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[Atchafalaya]

Dear Darth Linda,

At what Watts level are you now vaping your new sub-Ohm experience? Even though I have not seen anyone come right out and say it as a "science" thing (maybe The Boden or Sir Rixy will confirm), I have observed my "friends" who have transitioned to the dark side change their nic levels in an inverse proportion to their Watts. That is, if you use 24mg at 10W, then you go up to 20W, you get similar satisfaction at 12mg, but when you hit 30W you only need 6mg, 40W down to 3mg, and those in the 60-75W seem to think 1mg is enough (witness Darth Lannie's admission above). Pardon my presumption again, Darth Kevin (Sir Kadly - obviously it does not apply to everyone), but it would appear that total suck time also has a similar correspondence... the higher the Watts, the shorter the suck time.

As a TootleWomper, I can still get 10 seconds at 20W on my nautilus, but that is with a 1.5-Ohm coil. If I had a 0.5-Ohm coil in that puppy, would I either lower my Watts to maintain a 10-second suck or shorten my suck time to get the same flavor result? Enquiring minds want to know...

If I could see those little numbers I'd know. My "good" eyeglasses are at work.

 

[Fuzzy Thunderbear]

Mind condensing that down to two sentences? Not sure what asking.

OK, for the average vaper (not including vapers in transition from one mode to another who have not as yet settled on their final vaping style)...

Does increasing the Watts used tend to make the nic level requirement go down?
and/or
Does increasing the Watts tend to make the suck time correspondingly shorter?

Is there a direct correlation? as in
If X Watts requires Y nic, does then 2X Watts = Y/2 nic?

 

[Atchafalaya]

OK, for the average vaper (not including vapers in transition from one mode to another who have not as yet settled on their final vaping style)...

Does increasing the Watts used tend to make the nic level requirement go down?
and/or
Does increasing the Watts tend to make the suck time correspondingly shorter?

Is there a direct correlation? as in
If X Watts requires Y nic, does then 2X Watts = Y/2 nic?

I'm going to let someone else answer this. As it took me an hour to even get mine to work. Dork Linda bows out of this one.

 

[Eskie]

Today's new toys. I'm almost tempted to swap the battery packs around...

I know where you got those. Were those from the original supply or the replacement that also sold out? I hope you're happy hoarding two of those while some of us missed out.

I'm eyeballing this Dual 18650. 150/160w Looks nice though.

Didn't you just get one of these for travel but then returned it? I could be utterly confused though, but I remember something in gunmetal like that.

Here's a rare shot of a coolfire in its natural habitat. A mailbox.
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That blue is really nice. Worth holding out for. Enjoy Darth Linda!

 

[Fuzzy Thunderbear]

Dork Linda bows out of this one.

But I bet you'd like to know if there is an answer...
If someone can find a correlation and produce viable figures, it could greatly assist vapers in e-juice choices (and DIYers would know exactly what ratio to use for "their" vaping style).
I do understand that what works for Joe Bloe might not work for Sally Smythe, but I am looking for a generalized statement here that might fit the "average" vaper and help them with their choices.

 

[Atchafalaya]

But I bet you'd like to know if there is an answer...
If someone can find a correlation and produce viable figures, it could greatly assist vapers in e-juice choices (and DIYers would know exactly what ratio to use for "their" vaping style).
I do understand that what works for Joe Bloe might not work for Sally Smythe, but I am looking for a generalized statement here that might fit the "average" vaper and help them with their choices.

I'm thinking there is a definite correlation pertaining to an individuals needs/wants. I also agree it may be different for each person.

 

[Atchafalaya]

But I bet you'd like to know if there is an answer...
If someone can find a correlation and produce viable figures, it could greatly assist vapers in e-juice choices (and DIYers would know exactly what ratio to use for "their" vaping style).
I do understand that what works for Joe Bloe might not work for Sally Smythe, but I am looking for a generalized statement here that might fit the "average" vaper and help them with their choices.

Ok, so this is the Analyst/Debater in you. Putting that idea out there. Now, we need a Logician to begin working this theory.
Heaven knows we got a lot of them!

 

[Atchafalaya]

I really wish I had my eyeglasses, because even though my personality may be Entertainer, I'm very analytical.

 

[Fuzzy Thunderbear]

Ok, so this is the Analyst/Debater in you. Putting that idea out there. Now, we need a Logician to begin working this theory.

PERZACTLY! And if he gets wealthy upon publication, I will only require a 10% fee for giving him the idea.

 

[Atchafalaya]

That blue is really nice. Worth holding out for. Enjoy Darth Linda

Thanks Eskie! But, it's Dork Linda.

 

[Eskie]

It seems like increased power results in a decrease in nic concentration, but that increase in power is associated with lower ohm coils and increased vapor production, so the more that's vaporized, a lower nic solution works to maintain a relatively similar dose delivery. It's much the same way as calculating total daily dose by concentration and volume. If I have 3 ml of 24 mg a day, but then go to 5~6 ml of 12 mg a day my total daily dose is equivalent.

As you drop into real subohm, big volume vaping, again it might only be a 3 mg solution, but if you vape 30 ml a day of it, again roughly equivalent.

 

[Eskie]

Thanks Eskie! But, it's Dork Linda.

Oh. Sorry Dork!

 

[Atchafalaya]

It seems like increased power results in a decrease in nic concentration, but that increase in power is associated with lower ohm coils and increased vapor production, so the more that's vaporized, a lower nic solution works to maintain a relatively similar dose delivery. It's much the same way as calculating total daily dose by concentration and volume. If I have 3 ml of 24 mg a day, but then go to 5~6 ml of 12 mg a day my total daily dose is equivalent.

As you drop into real subohm, big volume vaping, again it might only be a 3 mg solution, but if you vape 30 ml a day of it, again roughly equivalent.

Ok Fuzz, it's obvious the Executive needs to take the reins and then dish out the remaining areas to the Logicians.

 

[Fuzzy Thunderbear]

It seems like increased power results in a decrease in nic concentration, but that increase in power is associated with lower ohm coils and increased vapor production, so the more that's vaporized, a lower nic solution works to maintain a relatively similar dose delivery. It's much the same way as calculating total daily dose by concentration and volume. If I have 3 ml of 24 mg a day, but then go to 5~6 ml of 12 mg a day my total daily dose is equivalent.

As you drop into real subohm, big volume vaping, again it might only be a 3 mg solution, but if you vape 30 ml a day of it, again roughly equivalent.

OK, but first, please define "real" sub-Ohm? Is 0.5 not real? And, if I use Lannie as my guinea pig on your statements, it does not all fit perfectly. Of course, we all know Lannie is not "average." But she only had to go up 20W to cut her nic way down (she posted all that somewhere above). Her clouds are only a little larger than my 20W TootleWomps, but her joose consumption is waaaay more than mine. And, if someone blows out a bigger cloud, does that not mean that it is vapor that did not get its component chemicals absorbed? That is, just because you are using ten times the juice at 1mg as you used at 10mg, I suspect you are not really absorbing ALL the equivalent nic.

Which brings up another question for the Logicians: What percentage of inhale is absorbed versus the amount of exhale? Is the resultant cloud stripped of its flavor and nic, or was that portion wasted?

 

[retired1]

I did a flow chart for y'all. Should be easy to reach your goals now.

 

[Boden]

OK, for the average vaper (not including vapers in transition from one mode to another who have not as yet settled on their final vaping style)...

Does increasing the Watts used tend to make the nic level requirement go down?
and/or
Does increasing the Watts tend to make the suck time correspondingly shorter?

Is there a direct correlation? as in
If X Watts requires Y nic, does then 2X Watts = Y/2 nic?

Yes, generally people go lower in nic as watts goes up.

No, I take the same length of pull off a Kayfun at 12W as I do on a RDA at 60W. ~ 4 seconds

With the RDA I'm just moving more air during that time.

No, I can vape between 6-36mg juice at 12W

---------------
What the heck is a final Vaping style?

I've been Vaping for seven years and in that time I have broadened how I vape, not settled into a rut.

 

[Boden]

Thanks Eskie! But, it's Dork Linda.

The Dork Lord Has Spoken!!!

 

[USMCotaku]

Enjoy Kad. See you soon.
Here's my coolfire isubG on a fence post.
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You can always tell when someone is happy with their new gear........by the flood of pictures

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[MikeyConti]

Ok Fuzz, it's obvious the Executive needs to take the reins and then dish out the remaining areas to the Logicians.

In the future, our Jobs will be determined by Atchas spreadsheet.. Gattica...

 

[Sir Kadly]

Dear Darth Linda,

At what Watts level are you now vaping your new sub-Ohm experience? Even though I have not seen anyone come right out and say it as a "science" thing (maybe The Boden or Sir Rixy will confirm), I have observed my "friends" who have transitioned to the dark side change their nic levels in an inverse proportion to their Watts. That is, if you use 24mg at 10W, then you go up to 20W, you get similar satisfaction at 12mg, but when you hit 30W you only need 6mg, 40W down to 3mg, and those in the 60-75W seem to think 1mg is enough (witness Darth Lannie's admission above). Pardon my presumption again, Darth Kevin (Sir Kadly - obviously it does not apply to everyone), but it would appear that total suck time also has a similar correspondence... the higher the Watts, the shorter the suck time.

As a TootleWomper, I can still get 10 seconds at 20W on my Nautilus, but that is with a 1.5-Ohm coil. If I had a 0.5-Ohm coil in that puppy, would I either lower my Watts to maintain a 10-second suck or shorten my suck time to get the same flavor result? Enquiring minds want to know...

I'll try to do a little sciencing on my suck times tonight![emoji6]

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