 

[Darkstarncw]

I need a thesaurus to even know what you're talking about!

Anyone seen my blister-pack?

Or my Clapton records?

No Dwayne, but good lord this album never leaves my rotation.

 

[Oregon Linda]

I think there are 2 reasons why I've become so interested in RTAs. One is definitely FDA proofing my vaping. I want to be so well stocked that whatever the FDA, state government, etc., do is irrelevant to me. That's why I have a freezer full of nicotine and a vapocalypse box full of various mods that use external batteries.

It's in the toppers I don't feel quite as secure. My favored clearomizer is the GS Air and I have enough old coils that I could probably rebuild them for a long time. But getting parts for the clearomizer itself is another story, and since it is not stainless steel, the threads do eventually wear out. I now have several RTAs and have been pleased to find that I can find parts for all of them at Fasttech. They are all stainless steel, so they should last for a much longer time than my GS Airs.

The other big reason for me is the ability to fine tune the RTA to vape exactly how I want it to. I can put all kinds of different builds on an RTA. Even if you rebuild factory coils for a clearomizer, you really can't radically change those tiny coils all that much.

One strange thing I'm noticing from using RTAs a few weeks is that I am suddenly having to drop my nicotine level. Since I was already down to 3mg, that really surprised me. Oh, well - my freezer stock will last even longer now.

 

[roxynoodle]

I started watching a review of the new UD Bellus (until my bird turned it off, lol!). I mistakenly thought this was meant to be a high power cloud RTA. The reviewer said it vapes well in that way, but also single coil and m2l, hmm. If its that versatile, I may get one. I hadn't been that interested as I had chalked it up as a copy of the Aromamizer, but the fact that it can be built different ways changes things. Its also inexpensive, $22 or so on preorder. And holds 5ml so built single coil, should go awhile between refills.

I have a Goblin Mini on the way that can be single or dual so I'll let you know if the airflow can be tightened down for m2l. When I saw it on clearance for $10 I bought it.

 

[AndriaD]

I started watching a review of the new UD Bellus (until my bird turned it off, lol!). I mistakenly thought this was meant to be a high power cloud RTA. The reviewer said it vapes well in that way, but also single coil and m2l, hmm. If its that versatile, I may get one. I hadn't been that interested as I had chalked it up as a copy of the Aromamizer, but the fact that it can be built different ways changes things. Its also inexpensive, $22 or so on preorder. And holds 5ml so built single coil, should go awhile between refills.

I have a Goblin Mini on the way that can be single or dual so I'll let you know if the airflow can be tightened down for m2l. When I saw it on clearance for $10 I bought it.

Definitely let us tootlers know about the MtL on that Bellus; I'm not at all opposed to trying out new RDAs, *IF* the airflow can be made really tight. I've now got 3 RDAs that are utterly useless to me -- Caterpillar, Veritas, and Derringer. But they were all so cheap, no way to sell 'em unless I just make it a bundle of all 3. But all 3 use o-rings, and in the entire collection of o-rings in little cello bags I've got, I have no earthly idea which ones go with what RDA. Maybe I'll just toss into "metal scrap" to take to the recyclers!

Andria

 

[Skitterpop]

Since I started down the RTA road I have only used Kayfun lite plus V2's (have 7 of them). I bought a Squape r after reading how great they are and while that may be true it does not work for me. That brings me to my question I am looking at the HOTCIG GT-S V2 RTA, will the air flow on this be similar to my air screw removed kayfuns?

 

[Krisma]

Definitely let us tootlers know about the MtL on that Bellus; I'm not at all opposed to trying out new RDAs, *IF* the airflow can be made really tight. I've now got 3 RDAs that are utterly useless to me -- Caterpillar, Veritas, and Derringer. But they were all so cheap, no way to sell 'em unless I just make it a bundle of all 3. But all 3 use o-rings, and in the entire collection of o-rings in little cello bags I've got, I have no earthly idea which ones go with what RDA. Maybe I'll just toss into "metal scrap" to take to the recyclers!

Andria

There should be a recycling or PIF scheme at local B&M shops. Then you could drop them off for other to try

This is my fourth go at this post.......who keeps breaking ECF

 

[zapped]

I just don't have the knack, Oregon lol..all the YT videos in the world can't save me! And I wasted a ton of juice! And ! RTA tanks go for like $25-$45 each, so there's that, too. I'm not knocking people who love RTAs. But they're not for everybody, and the market underserves those who don't care to use them.

(Tootle puffing is for factory built heads. Modwompers build their own lol...I totally disagree on RTAs being Tootle gear.)

You should look into carto tanks if flavor is important to you.

Ive yet to find a clearo that comes anywhere close to one in terms of flavor.

And as far as convenience goes, theres a bit more of a learning curve to them but they offer a lot of the same benefits people experience with clearo tanks....ease of use, easy filling etc.

If youre interested, look up Baditude. He has an excellent setup guide in his blog.

 

[roxynoodle]

Since I started down the RTA road I have only used Kayfun lite plus V2's (have 7 of them). I bought a Squape r after reading how great they are and while that may be true it does not work for me. That brings me to my question I am looking at the HOTCIG GT-S V2 RTA, will the air flow on this be similar to my air screw removed kayfuns?

I would ask in the Taifun Discussion thread in the RTA area. That one is pretty popular among members here so I'm sure someone could tell you about it.

 

[AndriaD]

There should be a recycling or PIF scheme at local B&M shops. Then you could drop them off for other to try

This is my fourth go at this post.......who keeps breaking ECF

I've even considered posting them in the PIF thread... but I really don't want to pay postage just to give away something. Actually I've got quite a lot of stuff I could PIF -- a half dozen T3S/MT3S tanks, and even a couple "store bought" coils for them, an ARO Pyrex, an ARO Winder... but again, don't wanna pay postage to give stuff away.

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

You should look into carto tanks if flavor is important to you.

Ive yet to find a clearo that comes anywhere close to one in terms of flavor.

And as far as convenience goes, theres a bit more of a learning curve to them but they offer a lot of the same benefits people experience with clearo tanks....ease of use, easy filling etc.

If youre interested, look up Baditude. He has an excellent setup guide in his blog.

Cartos are certainly easy and convenient... but flavor? Not so much. I finally had to start vaping my blueberry muffin in a Kayfun, because the carto just mutes the flavor so much, it's hugely frustrating.

Andria

 

[Krisma]

Cartos are certainly easy and convenient... but flavor? Not so much. I finally had to start vaping my blueberry muffin in a Kayfun, because the carto just mutes the flavor so much, it's hugely frustrating.

Andria

I get around that by kicking up the flavour in my DIY. It helps that Cartos work best on higher levels of PG.

 

[AndriaD]

I get around that by kicking up the flavour in my DIY. It helps that Cartos work best on higher levels of PG.

Well... I already use 85% PG. Not too much I can do on the flavor, since the only flavor I've enjoyed in a carto is my blueberry muffin, which is a pre-made juice from sweet-vapes; I add a little more blueberry flavoring and sweetener to give it more oomph, but in a carto, it really doesn't help -- Kayfun seems the best way to vape it, if I really want to taste it.

Andria

 

[zapped]

I get around that by kicking up the flavour in my DIY. It helps that Cartos work best on higher levels of PG.

Depends on the carto I guess.

I use smoktech 2 hole flanged xl cartos just like Andria and Ive never had any problems with high VG juices in mine.

And Ive tested them side by side with clearos......theres no comparison between the two.Clearos are muted in comparison using the exact same juice at the exact same voltage. Might have something to do with alot of clearos not wicking thick juices well due to their design.

Occasionally if Im feeling like Bobas or Gorilla Juice from Alien Visions (REALLY thick juices) I will buy the 3 hole kind.

I was piffed a couple of rocket RTAs, which are basically Kayfun clones.I will let you guys know how they work when I gt them in a few days.

 

[Krisma]

Depends on the carto I guess.

I use smoktech 2 hole flanged xl cartos just like Andria and Ive never had any problems with high VG juices in mine.

And Ive tested them side by side with clearos......theres no comparison between the two.Clearos are muted in comparison using the exact same juice at the exact same voltage.

Occasionally if Im feeling like Bobas or Gorilla Juice from Alien Visions I will buy the 3 hole kind

Don't get me wrong. My vaping is pretty much all Carto based. I have always used 70% PG I was just saying that I find PG enhances flavour. I use Boge and Smoketech and I love both. Smoketech are just harder to find with a reasonable shipping rate to Australia.

 

[DancingHeretik]

I've even considered posting them in the PIF thread... but I really don't want to pay postage just to give away something. Actually I've got quite a lot of stuff I could PIF -- a half dozen T3S/MT3S tanks, and even a couple "store bought" coils for them, an ARO Pyrex, an ARO Winder... but again, don't wanna pay postage to give stuff away.

Andria

Why not grab all the stuff you want to give away and put it all in the classies together. You could charge just enough to cover shipping, packaging, and the trouble of going to the post office.

 

[AndriaD]

Why not grab all the stuff you want to give away and put it all in the classies together. You could charge just enough to cover shipping, packaging, and the trouble of going to the post office.

If I get to the point that I'm completely out of storage space, I might do that. Right now, it's not a huge issue. And still kinda have the thought in the back of my mind that my son might give vaping a try, if the temptation to return to smoking becomes overpowering. So far it hasn't, but I know about those overpowering temptations! With his bronchitis, obviously it would be a lot better if he did neither, but I'd sooooooo rather he vaped than ever smoked again. Now that he knows it really does work for a 39 yr smoker, he's said that he'd definitely vape rather than smoke again, but so far, he's doing ok as a non-smoker. I just hate to give away stuff that might come in handy for him at some point.

Andria

 

[hurricanegirl100]

You should look into carto tanks if flavor is important to you.

Ive yet to find a clearo that comes anywhere close to one in terms of flavor.

And as far as convenience goes, theres a bit more of a learning curve to them but they offer a lot of the same benefits people experience with clearo tanks....ease of use, easy filling etc.

If youre interested, look up Baditude. He has an excellent setup guide in his blog.

I used to be a huge carto-tank fan, Zapped, until I tripped and fell into BCC-land back in 2012. Cartos clog, they don't boil clean very well, and they're actually more expensive than the Smoktech BCC coils that I buy here https://desertvapes.com/coils/smok/ once a month!

The big thing I think I'm trying to convey, hacking into poor Roxy's RTA thread, is that, for a lot of us, RTA's are a major headache to build. They're not convenient, fraught with "ruin your clothes leakage" perils, and I'm a little honked that vaping manufacturers seem to have dumped us carto-BCC folks by the side of the road!

Point three, newbie vapors looking at all the RTA videos and RTA Vape porn out there right now might be turned off of vaping because it looks like a complicated PITA. I know it would have done that to me..

But everything I've said here might be wrong. Maybe I just have more learning to do..

 

[hurricanegirl100]

FDA-proofing is the only reason I'm attracted to building and I save old coils to rebuild plus I figure there will be enough warning to invest in whatever the best is on the market at the time regulations went into effect. The landscape changes too much to grab something now if I'm not interested in it for current use...

Huge plumes of vapor are a turn off for me. I have some set ups I don't use much because the produce too much vapor; set off smoke alarms, makes windows sticky, can't see, make me cough and don't contribute to flavor enough for the hassle.

I think sometimes people make assumptions about why I'm not interested in doing my own coils. #1 is convenience. If I don't have something ready to vape, then I risk grabbing a pack of smokes instead. It's hard enough to keeping batteries and hardware charged and working 24/7 and that's my first priority.

I have low tolerance for fiddling and fixing. I wish life was different right now but its not. Way too much of my time is spent on things that aren't rewarding, maintenance that I'm kidding myself to add on anything else because it won't happen. I don't think I'm alone in that other than most vapers in an online forum are going to be more enthusiastic about gear. Even the b&m shops don't seem to carry much for the intermediate tootie vape. I bristle every time I hear stuff I'm interested in called "beginner" just because it doesn't require fiddling. I do wire wrapping with jewelry so my ability to wrap a coil isn't my worry. I just don't want to anymore than I want to clean toilets.

Couldn't have said it better, Aikanae! Major, sub-ohm clouds in an office would destroy the goodwill my co-workers have towards my in-office vaping. I'd get written up for that and then I'd have to take it outside! As for the fiddling, while it's fun putting together a quadcoil on a cold winter night in the living room, I don't have the time for that when I'm working/shopping/out in the world! I love my RDA's, but dripping and driving is just askin' for it (SCREEEEEECH!WHAM!CRUNCH and if I'm still conscious, add a TON of expletives HERE!)

I'm not the only one. Phew. I feel better lol..

 

[roxynoodle]

Some RTAs ARE a pain . All of them have the potential to be a pain to some people. I was talking about that with a friend last night. He's a really good builder and said no matter what, he couldn't build the Erlkonigin. That's an atty I've gotten along with since day one. However the Kayfun 4 can be a headache for me,.and he loves them. Every 3rd or 4th wick I would dry hit and have to pull my deck and push the wick around with a screwdriver. So we each may have our affinity for different attys.