The Womper Woom OR You Might Be A Modwomper

[Boden]

Thanks for the link, Boden! I have a Disrupter. I usually run it at 20 to 30 watts (depending on the flavor) with the iSub G tanks and .5 ohm coils with rayon wicking. (I use the stock cotton wick until it's icky, then I replace it with rayon, which I like better.)

~Lannie

Good, you don't really have to worry about resistance with a regulated device. Just make a coil that is close to the size of the air port of the atty and adjust wattage to taste.

28 gauge is a good midrange wire. Sturdy enough to take some abuse but not so thick that the heat up time is excessive.

 

[Lannie]

Thank you!

 

[Boden]

@Lannie
Here's an example contact coil.

28 gauge is 0.32mm diameter. If the air port is 3mm diameter I make a 2.5mm inside diameter coil with 10 wraps (10 x 0.32mm = 3.2mm wide)

If I was doing a spaced coil I would use 7 wraps and stretch the coil out to 3mm wide.

 

[Boden]

@Robert Cromwell

I think I can make something tasty out of these.

 

[TrollDragon]

My guess is its probably 24g in those 0.5 ohm heads, 20 to 30W will give a heat flux from 177 to 265.
As 26g would be a very toasty vape at 0.5 ohms and 20 to 30W.

 

[Boden]

My guess is its probably 24g in those 0.5 ohm heads, 20 to 30W will give a heat flux from 177 to 265.
As 26g would be a very toasty vape at 0.5 ohms and 20 to 30W.

More likely parellel 28 or 30

 

[Robert Cromwell]

@Robert Cromwell
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I think I can make something tasty out of these.

Beware of the irish cream it is strong.

 

[TrollDragon]

More likely parellel 28 or 30

That right, the ramp up on the parallel 28g would be much quicker than a single 24g.

 

[Boden]

Beware of the irish cream it is strong.

Yes flavor sensei, I will take baby steps.

Namaste

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Yes flavor sensei, I will take baby steps.

Namaste

I think that the White peach and custard might be tasty together. Plan on trying it.
Not used Catalan Cream yet but have some.

 

[Lannie]

I don't quite understand the specifics of what you guys are saying about the wire and coils, but that's OK. I'll read stuff, and then ask questions about the things I can't figure out. I know the higher the gauge number, the thinner the wire, but I don't get the contact v.s. spaced and all that yet. I will, though. I just started THINKING about this yesterday afternoon, so... give me a couple days and I'll be better, I promise!

I have to shut the 'puter down here in a few minutes. The power company is going to cut our power so they can replace some "weak" poles in preparation for the wind tomorrow. We're forecast to get 60 mph winds most of the afternoon I guess. That's only 15 mph less than hurricane strength. At least there isn't going to be snow in it. Then it would be a blizzard. This will just blow leaves and chickens around the yard. Someday I'd like to live in a place were a 20 mph breeze would be considered "windy." Wouldn't THAT be nice?

~Lannie

 

[Boden]

I don't quite understand the specifics of what you guys are saying about the wire and coils, but that's OK. I'll read stuff, and then ask questions about the things I can't figure out. I know the higher the gauge number, the thinner the wire, but I don't get the contact v.s. spaced and all that yet. I will, though. I just started THINKING about this yesterday afternoon, so... give me a couple days and I'll be better, I promise!

I have to shut the 'puter down here in a few minutes. The power company is going to cut our power so they can replace some "weak" poles in preparation for the wind tomorrow. We're forecast to get 60 mph winds most of the afternoon I guess. That's only 15 mph less than hurricane strength. At least there isn't going to be snow in it. Then it would be a blizzard. This will just blow leaves and chickens around the yard. Someday I'd like to live in a place were a 20 mph breeze would be considered "windy." Wouldn't THAT be nice?

~Lannie

 

[TrollDragon]

It that a #6-32 machine screw wrap?

 

[Boden]

It that a #6-32 machine screw wrap?

Freehand

 

[chopdoc]

I don't quite understand the specifics of what you guys are saying about the wire and coils, but that's OK. I'll read stuff, and then ask questions about the things I can't figure out. I know the higher the gauge number, the thinner the wire, but I don't get the contact v.s. spaced and all that yet. I will, though. I just started THINKING about this yesterday afternoon, so... give me a couple days and I'll be better, I promise!

I have to shut the 'puter down here in a few minutes. The power company is going to cut our power so they can replace some "weak" poles in preparation for the wind tomorrow. We're forecast to get 60 mph winds most of the afternoon I guess. That's only 15 mph less than hurricane strength. At least there isn't going to be snow in it. Then it would be a blizzard. This will just blow leaves and chickens around the yard. Someday I'd like to live in a place were a 20 mph breeze would be considered "windy." Wouldn't THAT be nice?

~Lannie

Looking at Steam Engine Coil Wrapping, your going to have a bit of a dilemma. I would normally recommend 28 ga Kanthal as a good starting size wire for building coils. To get your target of .5 ohms would be hard with 28 ga. A few things need to be considered when selecting a coil to build. Surface area has a lot to do with flavor. The more surface the coil has means the better flavor being delivered to you so going with less than 5 wraps would not be an ideal vape. Coil size is another consideration. The larger the coil the more wick can be in contact with the coil, the more juice able to be vaporized.
Now with these considerations, and your target of .5 ohms you would need 26ga wire at 5 1/2 wraps with an inside diameter or 1.5 mm.

And after you get a few coils under your belt, played around with steam engine a bit and all, then all this will start becoming second nature to you. It sounds hard but in reality its not as hard as it sounds

 

[Lannie]

Boden, I'm so sorry I wasn't more clear in my last post. I was rushing, and you CAN'T actually read my mind, can you? I know what a spaced and a contact coil look like, but what's the advantage of one over the other? That's what I'm not clear about. That will be my one "official question" for today and then I promise not to bug you again until at least tomorrow.

I know this only seems confusing because it's a new subject for me, but I'm a quick learner, and once I find that "AHA!" moment where everything clicks into place in that dusty cavern I call a brain it will all make total sense to me. Then I'll be off and running. Chopdoc, that information is the kind of little bits and pieces that I need to learn, so THANK YOU! A few more of those little gems and *something* should start to click.

I'm starting to feel guilty about you guys spending so much time tryin' to 'splain the simplest concepts to me. I'm gonna just keep reading and soaking up information.

~Lannie

 

[Boden]

Looking at Steam Engine Coil Wrapping, your going to have a bit of a dilemma. I would normally recommend 28 ga Kanthal as a good starting size wire for building coils. To get your target of .5 ohms would be hard with 28 ga. A few things need to be considered when selecting a coil to build. Surface area has a lot to do with flavor. The more surface the coil has means the better flavor being delivered to you so going with less than 5 wraps would not be an ideal vape. Coil size is another consideration. The larger the coil the more wick can be in contact with the coil, the more juice able to be vaporized.
Now with these considerations, and your target of .5 ohms you would need 26ga wire at 5 1/2 wraps with an inside diameter or 1.5 mm.

And after you get a few coils under your belt, played around with steam engine a bit and all, then all this will start becoming second nature to you. It sounds hard but in reality its not as hard as it sounds

The defender has 7.5V/20A limits.

0.2-1.1 ohm coil at 50W,
to 1.4 ohms at 40W,
to 1.88 ohms at 30W,
to 2.8 ohms at 20W

Maths

 

[AndriaD]

Boden, I'm so sorry I wasn't more clear in my last post. I was rushing, and you CAN'T actually read my mind, can you? I know what a spaced and a contact coil look like, but what's the advantage of one over the other? That's what I'm not clear about. That will be my one "official question" for today and then I promise not to bug you again until at least tomorrow.

I know this only seems confusing because it's a new subject for me, but I'm a quick learner, and once I find that "AHA!" moment where everything clicks into place in that dusty cavern I call a brain it will all make total sense to me. Then I'll be off and running. Chopdoc, that information is the kind of little bits and pieces that I need to learn, so THANK YOU! A few more of those little gems and *something* should start to click.

I'm starting to feel guilty about you guys spending so much time tryin' to 'splain the simplest concepts to me. I'm gonna just keep reading and soaking up information.

~Lannie

I tried the compressed kind when I first started rebuilding, but they concentrate the heat a lot, and I always ended up with burnt wicks. So I started making spaced coils, and the problem disappeared -- so I stick with spaced coils. I'm a total tootle puffer, so more heat is not a good thing, IMO.

Andria

 

[Romano Cheese]

@Lannie The difference is how quickly they heat up and how much heat they are giving off. Contact coils are going to produce a hotter vape since they are all touching - spaced will be cooler. It also affects wicking, the contact coils can vaporize a lot of liquid with that heat and get dry hits, the spaced will draw the liquid a little slower. I prefer contact coils in my RDAs and spaced coils in my RTAs.

 

[Boden]

Boden, I'm so sorry I wasn't more clear in my last post. I was rushing, and you CAN'T actually read my mind, can you? I know what a spaced and a contact coil look like, but what's the advantage of one over the other? That's what I'm not clear about. That will be my one "official question" for today and then I promise not to bug you again until at least tomorrow.

I know this only seems confusing because it's a new subject for me, but I'm a quick learner, and once I find that "AHA!" moment where everything clicks into place in that dusty cavern I call a brain it will all make total sense to me. Then I'll be off and running. Chopdoc, that information is the kind of little bits and pieces that I need to learn, so THANK YOU! A few more of those little gems and *something* should start to click.

I'm starting to feel guilty about you guys spending so much time tryin' to 'splain the simplest concepts to me. I'm gonna just keep reading and soaking up information.

~Lannie

The difference between spaced and contact in use... very little. Spaced coils tend to run a little bit cooler.

You have to try them to find out