The Precise Strata Dual Coil Rebuildable Atomizer/Integrated Tank PV

[emonty]

vaping for one month and so wise, love it!!

I just use up all that's in the tank, syringe out any little bit that's left in the bottom that the wick can't get to.. then dry burn the wick a little bit and put the new juice in. Works with everything I've used except the really strong flavors like menthol and cinnamon. In those cases fill the tank with water and syringe it out once or twice then dry burn to get rid of the remaining water in the wick. I wouldn't get near my tank with soap. Taking the tank off is a good way to disturb the coils, and when you get them working perfectly you really don't wanna mess them up. Quartz and stainless steel tanks in the good rebuildable PVs aren't going to soak up flavors like plastic can.

 

[snork]

Question for the ever-cagey David:
Can you drip into the Strata if you want to?

 

[revolver]

Perhaps a stupid question, but here it is anyway. I use cartos and tanks almost exclusively, which leaves me wondering something about the rebuildable atty.. never having used a rebuildable before and the Strata will be my first, what do all of you who are using different rebuildables already do when you want to change flavors? I mean I'm guessing I can clean out the tank with some warm water and soap, this seems to work fine with higher-end tanks made out of pyrex and steel, less so on the crappier Smoktech tanks where any really strong flavor seems to get embedded in the plastic forever until you throw it out, but how do you get the flavor of something out of a rebuildable? Do you need to physically change the wick in order to start fresh or is it not a issue?
thanks.

The wonderful thing about Genisis rebuildable atties (I mean "real" Genisis, as designed by Raidy; Genisis -not Genesis as commonly misspelled- is a system, which basically consists of using oxidized stainless steel mesh [400 commonly...] as wicking, which capillary action, among others, translate into superior wicking...) is that, when using SS mesh -the only way in which you could properly call your atty Genisis- the change in flavor is automatic. Basically, it is "express"!

So you could always turn your rebuildable into a Genisis... Curious now whether David's secret wick will have similar properties to Genisis System, when it comes to easy-changing-flavors and others... Oh, and also: David: I know yo mentioned it is "secret" or something similar, but shouldn't we be informed on the material/s to your wick, as to really be aware of the health factor/ concerns of vaping with it !?

 

[Riverboat]

Question for the ever-cagey David:
Can you drip into the Strata if you want to?

+1 for Snork.... A man after my own heart...... Direct Drip...
Who knows the Strata atty/tank combo PV might make me give up direct dripping all-together......... It would be a welcome change...

 

[forcedfuel50]

The wonderful thing about Genisis rebuildable atties (I mean "real" Genisis, as designed by Raidy; Genisis -not Genesis as commonly misspelled- is a system, which basically consists of using oxidized stainless steel mesh [400 commonly...] as wicking, which capillary action, among others, translate into superior wicking...) is that, when using SS mesh -the only way in which you could properly call your atty Genisis- the change in flavor is automatic. Basically, it is "express"!

So you could always turn your rebuildable into a Genisis... Curious now whether David's secret wick will have similar properties to Genisis System, when it comes to easy-changing-flavors and others... Oh, and also: David: I know yo mentioned it is "secret" or something similar, but shouldn't we be informed on the material/s to your wick, as to really be aware of the health factor/ concerns of vaping with it !?

Wick uses multi components and is made of non hazardous materials. I won't divulge materials or design until we are right on top of the release, sorry.

 

[forcedfuel50]

Question for the ever-cagey David:
Can you drip into the Strata if you want to?

I don't see why not. I've considered a drip only version too, which is much the same, minus a tank under it.

 

[BAzz]

I don't see why not. I've considered a drip only version too, which is much the same, minus a tank under it.

NOTHING is going to replace my Precise Plus with a DCA and LR306 for dripping. Pure bliss.

I'll take the Strata with tank, thanks.. You didn't say whether you or any of your crew will be at Vapefest in the UK in August. Any chance ?

 

[forcedfuel50]

NOTHING is going to replace my Precise Plus with a DCA and LR306 for dripping. Pure bliss.

I'll take the Strata with tank, thanks.. You didn't say whether you or any of your crew will be at Vapefest in the UK in August. Any chance ?

I'd love to come to the UK, but just can't squeeze it in. I'm afraid too, if i came, i'd be dis-appearing to explore the countryside. Too much too see there and so little time!

 

[BAzz]

I'd love to come to the UK, but just can't squeeze it in. I'm afraid too, if i came, i'd be dis-appearing to explore the countryside. Too much too see there and so little time!

Shame.. oh well, I'll think of you all working over there while I vape...

 

[Andy Thatcher]

Nice venue.

Been to several conferences there over the years.


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[revolver]

The wonderful thing about Genisis rebuildable atties (I mean "real" Genisis, as designed by Raidy; Genisis -not Genesis as commonly misspelled- is a system, which basically consists of using oxidized stainless steel mesh [400 commonly...] as wicking, which capillary action, among others, translate into superior wicking...) is that, when using SS mesh -the only way in which you could properly call your atty Genisis- the change in flavor is automatic. Basically, it is "express"!

So you could always turn your rebuildable into a Genisis... Curious now whether David's secret wick will have similar properties to Genisis System, when it comes to easy-changing-flavors and others... Oh, and also: David: I know you mentioned it is "secret" or something similar, but shouldn't we be informed on the material/s to your wick, as to really be aware of the health factor/ concerns of vaping with it !?

Wick uses multi components and is made of non hazardous materials. I won't divulge materials or design until we are right on top of the release, sorry.

Oh! Ok, so you will eventually divulge the materials... That's all right, I thought it was meant to remain a commercial secret or similar not to become disclosed at all.
What about my other inquiry about your wick and whether it would change flavors so easy and fast as Genisis... Could you let us know something about that !? Coz that plus being "eternal" would make it a total winner; The Queen of Wicks, for sure.

=)

 

[Riverboat]

I don't see why not. I've considered a drip only version too, which is much the same, minus a tank under it.

I like what Im hearing, a Strata Mod and a drip only version for a Shockwave.

 

[schismz]

I just use up all that's in the tank, syringe out any little bit that's left in the bottom that the wick can't get to.. then dry burn the wick a little bit and put the new juice in. Works with everything I've used except the really strong flavors like menthol and cinnamon. In those cases fill the tank with water and syringe it out once or twice then dry burn to get rid of the remaining water in the wick. I wouldn't get near my tank with soap. Taking the tank off is a good way to disturb the coils, and when you get them working perfectly you really don't wanna mess them up. Quartz and stainless steel tanks in the good rebuildable PVs aren't going to soak up flavors like plastic can.

Edit to add: If you really feel like you need more cleaning oomph than plain water provides use food safe alcohol like high proof vodka or everclear. Do you really want to be inhaling soap residue? I certainly don't!

Alright, thanks for that. I've had no issues with my high-end tanks, they clean up very fast, in my experience warm water and soap, followed by rinses of hot water a few times, which amounts to about 90 seconds to completely change flavors. The key difference being, I'm tossing the old carto in the trash and popping in a new one. Was wondering how it would work out with a rebuildable which is basically always there and part of the mod/APV itself, without changing the wick.
I'm glad to hear it's not an issue. I haven't tried out rebuildable's so far because honestly I'm very happy with low res cartos, high-end tanks and the Precise. When I pursue different threads I get a lot of the true believers with incredibly positive reviews, but I don't want to build a shrine to my APVs and polish them every day for their photoshoots, I just wanna smoke 'em Which is where I always hesitate and figure I'll skip it, when it comes down to pulling the trigger on one, because there's the whole mountain of counter-points, "It's awesome, but don't ever, ever lay it on the side, or it'll leak all over everything!" or, "It's super-simple, all you need to get a new wick going is this checklist of 5 kinds of wire that you order from 3 different places, a blow torch, duct-tape, a screwdriver, 3 kinds of pliers, a bowling ball and a small jack-hammer. It's couldn't be easier! After you've practiced 40 or 50 times, it takes no longer than an hour and a half to change the wick!" Uhm, yeah, not for me. I prefer toss old carto in the trash, punch hole in new one, slot into tank, the end, 1 minute has passed.
All these factors and a few more, such as the insane waiting periods for entry into the cult, of various rebuildables I won't name, have put the whole concept on the "too annoying to deal with" list for me so far, which is why the Strata will be my first rebuildable. I like David's work a lot and have faith that whatever he puts out there will rock.
Many thanks for the response to my question!

 

[BAzz]

"It's awesome, but don't ever, ever lay it on the side, or it'll leak all over everything!"

True that. My only gripe with the Precise is it doesn't like standing on end. I hope the Strata has a nice, fat bottom. (I like big butts and I cannot lie )

or, "It's super-simple, all you need to get a new wick going is this checklist of 5 kinds of wire that you order from 3 different places, a blow torch, duct-tape, a screwdriver, 3 kinds of pliers, a bowling ball and a small jack-hammer. It's couldn't be easier! After you've practiced 40 or 50 times, it takes no longer than an hour and a half to change the wick!" Uhm, yeah, not for me. I prefer toss old carto in the trash, punch hole in new one, slot into tank, the end, 1 minute has passed.

It does take a while to get used to, like anything . Takes me less than 2 minutes to recoil my Genisis Line and Maxi if I don't replace the wick (A wick lasts me about 2 months) In other words, about the same time it takes me to find a new 306, rip the top off, put it in the DCA, screw it into the bottom bit attach to the mod and put a drip tip on.

 

[Fisty]

I haven't had to replace my wick or coil yet.. (about 3 weeks heavy use now) I figure in 3 more weeks I might have to heat it and quench it in water to get some of the excess gunk off. Sure beats having to replace cartos every week. It does annoy me that I can't tilt it past a certain point without it leaking though. I take my little ego/stardust with me when I need something I can toss around.

 

[snork]

I'm sure the Strata will have idiosyncracies, but I'm willing to bet it makes Genisis' idiosyncracies moot.

 

[basscase]

Wow Snork, you killed the thread!!! Lol

Well, I am still stalking. Just me and the crickets...

 

[Andy Thatcher]

I am afraid I am in the use it or shift it camp.

Not in that happy a financial place that I can have a couple of hundred sitting there as an ornament. The only caveat to this is a twin 18650 VV box mod that get's taken out for road trips as it is hard to kill the battery's on it but have been looking at the Shockwave as an alternative and waiting on the other Super T 26650 alternatives coming up. Actually as the box cost me well under $100 doesn't hit that criteria lol

Just recently added a rebuildable to my little collection and have to add my vote to the sheer convenience, consistency and cost savings it represents after purchase. Once you have a coil on there that hits as you want it you are done till it pops or you just want to play some more. On a measly week 2 with mine at the moment and will be changing the wick and coil this weekend. Not for any reason other than I want to play with the set up. Expect the same results as I am getting now but which are great but love the tinker factor of these things.

 

[Lazerrred]

Chirp, chirp.........ribbit

 

[snork]

Wow Snork, you killed the thread!!! Lol

Well, I am still stalking. Just me and the crickets...

The word "moot" tends to do that.
Actually the quietude of this whole forum is very encouraging.

Crack that whip, David!!!