The Wizard Labs Thread.

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subver

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I got around to checking out your stuff at subver.com

Great stuff - I hope you get paid :thumb:

Thanks Mowgli! I really appreciate it!
I do get paid.. I need to do more freelance stuff and more personal stuff, though!
I currently work as a motion designer and animator (some graphic design as well) and really enjoy it... been doing that for the last 7 years. Not much time for my own artwork, though!
 

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nah it will be forgotten soon enough. Now this may be hard to live down
 

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Im about to start looking elsewhere for a comparable "Ice" nic. In the meantime Ill order the regular stuff from Wizard although Im not happy about doing so. If anyone has a lead or two on where to look for Ice elsewhere please pm me.

Love Wizard Labs and will return to but there again but frankly with the results I had with Ice I'm just not at all happy about using something else. What I dont understand it why in the world it hasnt been brought into full stock at WL based on its success and the demand for it.

That seems like poor business decision making to me. Sorry John, I know maybe a supplier was limited or large quantities werent available but then it should have been just a "limited run" with no future plans to stock it.

In the under promise, over deliver department.... WL failed on this one. I know that sounds harsh but its more meant to point out that it shouldnt take over a year to bring up a promised product line... even with growing pains.

Ive asked also for an eta on ice as of yesterday, even promising not to reveal it... the reply I got (even as one of the first people to actually test this mix) was "no eta on ice" anytime soon.

There comes a point where customers will begin to go elsewhere if a business cant regularly supply what the customer wants and with all the delays, backorders, and growing pains for just regular product lines its becoming a little odd/much bordering on completely dysfunctional.

Staffing and supply issues, ok. However it should not take this long. Frankly if WL had to raise prices by 10% to hire more qualified staff/pay them more to retain them just so these issues would abate themselves Id be fine with it. Long as they got their ship in shape for good and moved forward with products like Ice as well.

It's my understanding that the Ice is a limited supply item,period. If that's what you want, maybe you should look else where. I think Rts has some at a higher price point and also limited supply.

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No need for viotrol... its a critique... not a damnation of John or his business.

And you are incorrect. I asked John directly way back when if it would go into stock. I also provided him with direct feedback on the product via email as I was one of the earliest users of the Ice nic.

John told me directly that the intent was to test Ice and if it did well to put as a regular item. My post was correct unless John told me wrong himself a long time ago. The "limited" supply was only limited because to my knowledge he was testing it.... not because he couldnt get more. Although he did say he was (at that time) unsure of long term supply but felt it could be worked out.

Please dont assume. Im not spouting off conjecture. Its what I was told from the get go by John about the product.

If you've heard something else then I dunno what to tell ya.

It's my understanding that the Ice is a limited supply item,period. If that's what you want, maybe you should look else where. I think Rts has some at a higher price point and also limited supply.

GoodLuck
 

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No need for viotrol... its a critique... not a damnation of John or his business.

And you are incorrect. I asked John directly way back when if it would go into stock. I also provided him with direct feedback on the product via email as I was one of the earliest users of the Ice nic.

John told me directly that the intent was to test Ice and if it did well to put as a regular item. My post was correct unless John told me wrong himself a long time ago. The "limited" supply was only limited because to my knowledge he was testing it.... not because he couldnt get more. Although he did say he was (at that time) unsure of long term supply but felt it could be worked out.

Please dont assume. Im not spouting off conjecture. Its what I was told from the get go by John about the product.

If you've heard something else then I dunno what to tell ya.



Viotrol Really?

Viotrol: 1. something highly caustic or severe in effect, as criticism; 2. speech, writing, etc, displaying rancour, vituperation, or bitterness

3. any one of a number of sulphate salts, such as ferrous sulphate ( green vitriol ), copper sulphate ( blue vitriol ), or zinc sulphate ( white vitriol )

No, Vitriol... Not even a little bit. Buy what ever you want, from who ever you want.

I simply stated they do not have the product you want. They may or may not have it again.SO,,,,,, If that's what you want, Maybe you should check else where if you do not like the regular nicotine they have. NO, need to ruffle your feathers with me.

Good luck
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