The Vmod XL 18650 Bottom Feeding Mod from Vapage - Part 2

[Rickajho]

Rsbernie, I like a soak in cheap vodka, then a short dry burn. You almost have to experiment with various methods to see what you like. Some people don't ever clean them.

As far as I know, there are no better and cheaper ones. Stock up on these when Vapage holds their sales. Also, you may want to try a Joye 510 atty. They are a slight step down, but a LOT less expen$$$ive.

Kat I have to take exception. The atty that came with my XL setup was either bad or just wrong. It always seemed hot and the draw on it was pretty awful (way too tight) too. Someone else I know who tried them said they had a "hot metal" taste to them and yeah - that's exactly how I would also describe my experience. I also describe it as boiling liquid while it was producing vapor. Toward the end it just started behaving "weird" - every so often you would hear a soft 'pop' and get a sensation like it just exploded a hot vapor bubble. (It was amusing - yet getting kind of scary.) I played with that thing for about three weeks trying to get it to produce a decent vape - then it popped and put both of us out of our misery.

I headed right for the Ikenvape I06 at 1.8 ohms. My god - the thing works and works well. Consistent performance & flavor with no weirdness like I was getting from the Vapage atty. Having found the Ikenvapes I doubt I'll be going back for another bite as what started as a bad apple with the Vapage attys. It's not even that the I06 is less expensive - it just works better.

Love the Vmod, and dare I say it - even the carto that came with it. But that atty was an oddly unpleasant experience.


Do note: If you are new to I06's they are ever so slightly larger than a stock 306 atty - standard 306 drip tips do not fit. You do need to get a 306 drip tip made to fit them.

 

[tearose50]

Wow Rickajho -- it sounds like that atty decided to keep doing it's snap, crackle and pop thing. I believe most hybrids have that at first for a bit -- whether it be Vapage or HH357 or the couple of other hybrid type builds out there. (I think there are about 5 versions now). But, this one sure was ornery for you. Luckily, I haven't had that problem.

I'm glad you have found an atty you like.

It's nice to see someone chat about the I06. It is also one quality & very sweet atty, imho. I have a small stash of Iken atty's in a special box, so they don't get mixed up with other brands and unbranded gear. And, I have a special sleeve that was made for the I06 (by Wharf Rat) it so I can use it with my 510 drip tips.....which also makes it work well in the vmod.

 

[Katdarling]

I clean mine by dropping 3 or four into about an inch of moonshine and leaving it in the fridge until it all evaporates. Takes 3 days or so.

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Moonshine, eh? Hmmm. Someday I would like to sample a taste of that stuff!

Rich, sounds like you did get a bad Vapage atty. I think it's pretty much a consensus of opinion amongst VMOD users that that the Vapage AMG BF attIEs are pretty darn good (when they work, of course!) for an atty in that price range. I think they are most often compared to the 357s.

Having said that, I also love IKV's products and the io6 is a fantastic atomizer. My favorite IKV atty was the Cannon and they lasted for YEARS (I may even still own one).

Sorry you had such a bad time with Vapage one, but glad that you found the Ikes!

 

[FnMag]

Is it the little oring or the big that goes around the chimney?

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[Katdarling]

Is it the little oring or the big that goes around the chimney?

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Having recently done an O-ring replacement on my VMOD, I can tell you it's the smaller of the two.


(VMOD replacement O-ring guide | Vapage Community Blog)

 

[FnMag]

Found my bookmarks on it.

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[FnMag]

Thanks Kat!!

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[Katdarling]

My pleasure!

 

[deb361]

So glad to see everyone returning!! I'm Deb from MO and just got my 2 XL's last week.

I am really enjoying them but not impressed with their batteries. Is one day the average, or are there better batteries I could get?

I'm use to the MVP2 with a tank. I was getting 2+ days on those. Can someone please let me know if better batteries are out there and where to order them? TIA


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[tearose50]

Great to hear from you Deb.

Glad you are getting to know your XL.

I think many who use 18650 batteries rotate the batteries daily whether they need it or not, so that is not uncommon. The MVP has huge battery capacity, and that is one reason it has been so popular. I don't know of any "tube batteries" that would give that long a performance, even though some may come close.

Personally I usually buy my batteries from RTD Vapor. I like to use AW branded batteries or some of the Panasonic ones. Usually, the mAH rating is a guide for how long a battery will last between charges, but there are other factors one should consider and huge amounts of data here on ECF about batteries.

Here's a Blog that might be a good place to start: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/4848-9-battery-basics-mods-imr-protected-icr.html

 

[Mariopainballer]

nice review, looks interesting

 

[deb361]

Thanks Tearose. I will check them out.


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[FnMag]

I ordered these a while ago and just got around to using them last night. After a couple hours of vaping off and on, they taste really good and are getting better...

https://highdesertvapes.com/products/510-Atomizer-(Bridgeless).html

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[Rickajho]

So glad to see everyone returning!! I'm Deb from MO and just got my 2 XL's last week.

I am really enjoying them but not impressed with their batteries. Is one day the average, or are there better batteries I could get?

I'm use to the MVP2 with a tank. I was getting 2+ days on those. Can someone please let me know if better batteries are out there and where to order them? TIA

You really can't compare the battery in an MVP to anything else. It's a specialty battery, folded over inside an MVP even, and way out of the range/context of anything considered to be standard that we normally use.

Saying that, I do and don't agree with you about the Vapage batteries. They really aren't anything special - a basic flat top IMR battery. But a full day of run time? That's actually pretty good for a 2,000 mAh 18650 battery.

If you want a better option that will give you a bit more run time - but not two days though - The Panasonic NCR18650PD hybrid is a good choice. Perfect physical size match to the Vapage battery. You have to be mindful of the battery dimensions with these Vmods. Anything that's a protected cell type will be too long and bad things can happen to a Vmod trying to force a too long battery into it. Also - best to stick with flat tops. The Panasonic is available at RTD Vapor too.

 

[FnMag]

Also, try. Fiftyoff if you go to hdv

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[Rickajho]

Wow Rickajho -- it sounds like that atty decided to keep doing it's snap, crackle and pop thing. I believe most hybrids have that at first for a bit -- whether it be Vapage or HH357 or the couple of other hybrid type builds out there. (I think there are about 5 versions now). But, this one sure was ornery for you. Luckily, I haven't had that problem.

I'm glad you have found an atty you like.

It's nice to see someone chat about the I06. It is also one quality & very sweet atty, imho. I have a small stash of Iken atty's in a special box, so they don't get mixed up with other brands and unbranded gear. And, I have a special sleeve that was made for the I06 (by Wharf Rat) it so I can use it with my 510 drip tips.....which also makes it work well in the vmod.

The I06's are hard to get mixed up - no other drip tip will fit 'em! lol The barrel is just that teensy bit larger that stock 306 drip tips are too small. Really nice vape off that thing.

If people want to try 'em I would suggest the 1.8 ohm is the best match for a Vmod. 1.5 ohm is a bit too low - so with an unregulated thingy like a Vmod it's harsh at those voltages. And the 2.5 ohm works - but under performs compared to 1.8 ohms.

How do you like the sleeve? Does it fit ok into the Vapage cone? That was the only concern that stopped me from ordering one. Ikenvape is selling the sleeves now too.

Regarding the Vapage atty? I dunno. If that's the way they are supposed to work - bad bad bad. If they aren't supposed to do what mine - and a few other people I've PM'd with - did, like I said: not about to go back and try again. I thought it was the Vmod itself - but it wasn't. I thought it must have been too dry - so I over-squonked it to the point of flooding the atty - and that wasn't much better. If you don't know better, a bad Vapage atty could really turn you off to a Vmod.

God forbid an HH357 is like that as well. For the price of one HH357 you can get three I06's.

 

[FnMag]

Had one in since the day before that post. Gurgled and spit first day. Its okay now with an occasional spit. Great vape, and I'm enjoying it.

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[tearose50]

50% off sale on Hybrid attys and Silo Carto's -- Use coupon code HS22G

Only good at Vapage's new web site: Vapage E-Cigarettes | Electronic Cigarettes | Cig2o E-Cigs (shop.vapage.com)

Also, the Nautilus Tank (clearo) for $24.99 No Coupon Required!

Expires 1/27/14

 

[BadDaddy4007]

At this price point, I couldn't resist the temptation to order some more hybrid's. You never can have too many of them stocked.

 

[EddieAdams]

Nice to see the thread active again...