Way, way back I had field bred (less fancy coat for harsh working conditions for you non-doggie peeps) English Setter, Irish Setters, English Pointer, and Airedale, who wasn't shown so we clipped instead of stripped. First dog DH and I had was a Chiqapoo with wiry coat but he only weighed 9 lbs; virtually no grooming. He raised our first two English Mastiffs and ruled the house but was raised by cats so had lots of bummer moments not being able to leap up on kitchen counters and top of fridge. Only had English Mastiffs and Rotties until Cissy Briard in 1987. Boy, what a challenge after having short coats for so long. (We did have an occasional EM with pretty excessive undercoat that was a mess twice a year as far as house hair.) Cissy Briard had so much undercoat I swore that, if I ever got another Briard, I would choose one whose coat was not up to standard, by severly lacking in undercoat. I got to see a few pet Briards people brought to shows, that had too little undercoat. I so envied them. Our two Doodles are F1 and their mom was a field bred working trial Lab so good working coat. Because they were only half Standard Poodle, and not F2, F3, etc, with Spoo bred back in, they have very manageable coats. I couldn't have an F3 out here with our wild environment..... just not going to do the grooming necessary!!!!!!
Growing up next door neighbor had a Beagle. Loved that dog. When DH and I were downsizing, numbers and sizes, a few years ago, from always having 6-10 EMs and a sprinkle of Rotties, for 30+ years, all country house dogs, Beagles were up on top of our list as candidates. Have to have tough and hardy out here. Our Cattle Dog girls got much larger than we wanted. You read that average for conditioned ACD female is 30-40 lbs. Down here I've yet to see many that small especially ranch bred working ACDs. Our girls weigh 60lbs. One guy, ACD, Sam, the neighborhood celebrity, seen out jogging several times a week with his Dad weighs 75 lbs!!!!! Maybe small compared to our big guys but certainly not comfortable lap dogs, although they try to be. Even Jake Mastiff thinks he's a lap dog.
Hugs, Feisty Alice