The Womper Woom OR You Might Be A Modwomper

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The Stapled Staggered Fused Clapton. I tried to make this once but ran out of patience with the ribbon in the center.
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Umm... Maybe tomorrow :thumb: I'll try a mini version
 

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Yea, I reread the manual and now I'm on a better track. But after unlocking, and then switching atty's, following the manual exactly, I still did not get the prompt they mention. I'll try it again after it cools off.

Like USMC said, its not going to ask unless it see's a good bit of difference in the reading for the same reason of not wanting to set the resistance after its been used. The mod knows it will have so much resistance variance between warm and cold programmed into it so unless the new coil ohm reading is a lot different, it will continue to think its the same coil and not ask. I have a .08 coil on my STM for my Evic VT. I take the STM off and fire it, it say no atomizer. Put it back on and the coil reading is .13 ohms. I fire it and the lock sets it back to .08 ohms. Its all part of the design of the Evic.
 

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Like USMC said, its not going to ask unless it see's a good bit of difference in the reading for the same reason of not wanting to set the resistance after its been used. The mod knows it will have so much resistance variance between warm and cold programmed into it so unless the new coil ohm reading is a lot different, it will continue to think its the same coil and not ask. I have a .08 coil on my STM for my Evic VT. I take the STM off and fire it, it say no atomizer. Put it back on and the coil reading is .13 ohms. I fire it and the lock sets it back to .08 ohms. Its all part of the design of the Evic.
I guess I'm a little confused by what you are saying because once locked, the mod seems ot only report the locked resistance, not the current resistance. So not sure why yours would read 0.13 when you presumably put a hot coil back on.

ETA: Never mind, just did the same with a very hot coil and I see it reads actual until it's fired and then resumes its locked value display.
 
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Yea, I reread the manual and now I'm on a better track. But after unlocking, and then switching atty's, following the manual exactly, I still did not get the prompt they mention. I'll try it again after it cools off.

I rarely got it either, with my Evic.

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If you always build close to the same coil... You almost never will, unless there is a problem with the build causing res fluctuations... About the only time I see it is when switching between a ti coil and a new ni coil, or vise versa.
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My two Ti builds are something like 0.46 and 0.41. So I guess that's the case.
 

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That much difference in a ni coil would probably prompt it, but it's not as big of a difference % on the ti ;)
Well, it doesn't. Hehe. But I might try something like a 26g 5 wrap in a spare RBA deck on the STM to see how it does with lower resistance. That should trigger it :)
 

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Can you turn off the atty lock? I didn't see that in the manual.
I got the occasional intermittently repeating prompts using an STM, and they cleared by themselves before I had much chance to do anything. I figured the resistance was drifting for some reason.
That's your problem, you're using a Subtank Mini. I have 4 Subtank Mini's and with every single one of them, the resistance fluctuates. This is why I no longer use my Subtank Mini's. When I put a nickel coil into either my Freemax Starre Pro, Triton, or Atlantis tanks, the resistance stays rock solid. I'm currently using an Atlantis 2 with a Vaporshark Atlantis nickel coil on my evic-VT and have been using the same combo for over six weeks now. For the entire time, not once has the resistance changed (and I don't even have atty lock turned on) and it has vaped exactly the same every single day.
 

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When I say the resistance fluctuates, I'll put a new coil (and this is the Kanger nickel OCC) in the Subtank, put it on the evic (and this also happened on my DNA40) and the resistance will read 0.15. Set the evic to 35 or 40 watts, set the temp to 450 and vape on it, everything is fine with the world. Sit the thing down and come back to it later and now the resistance reads 0.12. This happens regardless of whether I have atty lock on it or not. Try vaping on it and it feels like nothing is happening. The only way to get it to vape like it did before was to turn the temp on it all the way up to 600, and even then it feels weak by comparison. And no matter what you do, remove the Subtank, turn the mod off, turn it back on, stick the tank in the freezer, say a prayer, do a Navajo rain dance, and you can never get the coil to go back and read at 0.15 ohms again or vape like it did before. Out of 2 5-packs of coils (10 in total), 8 of them did this.

The only temp control mods you can actually use the Subtank Mini on and not have this wandering resistance problem is either a YiHi based chipset, or the Sigelei 75 TC. This is because when you first put the new coil on, you manually detect the resistance. After that, the resistance is locked in and the mod will never check the resistance again, until you manually trigger the resistance check. So it doesn't matter how much the resistance wanders, the mod will fire it exactly the same every single time.
 

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That's your problem, you're using a Subtank Mini. I have 4 Subtank Mini's and with every single one of them, the resistance fluctuates. This is why I no longer use my Subtank Mini's. When I put a nickel coil into either my Freemax Starre Pro, Triton, or Atlantis tanks, the resistance stays rock solid. I'm currently using an Atlantis 2 with a Vaporshark Atlantis nickel coil on my evic-VT and have been using the same combo for over six weeks now. For the entire time, not once has the resistance changed (and I don't even have atty lock turned on) and it has vaped exactly the same every single day.
I'm somewhat limited with TC because I need Ti (nickel allergy). So I think that eliminates the Atlantis and the Freemax. I guess I could use a Triton and buy the add on deck.
 
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When I say the resistance fluctuates, I'll put a new coil (and this is the Kanger nickel OCC) in the Subtank, put it on the evic (and this also happened on my DNA40) and the resistance will read 0.15. Set the evic to 35 or 40 watts, set the temp to 450 and vape on it, everything is fine with the world. Sit the thing down and come back to it later and now the resistance reads 0.12. This happens regardless of whether I have atty lock on it or not. Try vaping on it and it feels like nothing is happening. The only way to get it to vape like it did before was to turn the temp on it all the way up to 600, and even then it feels weak by comparison. And no matter what you do, remove the Subtank, turn the mod off, turn it back on, stick the tank in the freezer, say a prayer, do a Navajo rain dance, and you can never get the coil to go back and read at 0.15 ohms again or vape like it did before. Out of 2 5-packs of coils (10 in total), 8 of them did this.

The only temp control mods you can actually use the Subtank Mini on and not have this wandering resistance problem is either a YiHi based chipset, or the Sigelei 75 TC. This is because when you first put the new coil on, you manually detect the resistance. After that, the resistance is locked in and the mod will never check the resistance again, until you manually trigger the resistance check. So it doesn't matter how much the resistance wanders, the mod will fire it exactly the same every single time.
Did you have the same problem with the RBA deck, or did you just use factory nickel coils?
 

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Sit the thing down and come back to it later and now the resistance reads 0.12. This happens regardless of whether I have atty lock on it or not. Try vaping on it and it feels like nothing is happening. The only way to get it to vape like it did before was to turn the temp on it all the way up to 600, and even then it feels weak by comparison. And no matter what you do, remove the Subtank, turn the mod off, turn it back on, stick the tank in the freezer, say a prayer, do a Navajo rain dance, and you can never get the coil to go back and read at 0.15 ohms again or vape like it did before. Out of 2 5-packs of coils (10 in total), 8 of them did this.

I don't have a STM, but this sounds pretty much like what I experienced with the evic -- it would vape great for a while, but then for no apparent reason, after about a day-ish, I'd notice the resistance had changed (though mine were nothing near that low), and hardly get anything at all from it. I would sometimes switch it to Ni instead of Ti, and then I could get a vape, but it would taste burnt. and yes i set the temp lower with Ni; didn't matter, it always tasted burnt with the Ni setting.

I just got tired of the inconsistency and futzing around with it, and sold it. With regular kanthal coils, I can *depend* on my vape.

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