The Vmod XL 18650 Bottom Feeding Mod from Vapage - Part 2

[Andy Thatcher]

Isn't that what all mods do? Just power packs for attys and cartos?

Yep some are clever in that they vary the power, some wattage if you will, some like the VMod adds a feed system but it is the power feed to the device that vaporises juice is its main purpose.

Keep experimenting and you will find something that suites your taste.


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[Fernand]

@Andy, ja, they don't much do metall like in the gut old V1 days no mo'! Beautiful work! I do wonder how well it feeds unless you use light PG juice. And was ist the matter mit you? You don't like Deutsche musik?

Und was ist "der resetter?" you apply it across the charging contact. What does it do?

 

[Andy Thatcher]

Hat wenig mit Deutschland zu tun.

Keep looking at bottom feeders thinking that a genesis would work so well instead of a bottle. There is a Hungarian PV, Scott has a tube version, that has a genesis and battery side by side.

Going to have to play with a couple.


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[Synnuh]

Synnuh, I'm no VMod expert so ignore my suggestion if it's dumb....

Have you tried temporarily covering the air holes to see if that makes a difference for you? I ask because that might give an indication of what a tighter draw TH is like or if there's an air leak somewhere that can/should be fixed.

Yeah, I tried that. I put fingers over 2 of the 4 holes in the cone, and it doesn't seem to help at all, but there's enough space between the cone and the atty that I couldn't see plugging all 4 of them making a difference really. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

Assuming the battery doesn't restrict airflow, and I'd rather it didn't, and if we can agree the vmod is just a fancy battery, with a bottom feed, then it's all up to the atomizer, isn't it? So don't blame the messenger, find yourself the atomizer you crave. If you like a tight draw, the IKV atties have a peculiarity, which is that they cannot draw air from the bottom, only the side pinholes on the 510 connector. In a Vmod that translates to tight as a marsupial rectum. In fact you just about have to remove the inner o-ring. And you clearly want more heat. So maybe a 1.5 ohm IKV 510 atty will give you joy. Their iO6 provides the additional pleasure of messing with the 306 drip tip issue, making it adjustable on the entire continuum between a brick and straw.

I can't say I've ever sucked on a marsupial's rectum, but if it's tighter than the Hybrid/Silo, I'm game to try at least once, lol!

What about the "306 drip tip issue" and the continuum between a brick and a straw thing....? You lost me.

After reading about the differences in lower Ohm's versus higher, I think you are right and I do want lower resistance with better vapor and throat hit production.

 

[Tat_skull]

if your wanting to tighten the draw synnuh, my suggestion would be an o-ring slipped over the atty to cover the gap between the cone and the atty But if your really lloking for better throat hit, my suggestion would be to go with a higher PG ratio juice and go with 1.5 LR atty's...just my

 

[Synnuh]

I'd thought about trying higher PG again, but when I first started out with 100% PG it irritated my throat and chest pretty bad. Kinda scared me off of it. I'm gonna order some IKV atty's and give those a shot.

Thinking about it now, I'm going to try the Hybrid on the Riva and see what it's like. (Edit: It's an even worse draw with the atty on the Riva. The Boge's hit like freight trains on that battery.)

I'm gonna try putting the smaller o-ring around the atty and tighten down the cone, to see if that'll work. Thanks for the suggestion. (Edit: That actually helped out quite a bit. I swapped from the smaller silicone mouthpiece to the shorty drip tip that came with the mod and it's a lot stronger on the TH now. Not as much as I'd like, but it's livable.)

 

[Katdarling]

I have missed you guys! (not you, AT, )

I kicked my xl in the chassis and shoved a 901 adapter down it's throat and landed up with a tilt feeding(have not , squeezed, squoshed, sqaushed, or any other "s" word since I got it) very blue XL that produces frig'n FOG clouds

(Thanks again skinny)

New thread idea: "The S word"

...and a 9ml bottle of Bounty Hunter.

How has it gone wrong you ask ? Tastes too good ! I am here for another couple of days and I have about a ml of juice left and I only got here yesterday.

Excuse me while I dislocate my shoulder slapping myself on the back for being clever enough to actually buy the XL and a couple of Vari's. Think a spare XL is going to have to come along to join the party at some point but will see.

You are soooooooo funny! I'm picturing you slapping yourself on the shoulder for getting an XL, all the while slapping yourself on the rear for running out of BH!

You know...you can "Like" Vapage on FB?

And I can Like YOU, right here!

Can throw out as much vapor as it wants but if it tastes like brussel sprouts I ain't touching it.

You're diss'in' brussels sprouts? One word: trythemwithbacon.

Fiddly, really irritating music, but interesting modular concept could be developed.

The TerroX mod. - YouTube

Awesome, dudes and dudettes. What the heck were they saying? What an interesting device. Anyone venture a guess on cost?

Happy Vapes, VMODia~

 

[Andy Thatcher]

I have missed you guys! (not you, AT, )




You're diss'in' brussels sprouts? One word: trythemwithbacon.


Awesome, dudes and dudettes. What the heck were they saying? What an interesting device. Anyone venture a guess on cost?

Happy Vapes, VMODia~

Haven't released a price as yet.

You call that one word! Lol

I have one for even with bacon.

Yuk.

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[Chief Thunder]

Are you talking about the Cisco Spec, HH.357 or the Aero's?

I just tried mucking with it some more. I tightened down the chimney as much as I could without stripping the threads, then tightened down the atty til it felt as tight as I could get it without busting it. I took the tip off of a CE2 clearo and put it onto the atty. The tip is a soft silicon style with a much smaller opening than the drip tip that came with the mod. It is helping a bit more, but it's still not what I'm looking for. ;/

http://www.avidvaper.com/cisco-lr306-atomizer-drip-tip-special/ <------ these

 

[Chief Thunder]

Oh and you will want to buy the XL drip tips, the standard ones barely come out the top of the vmod

 

[Fernand]

@Kat I'm with you on the Brussels sprouts with bacon, and garlic.

@synnuh, the IO6 is a 306 type atty. They have no tube. So you need a different type drip tip, one that goes around the atty instead of in the atty. But most of them are made o' plastic, thick walls. They don't fit too loose inside the XL chimmeney. So people have been trying various tricks, starting wuth removing the inner o-ring, and yeah, they tend to draw like a straw if they draw at all, hence the brick to straw image.

Only fair to mention that the one thing that tastes almost as good to me as a .357 is an EMDCC 4 ml carto on an eGo Twist.
That sucker kicks .... on a regular eGo battery, but turn it up to 4.2 volts and every time I push the button I keep expecting the locomotive to explode! Bit o' vapor, I dare say, holy moly, let's see if I can find the door!

 

[Jimi D.]

@Kat I'm with you on the Brussels sprouts with bacon, and garlic.

@synnuh, the IO6 is a 306 type atty. They have no tube. So you need a different type drip tip, one that goes around the atty instead of in the atty. But most of them are made o' plastic, thick walls. They don't fit too loose inside the XL chimmeney. So people have been trying various tricks, starting wuth removing the inner o-ring, and yeah, they tend to draw like a straw if they draw at all, hence the brick to straw image.

Only fair to mention that the one thing that tastes almost as good to me as a .357 is an EMDCC 4 ml carto on an eGo Twist.
That sucker kicks .... on a regular eGo battery, but turn it up to 4.2 volts and every time I push the button I keep expecting the locomotive to explode! Bit o' vapor, I dare say, holy moly, let's see if I can find the door!

I'm glad I read this Fernand! I was wondering how the twist would react to the EMDCC.. My Wife fell in love with the pink one. Thanks!

 

[dragonbone]

I'm glad I read this Fernand! I was wondering how the twist would react to the EMDCC.. My Wife fell in love with the pink one. Thanks!

My Twist is in love with the EMDCC!! Hehe

 

[bilboda]

I have a hh-357 on the way for my Vmod XL. but I'm never satisfied. I have also ordered A Vivi Nova which I'll use on a twist.
I didn't really need it but vv is interesting and....using one of the rebuildable heads in my Vmod XL. Such an easy rebuild, I suppose I would only need a tube to attach a drip tip to. I could use lower gauge wire and wire it with 6 or 7 coils like the HH and add ss mesh. Further along the mix and match road I wonder if the twist electronics and dial could be removed and added to the xl....gotta do something with my inreased energy sans tobacco.

 

[Synnuh]

Thanks for the help on those atty's. You guys are awesome!

I'm going to order some of the LR306's and LR510 Cisco's and see what I can get done with it.

 

[Andy Thatcher]

So far the Cisco 306 is about my favourite but don't forget the extended drip tip as suggested.

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[MastiffMike]

I have a hh-357 on the way for my Vmod XL. but I'm never satisfied. I have also ordered A Vivi Nova which I'll use on a twist.
I didn't really need it but vv is interesting and....using one of the rebuildable heads in my Vmod XL. Such an easy rebuild, I suppose I would only need a tube to attach a drip tip to. I could use lower gauge wire and wire it with 6 or 7 coils like the HH and add ss mesh. Further along the mix and match road I wonder if the twist electronics and dial could be removed and added to the xl....gotta do something with my inreased energy sans tobacco.

I test fit and fired (dry burned) a viva nova head on my VMod last night. You're right about needing a tip/tube and it didn't dawn on me until just now that I have a tip that fits PERFECTLY right into the top of the cone! The whistle tip that comes with the Vision Extreme is a nice snug fit right into the cone. The C8 whistle tip also fits (I only have one and it's a VERY tight fit but it does go in).

If I get time late tonight I'll load and vape a nova head with vision tip on my VMod and see how it is.

 

[chadster214]

I just got back from Vapage. and it was nice to meet Brian in person! what a cool dude! most important is I got my cracked chasis replaced!

what blows me the most is Brian is one of the Mountain Bike hall of Famer!

 

[Fernand]

...gotta do something with my inreased energy sans tobacco.

Have you tried heavy drinking? It's been prescribed in Russia for centuries. They used to have a paid position for people whose job it was to go out on winter nights and drag the rigid drunks off the frozen roadways into alleys and such.

 

[MastiffMike]

OK so I tried a stock 1.8 ohm viva nova head (I did trim the wicks real short to fit) on the VMod and here's what I found out. It works, sort of!

Here's the head with wicks trimmed:

And here it is installed:

I tried it with the rubberized whistle tip mouthpiece from a vision mini extreme (which is a TIGHT fit right onto the cone)

and the problem is there isn't enough air flow. I then tried a regular drip tip on an empty atomizer tube just shoved into the cone. It worked awesome! Problem is, the tube is just held in by gravity since it's not actually attached to anything.

It's gonna take more noodling....