Titanium wires
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I've been think about making an ultrasonic atty for a while
, just like those humidifiers that ionize water, all you'd have to do is get one small and powerful enough to vape thick VG and boom, million dollar idea.
You don't have to dry burn coils whatsoever, I've never vaped anything that completely covers my coils so they don't vape the liquid though. Does that actually happen? I'm primarily a dripper, and when my coils get "gunked up" it's not really a problem, it vapes just a well and doesn't affect the flavor either. As long as your coils aren't covered in more than a mm of caramelized juice, theoretically it shouldn't make any difference in the temperature it gets too.
I may have not had a bad enough gunking juice though, I know real tobacco and fruit extracts will really do a number on your coils, so I'm not that knowledgeable on gunk. I do understand the twitch just the sight of dirty coils gives me though
, it may just be an unnecessary habit however, especially since these titanium wires are really low resistance, and look like they heat up quite easily.
I did a pretty in depth look into titanium a few pages back if that'd interest you, as soon as I know exactly what the wire is made of, it's not hard to look at the already studied empirical evidence on whether a certain element is safe to "inhale" whether burned, cool, in liquid, or the oxide resultant.
This isn't rocket science, or going from fire to electricity, so there's no reason for all the stress and fuss lol. If you can tell me exactly what the wire is made of, and how it's made, I can tell you whether it's safe...period. Alot of people get really stressed over whether the new wick/wire on the block will kill them, but it's actually really easy to find out. For instance the recent rayon discovery, it's a synthetically made natural fiber made from wood cellulose. And people saw the word "synthetic" and freaked out, almost like they were vaping with rubber tires. But in actuality all rayon is, is fine sawdust, melted in caustic soda (which can be harful in large doses), however the caustic soda is removed once the fibers solidify. So, after those 5 minutes of me researching, I found out Rayon is completely fine, and I could tell you that because I vaped it for a long time with absolutely no ill affects. 1 year later and I'm still running marathons, and weight lifting.
If titanium is the ONLY element in titanium wire, then I can GUARANTEE that (unless your allergic to titanium) it's not dangerous. If there's another additive like a processing chemical/substance, or another metal even, then I'd have to look into it more. But it's been known for nearly 200 years through scientific empirical testing (which you can find online or your local library), that titanium and it's oxide aren't bad for your health, unless your inhaling grams and grams of the oxide over decades (as found in metal factory workers), and even then inhaling simple desert sand will cause those problems, all it is is irritation, that no vaper under possible circumstances will ever encounter.
I don't think Imeo deserves to be treated like shady tobacco executives of the 1940's, that's just my opinion.
Mother, you are new here and you dont know about yankee, so better lets stay on subject. The rest of the stuff is out of interest
Hey guys, this is almost completely unrelated, but I was at the dentist today and found out about NiTi thermo-elastic wire (Nickel/Titanium thermal memory wire). Although I'm not positive on the nickle content, how cool would it be to have coils made of this stuff!? Imagine, coils that move back into shape when heated!
I think it would be awesome to have a company that makes pre-made coils of this stuff, as you use them, they only become more perfect! You could bend them around a thicker wick than it's original (memorized) size, that way when they heat up, they'd actually squeeze your wick. I'm having a nerd-gasm watching this, I want to get some (not to vape...yet, because I don't know anything about it really, other than it's used for medical purposes) just to have fun with!
I think it would be awesome to have a company that makes pre-made coils of this stuff, as you use them, they only become more perfect! You could bend them around a thicker wick than it's original (memorized) size, that way when they heat up, they'd actually squeeze your wick. I'm having a nerd-gasm watching this, I want to get some (not to vape...yet, because I don't know anything about it really, other than it's used for medical purposes) just to have fun with!
exactly seek. And about mesh too that is the most dangerous of all
I do believe that mesh is a mess because I think whoever vapes it.. he suck the rust.
I also believe that silica wicks are healthier than cotton etc because I think it can't be burned.
I believe that vaping up to 10-12watts is a must and we have to stop being lung inhalers or even trains, just for a silly fashion habit that could be doing major damage to us.
I believe that ESG titanium wires are the safest wires at the moment because I think that only a biocompatible material must vaporize our liquids.
Do I have to prove all these to anyone?
No I don't... because these are my humble opinions and I'm here to discuss these things and not to change your minds.
Forums exist to discuss our opinions. Some of us form an opinion of what he has read or heard of simple friends and some of us form an opinion of what he has read or heard of doctors.. chemists... etc.
Stop demanding evidences for everything because I don't have (or I don't want to give you at the moment) any evidence that I'm not gay.
I'm telling you I am not.
You don't believe me?
Skip me... skip the thread.. but please don't try to f@#* me.
I also believe that silica wicks are healthier than cotton etc because I think it can't be burned.
I believe that vaping up to 10-12watts is a must and we have to stop being lung inhalers or even trains, just for a silly fashion habit that could be doing major damage to us.
I believe that ESG titanium wires are the safest wires at the moment because I think that only a biocompatible material must vaporize our liquids.
Do I have to prove all these to anyone?
No I don't... because these are my humble opinions and I'm here to discuss these things and not to change your minds.
Forums exist to discuss our opinions. Some of us form an opinion of what he has read or heard of simple friends and some of us form an opinion of what he has read or heard of doctors.. chemists... etc.
Stop demanding evidences for everything because I don't have (or I don't want to give you at the moment) any evidence that I'm not gay.
I'm telling you I am not.
You don't believe me?
Skip me... skip the thread.. but please don't try to f@#* me.
Hey guys, this is almost completely unrelated, but I was at the dentist today and found out about NiTi thermo-elastic wire (Nickel/Titanium thermal memory wire). Although I'm not positive on the nickle content, how cool would it be to have coils made of this stuff!? Imagine, coils that move back into shape when heated!
I think it would be awesome to have a company that makes pre-made coils of this stuff, as you use them, they only become more perfect! You could bend them around a thicker wick than it's original (memorized) size, that way when they heat up, they'd actually squeeze your wick. I'm having a nerd-gasm watching this, I want to get some (not to vape...yet, because I don't know anything about it really, other than it's used for medical purposes) just to have fun with!
Here's a cooler video, with a spring (in the shape of a vaping coil to get the idea). Don't mind the slightly creepy narrarator
.yes, you have to stop using these atomizers Jonny. It was someone's idea before 1-2 years, someone's that didnt know anything about metals. I am screaming about this issue for a very long time but only a few people listen.
Many people are vaping everything that someone suggested and now we need evidence for a biocompatible material (almost the only one around)?
The evidence is all around the internet. Is there a reason for laboratory tests when they have been done a lot of years ago from serious scientists? We need a research from a small laboratory in our neighborhood?
STOP BURNING METALS AND USE BIOCOMPATIBLE MATERIALS. Please hear a man that is mechanical engineer and makes his homework on many things.
I was screaming about brass before some years and now people realised what I was talking about.
Please do as I suggest you before damage is done.
After 5,5 years on ecf I think that you know how I think and who I am. Its not about money because I dont care a lot about them in general. (I dont make any money by the way from titanium wires).
Many people are vaping everything that someone suggested and now we need evidence for a biocompatible material (almost the only one around)?
The evidence is all around the internet. Is there a reason for laboratory tests when they have been done a lot of years ago from serious scientists? We need a research from a small laboratory in our neighborhood?
STOP BURNING METALS AND USE BIOCOMPATIBLE MATERIALS. Please hear a man that is mechanical engineer and makes his homework on many things.
I was screaming about brass before some years and now people realised what I was talking about.
Please do as I suggest you before damage is done.
After 5,5 years on ecf I think that you know how I think and who I am. Its not about money because I dont care a lot about them in general. (I dont make any money by the way from titanium wires).
I am impressed tree!!
Here's a cooler video, with a spring (in the shape of a vaping coil to get the idea). Don't mind the slightly creepy narrarator
Back in the 60s people had the opinion that smoking was good for you because it relieved stress. If you want to be safe you need scientific facts and not speculation.
So we don't have to talk in here?
Do you drink Coca-Cola? Do you have any proof of what does contains?
You don't know but you drink it
Do you vape Halo liquids? Do you have any proof of what are the matterials made of?
You don't know but you vape them.
And you know something?
I'll try to convince Vasilis not to announce the grade or the quality or the trick of these titanium wires.
Who knows... maybe some day becomes rich after the worldwide recognition
How does marine grade ss mesh rust? I think the mesh that you tested (if indeed you have tested any) was of a poor quality.
Do you have to prove it to anyone - yes, that would be a very good idea if you did.
You also say you "believe" silica is better than cotton because it can't be burned - cotton doesn't burn in an atomizer because it is cooled by the juice.
And whilst titanium may well be biocompatible, we do not inhale the wire, we inhale the vapour the heated juice produces.
Too much belief on this thread and not a shred of proof.
Do you have to prove it to anyone - yes, that would be a very good idea if you did.
You also say you "believe" silica is better than cotton because it can't be burned - cotton doesn't burn in an atomizer because it is cooled by the juice.
And whilst titanium may well be biocompatible, we do not inhale the wire, we inhale the vapour the heated juice produces.
Too much belief on this thread and not a shred of proof.
So we don't have to talk in here?
Do you drink Coca-Cola? Do you have any proof of what does contains?
You don't know but you drink it
Do you vape Halo liquids? Do you have any proof of what are the matterials made of?
You don't know but you vape them.
And you know something?
I'll try to convince Vasilis not to announce the grade or the quality or the trick of these titanium wires.
Who knows... maybe some day becomes rich after the worldwide recognition
Manufactures are required by law to disclose the constituents of anything we consume. A can of coke has a clear label on it naming everything found in the can. The same applies to any other processed or prepared item for any sort of consumption.
But yes I don't really care about the ingredients of any item, I mostly care about the consequences and that was part of my point. I do care for example if silica fibrils end up sitting in my alveoli.
My other point refers to this:
Any person relying on their humble opinion is not safe practice; you need factual evidence of potential consequences.
Ok I heard you both... no need to recur the same repeated requests
Not requesting anything from anyone specific here. I'm just saying that there's a lot of hand waviness and speculation on both sides and no inference. I know X & Y are indecently true, therefore X + Y must be true; not quite so...
When you heat stuff up and inhale them (not ingest) it's a bit more complicated because X or Y may no longer be true.
this thread is turning a bit nasty, don't let the good vibe goes away gents ...
The good thing I realized is that now, the vaping community has really taken the control: we vape what we want ... not what industries or governments tell us to vape ... fighting to know IF there a small amount of Ti, Ni, or Fe oxyde in what we inhale if a huge positive step, when thinking that few months/years ago, we were all happily inhaling large amounts of carbon monoxyde, tar, amonium and plenty of other s*%$itty stuff
The good thing I realized is that now, the vaping community has really taken the control: we vape what we want ... not what industries or governments tell us to vape ... fighting to know IF there a small amount of Ti, Ni, or Fe oxyde in what we inhale if a huge positive step, when thinking that few months/years ago, we were all happily inhaling large amounts of carbon monoxyde, tar, amonium and plenty of other s*%$itty stuff
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