The Vmod XL 18650 Bottom Feeding Mod from Vapage.com

[tearose50]

I wish I hadn't thrown mine away when I crunched the side of it. Has anyone tried asking vapage what size it is?

You threw something away? I used to do that --- but no more. Until I have a supply of "stuff" I would think would never need, I don't pitch anything gear related. I've used old carto covers, revived an atty or two, used the temporary caps of various atty's and clean and use sample bottles--for travel or sharing. I have no idea what I'll ever do with the soft carto caps, but if I get rid of them all there is sure to be a sudden demand!

I'm sure the 0 rings will become available through Vapage. I'm guessing it will be after this next batch of XL's and the Vmod version II is restocked---but just might be at the same time.

 

[ukeman]

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about 10 nic comas, 5 face-splashes of juice, and 9 mouthfulls of juice later I think I am finally starting to get the hang of this thing though

It seems like when I have the balance right, I get almost a little humming/vibrating thing going on while I am pulling. Does anyone else experience this phenomenon, or am I still feeding too much juice

remember that feeling; a lot of it is intuitive... you get a feel for it.
imo it's better to underfeed than over; although you can blow through the d/t to get the juice back down to the bottle on the XL;(most have to take the atty off and blow the atty out) because overfeeding generally is a PIA: no vapor, juice in the mouth, takes a while to work the juice down with firing and vaping unsatisfactory vapes. Too little juice will get you a harsh vape, and you don't want to fire it while dry too many times as it wears out the coil and can cause premature death (to the atty).
I suggest erring on the side of caution; try just the smallest of pressure when you tilt and squeeze; or just one squeeze... it's a pressure and how many squeezes of how much pressure kind of thing; take a vape and judge how much juice you think is in there..
A good thing about 306 attys btw, is if you have a clear d/t you can see the wick etc and the juice too... maybe take the cone off and squeeze just to see if you can get a visual on it...
eventually the good will outweigh the bad vapes.

 

[whatitstrue]

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about 10 nic comas, 5 face-splashes of juice, and 9 mouthfulls of juice later I think I am finally starting to get the hang of this thing though

It seems like when I have the balance right, I get almost a little humming/vibrating thing going on while I am pulling. Does anyone else experience this phenomenon, or am I still feeding too much juice

It sounds like your still over feeding it. Its a fine line between flooded and dry. Remember on a seasoned atty it only takes about 3 drops when driping to get 3-6 good hits. its the same with bottom feeding. I would suggest hitting it till you get the burn then lightly feed it adn take 3-6 drags. Wash,rinse and repeat.

If it taste burnt or you get that dry burn hit , its dry. If you get 10+ drags and there kinda thin your flooding it.
You only want to get a few drops in there from when its dry. Then you should get tasty clouds of vapor.

Uke is als right about juice and ohms, they can also play a huge roll. If the ohms are too low for a certain juice it will always taste burnt unless its flooded. You may also consider a diffrent ohm atty for your juice.


On a side note: Attys rule!!!!!!!!!! I really dont like cartos much.

 

[smilee]

I think that re-buy O-rings is not a problem, you should only earn vapage information about the exact size and material of which they are made (NBR, FPM, MVQ, EPDM) - take a look here:
Oring.pl #

only color you can not choose

 

[jslick_007]

I've noticed some are using this without knowing how to drip very well... this is just a thought that i have lately regarding newbies who are thinking about getting an XL or for us who would recommend them to newbies.
IMO long time carto vapers shouldn't have too much trouble, but newbies who haven't learned the physics of dripping; Resistance (Ohm) to Voltage of a coil to a batt, and more importantly how juice reacts, how much juice, vg/pg etc take heed: this is one of the easiest Bottom Feeders out there, but you can't get away from the learning curve.
Not to discourage anyone, but there is a bit of voodoo; with bottom feeding it's like you have to be a little psychic when it comes to knowing how much juice is in the atty, not to mention how the atty or carto/voltage works with a particular juice.
i say this so that folks don't get discouraged ... keep on vaping

I agree that there's definitely a learning curve. Took me about a week to really get a hang of it and lost about 5ml of juice in the process.

The lower o-ring seals off the connection to keep the juice in the bottom. I wish someone who has one that popped out would match it up to a size from the hardware store. I've done that with other mods...

I also posted some observations in my "Temporary O-Ring" replacement fix on page 144 that has some dimensions of the temp fix I did on mine.

 

[jordan85]

hey so I've been trying to use less juice, and I got a couple of rough gross tasting vapes, and now I can't get the taste to go away. Is it possible to burn out an atty so that it just doesn't taste good anymore. It is giving lots of vapor, but it is horrible tasting.

Btw,all of my juice is from backwoods brew, in case that could be the problem. He used to have the PG/VG mixture proportion listed on the site, but i can't seem to find it anymore

 

[ukeman]

hey so I've been trying to use less juice, and I got a couple of rough gross tasting vapes, and now I can't get the taste to go away. Is it possible to burn out an atty so that it just doesn't taste good anymore. It is giving lots of vapor, but it is horrible tasting.

Btw,all of my juice is from backwoods brew, in case that could be the problem. He used to have the PG/VG mixture proportion listed on the site, but i can't seem to find it anymore

are you using LR? 1.5 ? those will be harshest unless lots of juice. i'd try a 1.8, 1.9, 2.0 .
You try cleaning, or blowing out, and what i would do now is keep vaping it and not exhaling until the old juice is gone.
Some use unflavored nic juice or no-nic unflavored...
i found that a straight menthol juice can be good for clearing out bad tastes... then just put new juice after and it's all good.

 

[Audio Weasel]

You threw something away? I used to do that --- but no more. Until I have a supply of "stuff" I would think would never need, I don't pitch anything gear related. I've used old carto covers, revived an atty or two, used the temporary caps of various atty's and clean and use sample bottles--for travel or sharing. I have no idea what I'll ever do with the soft carto caps, but if I get rid of them all there is sure to be a sudden demand!

I'm sure the 0 rings will become available through Vapage. I'm guessing it will be after this next batch of XL's and the Vmod version II is restocked---but just might be at the same time.

I don't usually throw things away. I have a rather large collection of carto rubbers, end caps etc. I crunched that o-ring to the point where it was unusable. If I had kept it, I could have taken it to the hardware store and said "Find me one just like this". Vapage said they should have them around the second week in Feb. They won't give out the size.

 

[tearose50]

hey so I've been trying to use less juice, and I got a couple of rough gross tasting vapes, and now I can't get the taste to go away. Is it possible to burn out an atty so that it just doesn't taste good anymore. It is giving lots of vapor, but it is horrible tasting.

Btw,all of my juice is from backwoods brew, in case that could be the problem. He used to have the PG/VG mixture proportion listed on the site, but i can't seem to find it anymore

Oh no!

I agree with Uke -- except don't inhale -- you should exhale (I'm sure it was a typo) I do think the 1.5 ohms is tougher to learn with. If you got the kit you should have an atty with a gold band on it -- that's 2.2 ohms.

I believe most BWB is 80pg 20 vg. Maulty and Maulty toffee are much more VG and much thicker.

 

[cracker75]

Hey y'all,

Is there any consensus on cleaning the unit itself? How often, and with what?

I'm getting some feeding problems, and it's really bumming me out

 

[jordan85]

ok, thanks for the help everyone. I have only used cartos until now, and with those I would just keep filling them up until they began to pool a little bit, and then blow them out. This is a lot different!

I am using the 1.5 AMG's from Vapage. Could you explain what you mean by "those will be the harshest unless a lot juice"? Should I be using a bit more juice than I would with a higher resistance atty?

I tried cleaning, using menthol, and I still have a gross taste

 

[Katdarling]

The 306 lasts the longest of just about any atty. The Vapage Hybrids last a long time too...at least mine do.

The lower o-ring seals off the connection to keep the juice in the bottom. I wish someone who has one that popped out would match it up to a size from the hardware store. I've done that with other mods...

If mine comes loose, I'll do it, but I'm not going to pull it out in purpose.

Not even for science, AG? I'll do it, but may not get around to all that modding for a few days. After all, it IS the weekend tomorrow and some of us have to catch up on party time.


jordan, the 1.5s run hotter as they are lower resistance, so they need to be kept wet wet wet. Answer? Yes, more juice, and also give them a good soak in some juice for 1/2 hour or as long as you can stand waiting to use them.

 

[jordan85]

I've tried everything I can think of. I could give the atty a bath, but I don't think that would fix the taste with as many cycles of juice I have tried through it. Is it possible that I have burned the wick on this atty? Is there a way to remove the wick on the AMG attys?

 

[jordan85]

Sorry to flood you guys with these posts (no pun intended XD), but I just took a look at the wick on my atty and compared to the wick on my unused atty. I can't tell whether the wick is brown because it is burned or because it is stained with juice, but the string or whatever it is that wraps around the wick is black! Let me know what you guys think

 

[AlmightyGod]

Hey y'all,

Is there any consensus on cleaning the unit itself? How often, and with what?

I'm getting some feeding problems, and it's really bumming me out

Just run it under hot water whenever you think it needs it. Make sure it's dry, before use. Blow through the connection to get the water out of the air ports.

Sorry to flood you guys with these posts (no pun intended XD), but I just took a look at the wick on my atty and compared to the wick on my unused atty. I can't tell whether the wick is brown because it is burned or because it is stained with juice, but the string or whatever it is that wraps around the wick is black! Let me know what you guys think

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You could run some PGA through it, but just blowing it out should remove any burned juice. You don't want to remove the wick on a Hybrid atty. It has to have the wick through the coil to function. When you hear about de-wicking, it's on attys that have a bridge & upper wick.

 

[AlmightyGod]

BTW...I emailed Brian & he's going to send me the specs on the o-rings when they re-open the factory. It's been Chinese new year.

 

[chadster214]

BTW...I emailed Brian & he's going to send me the specs on the o-rings when they re-open the factory. It's been Chinese new year.

this is one reason why V-Mod XL is not on time.. it's cool! I can wait..

 

[whatitstrue]

Sorry to flood you guys with these posts (no pun intended XD), but I just took a look at the wick on my atty and compared to the wick on my unused atty. I can't tell whether the wick is brown because it is burned or because it is stained with juice, but the string or whatever it is that wraps around the wick is black! Let me know what you guys think

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Its almost imposible to burn the wick. your probably tasting juice sediment that has basicly crusted (scabed ) over the wicking material and coil. when it scabes over the wick it prevents the juice from wicking and tastes burnt or you end up having to flood it to get a useble amout of juice to get a vape. scabes on the coil produce a wicked burnt taste and the coil also has to heat up longer to heat thru the scab. try cleaning it maybe even a dry burn. It cant hurt at this point. Try experimenting with different ohm attys when you get a chance.

 

[Kasia]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ent/18148-some-coil-wicks-really-do-burn.html

 

[jordan85]

I have tried everything I can think of. Water, alcohol, dry burning. It either "works" and sends off plumes of crap-tasting vapor, or ends up flooded when I try to fight off the crap taste with more juice.

Maybe attys just aren't for me. I haven't had any luck getting a consistently good vape with the one that came with the kit, or the two that came with my Riva either