Yep, certainly the type of representation I am looking for............
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Yep, certainly the type of representation I am looking for............
No one mentioned hiding it or not using it. I for one use mine everywhere. If you feel the need to get in everyone's face and shut their a** down. Then you're the man and I'm glad you finally found a way to get back at the world for picking on you.
I vape in designated smoking areas as well. I know that my vape is not going to affect anyone physically the way an analog would, but I also realize that people who have no idea what vapor is will tend to react the same way they react to analog smoke and it would be offensive to them. I don't see much difference, if people are offended, they are offended. These folks who will get on the anti e-cig bandwagon especially if someone offends them intentionally with it. I choose not to put myself in a position to offend anyone. I do, however vape obscurely now and then when there is nobody around to see it.
Well, I am not in Indy, but am just about 40 miles or so north of there. Slightly south and west of Kokomo.
My opinion: I think that vaping in designated smoking areas is the worst thing we could do for our cause!
It creates the public perception that even we think there is something offensive or harmful about our vapor for bystanders, and/or that it is somehow equivalent to cigarette smoke. That is precisely the wrong message to be sending.
It is not smoke, it does not have that pervasive, lingering, unpleasant smell, and I won't treat it as if it did.
As I posted earlier today in Surf Monkey's thread in the Campaigning sub-section of the forum, I've used my ecig just about anywhere and everywhere I've gone over the past 8 months, using common sense and common courtesy and discreteness, but nonetheless using it, except in places or situations where I deem it simply inappropriate. I use it in restaurants, movie theaters, airports, stores, etc, etc. I will not go to a designated smoking area with one.
No one has ever been angered. No one has ever been upset, or challenged me in any way. Most of the time, no one even notices. I suppose it helps that I don't use a device that looks anything like a cigarette, but I think it's also my manner in using it. It is not an "in anyones face" sort of use. It is simply an "I'm merely going about my everyday business not bothering anyone" sort of use, that simply does not impact others.
It creates the public perception that even we think there is something offensive or harmful about our vapor for bystanders, and/or that it is somehow equivalent to cigarette smoke. That is precisely the wrong message to be sending.
It is not smoke, it does not have that pervasive, lingering, unpleasant smell, and I won't treat it as if it did.As I posted earlier today in Surf Monkey's thread in the Campaigning sub-section of the forum, I've used my ecig just about anywhere and everywhere I've gone over the past 8 months, using common sense and common courtesy and discreteness, but nonetheless using it, except in places or situations where I deem it simply inappropriate. I use it in restaurants, movie theaters, airports, stores, etc, etc. I will not go to a designated smoking area with one.
No one has ever been angered. No one has ever been upset, or challenged me in any way. Most of the time, no one even notices. I suppose it helps that I don't use a device that looks anything like a cigarette, but I think it's also my manner in using it. It is not an "in anyones face" sort of use. It is simply an "I'm merely going about my everyday business not bothering anyone" sort of use, that simply does not impact others.
My opinion: I think that vaping in designated smoking areas is the worst thing we could do for our cause!
It creates the public perception that even we think there is something offensive or harmful about our vapor for bystanders, and/or that it is somehow equivalent to cigarette smoke. That is precisely the wrong message to be sending.
As I posted earlier today in Surf Monkey's thread in the Campaigning sub-section of the forum, I've used my ecig just about anywhere and everywhere I've gone over the past 8 months, using common sense and common courtesy and discreteness, but nonetheless using it, except in places or situations where I deem it simply inappropriate. I use it in restaurants, movie theaters, airports, stores, etc, etc. I will not go to a designated smoking area with one.
No one has ever been angered. No one has ever been upset, or challenged me in any way. Most of the time, no one even notices. I suppose it helps that I don't use a device that looks anything like a cigarette, but I think it's also my manner in using it. It is not an "in anyones face" sort of use. It is simply an "I'm merely going about my everyday business not bothering anyone" sort of use, that simply does not impact others.
I admire you for doing what I am too chicken to do.
I have to admit, it did take a while for me to feel comfortable. In fact, a year ago January when I first tried ecigs for a couple of months (I didn't last that time due to device unreliability), I was just as timid about it.
So take heart, you may well evolve with it too.
I have to agree with you and for most of the same reasons. It's all about common sense and not using it when inappropriate.
I feel that a lot of times a smoker may see me vaping and get the idea, "Heck - I didn't realize smoking was allowed in here." and they just start going to town. I was at a friend's party Saturday night and there were a lot of smokers. All of them were politely going outside our friend's house and more people were outside than in because the smokers outnumbered the non-smokers. I started vaping my black 510 outside along with the rest of the crowd that was out there but I just went about it like it was no big deal until someone realized I only looked like I was smoking!
Then I got the questions and got to show off and explain. I did not start vaping in our friend's house until after the whole 'what is it' scene because I did not want any of the smokers to get the wrong idea! My friend would not have appreciated having to tell a smoker to please take it outside because they thought they saw me doing it so it must be okay.
I'm also conscious about doing it around my friend's kids but I've explained it to my own kids as an 'adult thing' similar to coffee and alcoholic drinks. They aren't allowed those and they aren't allowed this. "No it isn't smoking. I guess it looks kind of neat but that's not why I'm doing it. Only adults can have these. In the winter I'll show you how you can make 'smoke' like that too. Now go away."
I think that's a great attitude. With the FDA looming over our heads, I feel we have to be extra careful. We have to figure out ways to stay positive in the public eye.
That is my take on it as well Corki---I choose to not put myself in that postiion either.
Agree with you here Jim. That is my postion on it --------Sun
I clearly said "getting in someone's face about it" NOT "getting in someone's face with it". Why don't you try READING what I acutally wrote before popping off about it? Again I got no problems calling BS with anyone who is clearly out of bounds (including you).
"Treat me good, I'll treat you better. Treat me bad, I'll treat you worse" ~ Sonny Barger
My goal in coming here was not to "represent" anyone. Especially someone who has "intolerant of ... clowns" on his profile. Whilst I am flattered I think you should look elsewhere for a role model....
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I am afraid that it almost doesn't matter if vaping is harmful or not. Once more people start vaping, we will start seeing "NO SMOKING/VAPING" signs. Human Resources departments in business will do the same and proclaim work space to be no-vaping places. It is just easier to do than letting people vape. I am sure that if vaping at the workplace becomes more visible, there will be people complaining and blaming the second-hand vapes for all kinds of problems. Yes, it may be a complete fabrication, but that will not matter.
I vape at work, but very discreetly. Nobody noticed the vapes so far. What I am afraid of is that once other smokers at work discover vaping they will take it indoors and be really brazen about it. That is one reason why I don't go outside to the smoking area to vape. I also feel really guilty about not sharing this vaping discovery with others for my selfish reasons.
Hi, i got my first E-cig (901) on jun 15th,. went to my well deserved vacation to EU. and vaped everywere i went , and all i got was ??? about de divice and some off them actually hearded about them but never seen one !,. after reading about public vaping on the E-CIG forum, i kind of prepared for some kind of rejection ! and in 15 days , i didnt have one objection on the vaping issue,. from the airport of San Juan PR, Philly international ,Frankfort Intenational,Ger., Prague,CK. Rep. ,Berlin,Amsterdam ,Belgium ,Luxemburg and Paris plus all the small towns , and Fests.that i attended .
I did vaped because i like it and not for show off, couple hits here and there to satisfy my self , and if someone asked a quiestion , i did reply to the best of my knowledege and best of all it worked, so someone out there is looking to vape soon !
thanks to, e-smokeytreats "saved by the bell on delivery" and was able to travel with my first E-Cig !
I did vaped because i like it and not for show off, couple hits here and there to satisfy my self , and if someone asked a quiestion , i did reply to the best of my knowledege and best of all it worked, so someone out there is looking to vape soon !
thanks to, e-smokeytreats "saved by the bell on delivery" and was able to travel with my first E-Cig !
Excellent Orioin58..
I too use mine anywhere I feel the need to do so. I don't make a big deal about, I just do it. Even at work they commented that it was good that I was able to stay at my desk now instead of having to go outside.
Was at the gate in Newark last week and saw another guy using his. He had VG based fluid and was blowing huge clouds of vapor and even smoke rings. I did not go over and join him or even show him that I had a 510 too. Didn't feel the need to use it at that time. However once I got on the plane, I hit mine a few times. The stewardess saw me and came down the isle and said "Please turn off those headphones during take off".
Not a single word about the 510 that I was huffing on.... The guy with the VG based fluid was hitting his on the plane (several seats in front of me) and NOTHING was said to him either.
I (like you) had prepared myself for a possible altercation on the subject but it simply hasn't happened. Sooooooo I'm kinda taking the stance that this particular topic is like an episode of Seinfeld (much to do about nothing). Meaning: If people act like its a big deal while they're using it, others will follow suit.
Happy Huffing!
I too use mine anywhere I feel the need to do so. I don't make a big deal about, I just do it. Even at work they commented that it was good that I was able to stay at my desk now instead of having to go outside.
Was at the gate in Newark last week and saw another guy using his. He had VG based fluid and was blowing huge clouds of vapor and even smoke rings. I did not go over and join him or even show him that I had a 510 too. Didn't feel the need to use it at that time. However once I got on the plane, I hit mine a few times. The stewardess saw me and came down the isle and said "Please turn off those headphones during take off".
Not a single word about the 510 that I was huffing on.... The guy with the VG based fluid was hitting his on the plane (several seats in front of me) and NOTHING was said to him either.
I (like you) had prepared myself for a possible altercation on the subject but it simply hasn't happened. Sooooooo I'm kinda taking the stance that this particular topic is like an episode of Seinfeld (much to do about nothing). Meaning: If people act like its a big deal while they're using it, others will follow suit.
Happy Huffing!
Gotta agree with most of you on this. A "passive resistance" approach serves our cause well. My wife and I have been analog free for two months now and use our PV's when and where we feel it is appropriate. When we go out to eat we explain what we are doing, dismantling our equipment to demonstrate what it is and how it works. We usually get a smile and a "Cool. where can I get one?"
There has been only one time we got a complete "anti smoke nazi" approach and that was at BJ's. The waitress kept saying they don't allow smoking and we carefully attempted to explain what we were doing. She asked if we wanted to speak to the manager. We said yes, waited five minutes the just said "ta heck with this BS" and left. I will only spend my money where I am treated with respect.
I do feel it goes back to language. Refer to PV's as an "E-cigarette" and people, sometimes, recoil under the old premises and propaganda. Personal Vaporizer is such an innocuous term, that people asking you about it eventually ask if it can be used to quit smoking. Now that I find interesting...
There has been only one time we got a complete "anti smoke nazi" approach and that was at BJ's. The waitress kept saying they don't allow smoking and we carefully attempted to explain what we were doing. She asked if we wanted to speak to the manager. We said yes, waited five minutes the just said "ta heck with this BS" and left. I will only spend my money where I am treated with respect.
I do feel it goes back to language. Refer to PV's as an "E-cigarette" and people, sometimes, recoil under the old premises and propaganda. Personal Vaporizer is such an innocuous term, that people asking you about it eventually ask if it can be used to quit smoking. Now that I find interesting...
The only response I get when I vape in public are tons of questions!! If the people asking me for information are not smokers, they have family or friends that are. I always refer them to this forum before purchasing a kit.
Poor you.....your really took on a tough house on your 1st vaping try in public.
I give you 5 stars for bravery!
Even me, who loves, just loves to push the envelope (who use to travel without a passport, before 911, just to prove I can) would pick & choose my moments. I probably would have vaped thro the entire movie, but I would have hid the vape by blowing it into my popcorn box.
Just focus on getting people excited about your new toy. Curiosity always wins them over to your side. Then, when you have their attention, explain that it is water vapor.....now you have gained approval.
They think that I am doing some sort of magic trick the way I do it. Sucking on a black plastic cylinder with a green light then blowing out smoke. You should see their eyes lite up like little children watching a magic act. lololol They just love it, they really do. And then, even the ones that don't smoke at all want one. lololol
You heard of The Law of Attraction, well, you attract what you think. Me, I just think having fun, and somehow that generates to those around me. Try real hard not to think fear. Just think fun. Smile a lot. Its contagious. Just try it and watch the different reaction around your vaping experience.
(Just walk around like Howdie Doodie)
It works, trust me, I really does.And remember, if your going to take on a huge theater, just blow your vape discretely. If they can't see the vape, then they won't know your vaping as there is no smell.
I've only been vaping for a month, but this is how I've handled public vaping. I've vaped indoors in a darkened auditorium, cupping my hand around the light. No one noticed the vapor or objected.
I've vaped in bathroom stalls where no one can tell what I've done. I always vape right up to the point where I am entering the door of places, then enjoy the shock that I cause by pushing my "lit cig" into my cleavage...
I vape out-of-doors everywhere. No complaints yet.
I've not tried vaping in a restaurant...but would if I used their bathroom.
In short, I was a polite smoker and will be a polite vaper. The only folks that I've thrown my weight around with are my grown children. I've explained the vaping to them and have told them that now that I no longer smoke, I expect to vape in their homes. If they want my babysitting services, then my vaping comes with me. They are very enthused about the vaping and all have agreed!
By the way, I refuse to call it my e cig...I call it my vaporizer with flavored liquids...except when talking to a smoker that I'm glad to share the info with.
Jan
I've vaped in bathroom stalls where no one can tell what I've done. I always vape right up to the point where I am entering the door of places, then enjoy the shock that I cause by pushing my "lit cig" into my cleavage...
I vape out-of-doors everywhere. No complaints yet.
I've not tried vaping in a restaurant...but would if I used their bathroom.
In short, I was a polite smoker and will be a polite vaper. The only folks that I've thrown my weight around with are my grown children. I've explained the vaping to them and have told them that now that I no longer smoke, I expect to vape in their homes. If they want my babysitting services, then my vaping comes with me. They are very enthused about the vaping and all have agreed!
By the way, I refuse to call it my e cig...I call it my vaporizer with flavored liquids...except when talking to a smoker that I'm glad to share the info with.
Jan
then enjoy the shock that I cause by pushing my "lit cig" into my cleavage...
WAY TO GO, LOVE IT!!! The shock/entertainment value of that alone is worth letting you vape. And you are so right.....no need to mention the cig word or nicotine at all. Unless of course to a bona fide smoker.
"My doctor told me that I should use a personal vaporizer if I wanted to keep my cats, as I am allergic."
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