The word "stinkies"

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yup stinkies its a negative connotation..
smoker who want to quit require the negative connotation to help them mentally disassociate themselves from cigarettes...
but consider the point when one was smoking, it supplied a source of stress relief, a method of socializing, and other things that were advantagious during that time. Did we use terms that were "antismoking" while we were engaged in that habit/ritual? I didnt...
and now since we want to quit, we use such terms...

Which makes it a bit challenging for us dual users who are on the forum and feel we know EXACTLY where the quitters are with such thinking.

To me, it is as annoying as when you are vaping some place, and someone says, "take that smoking device elsewhere. We don't tolerate smoke in here." Which incidentally, I've never heard, but the point is, that you simply come off like an ANTZ when you speak so disparagingly about smokes.

I swear that some ex-smokers bother me far more than non-smokers. I'm convinced that the worst ANTZ in this world are ex-smokers. Also not looking forward to the era when there's more ex-vapers around than vapers.
 

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Which makes it a bit challenging for us dual users who are on the forum and feel we know EXACTLY where the quitters are with such thinking.

To me, it is as annoying as when you are vaping some place, and someone says, "take that smoking device elsewhere. We don't tolerate smoke in here." Which incidentally, I've never heard, but the point is, that you simply come off like an ANTZ when you speak so disparagingly about smokes.

I swear that some ex-smokers bother me far more than non-smokers. I'm convinced that the worst ANTZ in this world are ex-smokers. Also not looking forward to the era when there's more ex-vapers around than vapers.

Self-loathing's a powerful thing. Familiarity breeds contempt.
 

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I'm in metro Atlanta... and yes we do say "y'all"... but never for singular you, only for plural you -- it also annoys me to death when I hear someone trying to mock a southern accent, say "y'all" for just one person. ARGHHH! :facepalm: It's a contraction for YOU ALL!

Not sure what age has to do with it, but I'm 52... 53 next month. Why does it matter?

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I was born and raised in TN, and although I live in FL now, "y'all" is just normal to me. I can't help it.
 

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Which makes it a bit challenging for us dual users who are on the forum and feel we know EXACTLY where the quitters are with such thinking.

To me, it is as annoying as when you are vaping some place, and someone says, "take that smoking device elsewhere. We don't tolerate smoke in here." Which incidentally, I've never heard, but the point is, that you simply come off like an ANTZ when you speak so disparagingly about smokes.

I swear that some ex-smokers bother me far more than non-smokers. I'm convinced that the worst ANTZ in this world are ex-smokers. Also not looking forward to the era when there's more ex-vapers around than vapers.

Well, I was just talking about a word. I wasn't talking about a group of people. I live and let live.
 

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Bunnykiller said:
yup stinkies its a negative connotation..
smoker who want to quit require the negative connotation to help them mentally disassociate themselves from cigarettes...
but consider the point when one was smoking, it supplied a source of stress relief, a method of socializing, and other things that were advantagious during that time. Did we use terms that were "antismoking" while we were engaged in that habit/ritual? I didnt...
and now since we want to quit, we use such terms...

Actually, I did. I routinely used the exact words "well time to go pound another nail in my coffin" and also "time to go pollute my lungs." I was seeking BY ANY MEANS to make it as unattractive to myself as possible, and that actually seemed to work slightly. Before I got banished outdoors with my "smellies" I was smoking 3+ pks a day; on being banished and having to smoke periodically rather than constantly, I IMMEDIATELY went down to 2 pks a day. Over about 12 yrs time, I managed to decrease that by another whole pack, so that the last 4 yrs I smoked, I never, or rarely, smoked more than a pk a day, and the past winter was so cold, that went down again, to maybe 15 cigs a day.

When I talked to my pulmonologist once about quitting smoking, he suggested it, demonizing it to myself, and also to make it as inconvenient to smoke as possible -- outdoors was a good start on that, and I also stopped buying cartons and bought 2 pks at a time. I was doing everything in my power to bring myself to once more try to quit -- what luck that e-cigs became so widely available!!!! Quitting has had a place on my personal agenda for 30 years, so I don't think it's a huge surprise that, once having discovered e-cigs and starting to vape, I found very little obstacle to finally quitting for good.

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I've decided, after a lot of thinking, lots of soul-searching, that I'm going to punch in the face the next person who uses the word "stinkies" in front of me. I hate it that much... ;)

...now I'm off to text the girl I see most every weekend who uses that hated term all the time (to warn her ;)
 

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When I read "stinkies," seriously, it goes right up my back. It sounds sooo judgmental, ellitist, condescending, biased, shaming and self-righteous. You would think x-smokers had had enough of being the targets of all of those not to turn around and use words that even come close to any of those to describe something used by a group they used to belong to and many still do have their toe in. It really makes me wonder what noobs who are still smoking or thinking of taking up vaping think of vapers. I mean, I know its used "innocently" to describe something they don't like the smell of any more but, really, some thought about the affects of words should be considered. I don't like analogs either for that matter. I say "smokes" and that covers it well enough without approaching a moral value system. At home and once on the boards, I think, I referred to them as "antiques" which is how I classify them really. To those who say "stinkies"... I don't mean to offend. Its just how hearing that affects me. Whatever.

Edit: Well, I got pretty riled there LOL I need to add that I didn't read the thread, just the OP, on the chance I would see lame attempts at the indefensible being defended... just not in the mood for it today.
 
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I've decided, after a lot of thinking, lots of soul-searching, that I'm going to punch in the face the next person who uses the word "stinkies" in front of me. I hate it that much... ;)

...now I'm off to text the girl I see most every weekend who uses that hated term all the time (to warn her ;)

Hahahaha! Funny
 

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Playing the devil's advocate here. This is a forum of ex-smokers, and potential ex-smokers. Cigarettes are what they are. They stink. I know I sprayed the perfume and chomped on gum thinking that would get rid of the smell. It doesn't. I hate to sound mean, just being honest.

I switched fully to vaping after my first vape break. Right then, I realized what smoking was doing to my body. Many people I see on this forum saying that they smoke and vape, but want to know what to do to fully switch to vaping. They realized what smoking is doing to their bodies too.


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Playing the devil's advocate here. This is a forum of ex-smokers, and potential ex-smokers. Cigarettes are what they are. They stink. I know I sprayed the perfume and chomped on gum thinking that would get rid of the smell. It doesn't. I hate to sound mean, just being honest.

Lots of things have an odor. Whether it is pleasant or unpleasant depends on perspective. I think most smokers do not think it stinks, and instead think their chosen brand/flavor tastes (and smells) pretty good. I also think smokers know it has a lingering odor that sticks to most things, and are so accustomed to living with it, that they don't really care if it offends.

Yet, those last few words are what opens it up to attack/scrutiny. I notice almost all alcohol drinkers do not care that their drink stinks (from my perspective). Don't care that their breath is clearly reeking of alcohol, regardless of how much gum or whatever they use to mask that smell. Babies sometimes put out some god awful foul odors and obviously don't care even a little bit. Imagine me going into home where there's a toddler and saying, "where is that little stinky?" Mom and dad then seem offended, and I'm like, "what? I'm just being honest."
 

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Yet, those last few words are what opens it up to attack/scrutiny. I notice almost all alcohol drinkers do not care that their drink stinks (from my perspective). Don't care that their breath is clearly reeking of alcohol, regardless of how much gum or whatever they use to mask that smell. Babies sometimes put out some god awful foul odors and obviously don't care even a little bit. Imagine me going into home where there's a toddler and saying, "where is that little stinky?" Mom and dad then seem offended, and I'm like, "what? I'm just being honest."

I have yet to smell a drink that has an odor strong enough to fill a room, and of course they don't have to care what their breath smells like, until they are pulled over and face to face with a cop.

Babies do fill their diapers, but they do mind if the contents are left there to irritate the skin. I have seen strangers scold parents for letting their kids sit in a nasty diaper. I have seen kids left sitting in dirty diapers, and they don't look like happy campers at all.

Smoking is okay, booze breath is okay, dirty diapers are okay, but why do we not audibly and proudly pass gas in public, among strangers?

I am happy to read this forum! The success stories, the advice, the gear, the vendors, the people. I feel blessed with this alternative to smoking. Whether they are called stinkies/stinkys, analogs/analogues, coffin nails, cancer sticks, antiques, relics, smokes, cigarettes, whatever... I am glad it is in the past! I can't honestly believe there is a debate here over what to call smoking...

And I forgot squares! Over and out.


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everybody knows to make a word plural you add an "S".

ya'll is incorrect. the correct plural for you is yous.

In some places north of the Mason-Dixon line, the plural of "you" is "youse guys." :p


But, the only thing I remember about the B&H commercials was the bent cigarette running into a car window... never in 39 years of smoking did I see a cigarette bend that way... if you run a lit cigarette into anything, it's just sparks flying everywhere! Instead of that wry look on the smoker's face in the ads, you'd see what appears to be a certifiable connimption fit as the poor smoker tries to keep from burning holes in his clothes! :facepalm: I did that dance quite often, in fact. :D

Andria


"A silly millimeter longer (101) . . ." :laugh:


[T]he point is, that you simply come off like an ANTZ when you speak so disparagingly about smokes.

I swear that some ex-smokers bother me far more than non-smokers. I'm convinced that the worst ANTZ in this world are ex-smokers. Also not looking forward to the era when there's more ex-vapers around than vapers.

When I read "stinkies," seriously, it goes right up my back. It sounds sooo judgmental, ellitist, condescending, biased, shaming and self-righteous. You would think x-smokers had had enough of being the targets of all of those not to turn around and use words that even come close to any of those to describe something used by a group they used to belong to and many still do have their toe in. It really makes me wonder what noobs who are still smoking or thinking of taking up vaping think of vapers. I mean, I know its used "innocently" to describe something they don't like the smell of any more but, really, some thought about the affects of words should be considered. I don't like analogs either for that matter. I say "smokes" and that covers it well enough without approaching a moral value system.


Yep. Such terms serve only to demonize cigarettes and the people who smoke them; after smoking for 35 years and being near-universally demonized for it for at least the last 20 of those years, I personally have had enough of smoker demonization, and I will not do it to others! :glare:

I use the term "cigs" or "cigarettes." It's what I always called them when I was a smoker, and I see NO reason to call them anything else now.
 

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"A silly millimeter longer (101) . . ." :laugh:

ROFL!!! You sound like my husband... :D







Yep. Such terms serve only to demonize cigarettes and the people who smoke them; after smoking for 35 years and being near-universally demonized for it for at least the last 20 of those years, I personally have had enough of smoker demonization, and I will not do it to others! :glare:

I use the term "cigs" or "cigarettes." It's what I always called them when I was a smoker, and I see NO reason to call them anything else now.

I don't want to demonize them either; they're already in the firm grip of a nasty demon called tobacco, and I thought I would NEVER get free of that SOB. When I see folks smoking, all I really feel is pity; they either haven't yet heard of e-cigs, or they've tried cigalikes and then dismissed ALL e-cigs based on their experience with cigalikes, or they just don't believe anything that seems much too good to be true. The first couple weeks I was here, still a smoker, when folks would carry on about how easy it was to quit, with e-cigs, although I was very hopeful that it might be easy for me too, in the back of my mind there was always that cynical "yeah, right." I had to see and experience the drastic decline in my smoking *without even trying to cut down* before I really believed that I could really do this, this time.

I usually called 'em "butts" -- and when I smoked during commercials, had to do it REALLYREALLYFAST... so I'd go "suck down a ....." :D

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I don't want to demonize them either; they're already in the firm grip of a nasty demon called tobacco, and I thought I would NEVER get free of that SOB.
That's a very good point. I think I'll change my attitude towards smokers now. I've always despised hypocrisy, and there is no greater shame I feel than when I catch myself inadvertently being a hypocrite.
 
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