The REO Lounge - Part II

[Justice]

2 big dogs is better Jack. I've seen my 2 in action and even tho not real well trained as far as guard dogs they work real well together. They obviously learned some from my past ..... who was thoroughly trained. Yep 2 is best and I think it helps the most aggressive one was beaten as a pup so therefore has angry fear. A dangerous combination IMO.

 

[Gioajack]

Oh, sure, TWO DOGS, and who the hell is gonna vacuum up all that fur?


Jack

 

[Rhapsodies Fire]

A dog for home protection is a different matter entirely. (This is where I'll get verbally abused.) Home burglaries, (with rare exceptions), are acts of opportunity. Vacant house, (except for cat burglars), lots of cover around doors and windows, unlocked doors and no signs of alarms. (That's why people put up alarm company signs in their yard even though they have no alarm system.)

The first and foremost thing burglars tend to avoid are houses with dogs... small, yappy, neighbor alerting dogs. Big dogs, no matter how potentially aggressive are easily killed, (a simple wrap of leather around your forearm and a knife in your other hand pretty much guarantees you're not going to get a scratch). A small, yappy dog on the other hand is quick, mobile, can race from bush to bush, under a porch, or just keep running in circles if out in the yard all the while making enough noise to raise the dead. If confined inside the house they hide under chairs, couch, coffee table, etc., while sounding the alarm.

Take the time to talk to enough burglars and you'll notice one common denominator... they don't like noise, they'll always move on to a house with no alarm and no dog.

Get a rat dog, or buy a gun and stay home.

Jack

Precisely why our house hasn't been broken into. We have all 3...small but loud dogs, a gun or three and we're nearly always home. No one gets in or around our house without us knowing about it...which is probably why we don't get a lot of visitors either.
see?....oooh...scary.

 

[boilednuts]

Damn, I can't even take a nap without the bad vibes of someone talking about me disturbing my slumber. (Oh, and you'd be surprised how quickly this crippled up old man can move when he has too... just can't do it for long.)

About your little rat dog. Once again I'm going to be the contrarian and most probably be made sport of. I have more than a little bit of experience when it comes to handling dogs and investigating burglaries. There is a distinct difference between using a working dog on patrol or for personal defense. They serve a dual purpose, the first and foremost is actually as a psychological deterrent. Most people will do what you tell them to do when you have a highly trained working dog sitting next to you. I think it has something to do with a fear of being eaten alive. If for some reason they don't do what you tell them to do the size and temperament of the dog comes into play. (that's the fun part. Violence may be crude... but it works.)

A dog for home protection is a different matter entirely. (This is where I'll get verbally abused.) Home burglaries, (with rare exceptions), are acts of opportunity. Vacant house, (except for cat burglars), lots of cover around doors and windows, unlocked doors and no signs of alarms. (That's why people put up alarm company signs in their yard even though they have no alarm system.)

The first and foremost thing burglars tend to avoid are houses with dogs... small, yappy, neighbor alerting dogs. Big dogs, no matter how potentially aggressive are easily killed, (a simple wrap of leather around your forearm and a knife in your other hand pretty much guarantees you're not going to get a scratch). A small, yappy dog on the other hand is quick, mobile, can race from bush to bush, under a porch, or just keep running in circles if out in the yard all the while making enough noise to raise the dead. If confined inside the house they hide under chairs, couch, coffee table, etc., while sounding the alarm.

Take the time to talk to enough burglars and you'll notice one common denominator... they don't like noise, they'll always move on to a house with no alarm and no dog.

Cats are even harder to catch but they don't make as much noise... unless you're swingin' 'em around your head by the tail.

Get a rat dog, or buy a gun and stay home.

(Where the hell are my candy bars?)


Jack

What you say makes a lot of sense barring the misfortune that a rat dog would attack the burglar and end up getting killed as well. I like the two dog idea best for added alarm/protection capability. Know quite a bit of dognapping going around these parts, usually small cute pure breeds so a big watch dog may be enuf of a deterrent for that too. The rat is nut a blue blood but in the event I do get one

 

[FeistyAlice]

Oh, sure, TWO DOGS, and who the hell is gonna vacuum up all that fur?


Jack

We have Roombas for that.

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[Justice]

Like Alice said Roomba for the fur. And a good flat shovel and a mop to clean up what little is left of the intruders .

 

[FeistyAlice]

We have Roombas for that.

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That being said I just purchased another upright vacuum cleaner yesterday. Besides my army of Roombas and Dirtdogs and Electrolux Trilobites, I think I have about 10 vacs; different ones for different jobs. (And many have been donated to Goodwill, over the years, virtually brand new.) Oh yeah a small can vac for cars on the way. I actually got it to use as tiny air blower to clean out the Roombas. Tired of going through so much canned air.

Feisty Alice

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[davelog]

Oh, sure, TWO DOGS, and who the hell is gonna vacuum up all that fur?


Jack

A third dog!

 

[oldbroad]

"bigboy", that sounds so sexy.....hope yer cappysan nut listening. J/K

you didn't like " nutzoid"?and I only wanted to play dominos!!

 

[Sterno]

got my new phone today it rocks Woo hoo!!!
and a good afternoon to you guys and gals

 

[davelog]

Afternoon, Scott! What's new? What kinda bells and whistles you got on that talkin' box now?

 

[Rhapsodies Fire]

Good evening, Scott
Having a rocking phone has got to feel good. I'm not eligible for my upgrade for another month. So I have to wait. But I'm counting down the days.

 

[boilednuts]

you didn't like " nutzoid"?and I only wanted to play dominos!!

"Nutzoid"? Oh, I see it now. Thought you said nutzold, sorry sweetness

 

[boilednuts]

got my new phone today it racks Woo hoo!!!
and a good afternoon to you guys and gals

Hi Scoot, you seem to be getting and endless supply of new toys. Whats next?

 

[FeistyAlice]

We used to have a 6' x 14' chain link gate to close off and secure what we call the "driveway area," actually a smaller yard, totally fenced, where the garage doors were before I converted by putting up walls and a door. (Made it semi-permanent and left garage doors attached). There is a Mastiff sized doggie door through the wall leading to big pen inside. "Garage" heated and cooled. This made any access to windows and doors surrounded by packs of dogs in three fenced ysrds. One day I heard a knock on the "garage" door. "Funny" I thought, Mastiff Pinto was in that yard. Although he was handled in Obedience Fun Matches by a 7 yr old girl (daughter of one of the members in a Shutzhund group I worked with - they had GSDs) and accompanied teen DD on her Sunday drives in her new VW convertible, and intimidated any friend who I told to just walk in when I was expecting them, because he would block the way with silent gaze until they called my name and then he would turn around and lead them in..... He was one of my most solid and leathal personal protection dogs. So.... I hear this knock on door and I was certain big gate was closed..... It was a pleasant woman, standing at door, with a bundle of survey papers in her arms. Pinto was 6' behind her showing no aggression but fully ready to body slam her if anything went wrong. I looked at the woman in amazement and first words from my mouth were, "Are you crazy???!!!!" "Did you see the signs?" Did the five or more Mastiffs and Rotties, in fenced yard you walked by, going bonkers barking, give you even a hint it was not safe to open gates out here and casually walk in?" (We can hardly hear what goes on in front yard when we are in main part of house.)

Her reply was, "But he's so cute and he didn't bark at me."

OMdoG!!!!!!!!!!

Feisty Alice

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[Justice]

Bailey is good about sensing harmless people so will allow them in but not Simba everyone is bad until I tell him it's ok. He will typically grab an arm and hold this is enuf to stop most everyone. On the odd occasion some one has got in without them noticing first they are held. I have come home to find people stuck there a few for several hours stuck standing in the yard

 

[Sterno]

Afternoon, Scott! What's new? What kinda bells and whistles you got on that talkin' box now?

it has a keyboard on it

Hi Scoot, you seem to be getting and endless supply of new toys. Whats next?

hmmm i dont know what do you think i should get

 

[Sterno]

why is it when i show up people stop posting i dont think i stink do i ???

 

[bushmaster]

why is it when i show up people stop posting i dont think i stink do i ???

It happens to me all the time, Scott and I eat nowhere the amount of chili you do. Must just be a coincidence.

 

[FeistyAlice]

Bailey is good about sensing harmless people so will allow them in but not Simba everyone is bad until I tell him it's ok. He will typically grab an arm and hold this is enuf to stop most everyone. On the odd occasion some one has got in without them noticing first they are held. I have come home to find people stuck there a few for several hours stuck standing in the yard

One time, when we were gone, and our lawyer friend, who was living with us, was down the hill building a masterpiece small barn for me.... a woman I knew slightly from dog showing and had Mastiffs, but had never been out here, came out with a man friend, and not only came through the big gate but then through the gate to back yard where there were five Mastiffs, three of them working personal protection dogs. Jeff, our friend heard a small commotion and started up the hill. The closer he got up the hill, and couple kept moving towards him the closer the five dogs closed in on them. Dogs were savy and trained well enough to use discretion, judge situation, and maintain safe distance. And the EM breed is known for using a lot of discretion anyway. They normally "ask questions" before biting whereas a lot of breeds bite first without judging situation properly. But my one or more dogs would have put themselves between strangers and their humans until given a release. As soon as Jeff saw people he yelled at them to stop. Don't come any closer. Dogs stayed their ground and when he got up the hill he greated woman, who he knew, and calmly lead the dogs into house. Of course they were all at big window keeping close watch. This was close to a half ton of canine power with bite strength ranked up with some wild large mammals. They can snap an arm bone with one bite. (Luckily they are not rippers and tearers but rather holders. And although they have great strengh to knock down and hold and Massive teeth their teeth are not razor sharp like some breeds.) After the dogs were in the house Jeff quietly laid into woman. He didn't want to be as animated as he wanted to be fearing the dogs would come through the window.

Later, at a dog show, the woman confronted me about how "rude" Jeff had been. I asked her if she understood why. Her reply was, "But your dogs "know" me from dog shows." I didn't waste any time trying to explain.

Feisty Alice

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