Titanium wires

[imeothanasis]

Is that what I think it was ??? tilemachos inside ????

yes Its. Tilemahos has bigger space inside housing and it can accept cotton very easy. And as I have said, the coil is hitted by air in the right way, so the result is what you saw in the video yesterday

 

[Itshak]

It's look very very interesting.
Also the channels looks different ...like they are not part of the outer threads of rebuildable ?? If that can be??
Or maybe it was just a camera blur .

it was written also thats it's a dripper ?? Lol what going on .

 

[imeothanasis]

1. Inhalation of a material is almost always much worse than eating it because lungs are much more sensitive than your stomach. Doctors all over the world agree on this Jerm.
2. Oxidising a metal, small particles are produced because you brake the continous of its surface.
3. Dont wait to see a research of an issue when its so obvious that its an issue and when all the articles say that titanium is the way to go for several reasons
4. Oxides are dangerous materials. Google it and you will understand what metal oxides are. Then you will see what we are talking about

I see there's evidence that the oxidation of any metal coil MAY be hazardous. I'm wondering if there's any evidence that it has actually been hazardous to vapers. That may be out of the scope of this thread, but if there's any sources that show proof that people's health has been effected in a negative way I'd be curious to see them.

If titanium is theoretically safer than Kanthal and Nichrome, I do indeed see that as a good thing. If the oxidation of wire has been proven harmful to vapers based on real studies instead of speculation, I think that info would be VERY important to vapers. I'm not asking that this thread provides sources to research that has been done, but if this info is based on speculation and theory I think it's important that that's noted.

Dry burning my coils is something I do very often, because I vape juices like NETs that gunk up coils quick. If the reason that is harmful is just theory, it's not reason enough for me personally to stop. If it's actually been tested and proven to be harmful to vapers, that's a more convincing reason. There's just so much we do as vapers that in theory may be harmful, but the proper testing to find out the extent of that harm hasn't been done. That's why vaping is considered harm reduction, and not harmless.

 

[super_X_drifter]

What atty is that imeo? Is it a bottom feed atty?

Thank you.

 

[imeothanasis]

It's look very very interesting.
Also the channels looks different ...like they are not part of the outer threads of rebuildable ?? If that can be??
Or maybe it was just a camera blur .

it was written also thats it's a dripper ?? Lol what going on .

The trick on Tilemahos is that even if its like Penelope V3 and Ithaka, it has some differences Its. One of these differences is that it has bigger room inside housing and cotton can be put there without a problem

 

[imeothanasis]

What atty is that imeo? Is it a bottom feed atty?

Thank you.

I thank you too superx

its the new GG atomizer that I am making as we speak. Its almost like penelope v3

 

[Itshak]

The trick on Tilemahos is that even if its like Penelope V3 and Ithaka, it has some differences Its. One of these differences is that it has bigger room inside housing and cotton can be put there without a problem

So by doing so we force the air to hit only direct below the coil....?
And not bypass from the sides..

 

[Aal_]

What atty is that imeo? Is it a bottom feed atty?

Thank you.

Superx all imeo's atties have the same design in terms of air. They all have an open positive post from the bottom and 2 holes on the 510 connector that lead to the open post. It is not easy to use it as bottom feeder as air and liquid would be pushed from the same hole, you know what I mean. A side airhole won't work as well since the coil is always sitting in a housing so it's not feasible for air to hit the coil unobstructed.

This is a new atty that imeo is working on called tilemahos.

 

[Itshak]

Also we have more juice volume capacity on the wick...

 

[imeothanasis]

air always hit the coil the right way but what we do on Tilemahos by putting cotton inside housing is to keep the wick very saturated like drippers. The difference with drippers is that the air hits the coil exactly where it has to hit it so the vapor production on direct inhaling is really crazy. And of course its a tank so dripping is over

 

[imeothanasis]

thats true too Its. The capacity when wick is saturated is increased from 3,5 ml to more than 4 ml

Also we have more juice volume capacity on the wick...

 

[imeothanasis]

This is tilemahos for esterigon aal. The base for other mods is not like this exactly but you are close enough

Superx all imeo's atties have the same design in terms of air. They all have an open positive post from the bottom and 2 holes on the 510 connector that lead to the open post. It is not easy to use it as bottom feeder as air and liquid would be pushed from the same hole, you know what I mean. A side airhole won't work as well since the coil is always sitting in a housing so it's not feasible for air to hit the coil unobstructed.

This is a new atty that imeo is working on called tilemahos.

 

[soulseek]

The trick on Tilemahos is that even if its like Penelope V3 and Ithaka, it has some differences Its. One of these differences is that it has bigger room inside housing and cotton can be put there without a problem

You can still do the same with Penelope but not as well. I tried it last week with V3 and no o-ring for direct inhaling; was getting weird looks everywhere.

 

[imeothanasis]

ahahaha, thats one great way seek. Another way is to put o-ring back, put cotton exactly where you put it last week and keep your mouth semi-opened around mouthpiece

 

[Jerms]

1. Inhalation of a material is almost always much worse than eating it because lungs are much more sensitive than your stomach. Doctors all over the world agree on this Jerm.
2. Oxidising a metal, small particles are produced because you brake the continous of its surface.
3. Dont wait to see a research of an issue when its so obvious that its an issue and when all the articles say that titanium is the way to go for several reasons
4. Oxides are dangerous materials. Google it and you will understand what metal oxides are. Then you will see what we are talking about

Thanks for the info. Honestly, I'm not that interested in researching the harm of metal oxides. I already believe that what your saying is true, and don't need more proof that inhaling metal oxides can be dangerous. I'm interested in the actual proof that the practices we've done as vapers for the last 20 years has caused demonstratable harm. There's too much variables with vaping that MAY turn out to be harmful but has yet to be proven harmful; if I was to take the advice of all those claims that are just theory into practice it would be physically impossible to even vape lol.

I'm of the opinion that to make a claim of the dangers of such wide-spread practices in vaping like using Kanthal and Nichrome, or dry burning any wire, actual proof is what's needed, not speculation. I also think that when someone presents a new product and makes claims that it's safer/healthier, it's on them to provide the actual scientific proof that the previous product was as dangerous as they say and that the new product is as safe as they say. To not do so could result in unfounded fear of what we currently use, which I find to be very irresponsible.

For now I'm done though, I already put more time into this product that's yet unnavailable than I planned to lol. I do look forward to seeing if titanium wire ends up performing in a way that I find better than Kanthal! I'm a flavor man, and if it provides better flavor for me that would be a big win.

 

[monkkx]

few months ago, you told me something about an atomizer where cotton would never be dry ... now I see what you mean can't wait for telemahos !!

back to Ti, thanks all fr your links, very informative.

 

[Itshak]

thats true too Its. The capacity when wick is saturated is increased from 3,5 ml to more than 4 ml

That's gonna be great Imeo.
real huge capacity for such small atty size.

Also no matter how hard one vape there always be juice available to coil because
Of this extra wick size.

Ohhh now I see low ohmers like bishopheels gonna ride this one like a racer.

Well it look like it gonna be a top kicker of an atty.

 

[imeothanasis]

I totally agree to all you said Its

 

[steliosss]

I'm a flavor man, and if it provides better flavor for me that would be a big win.

Be ready... you'll be surprised

 

[xpen]

I think that oxidizing a coil (by torch, or dry burning) creates an external coating - oxide, in fact - which is amorphous, thus separates us from (and keeps inside) the metal particles underneath it..

So far, I've always thought of that as a *good thing* for vaping. We vape not on a metal but on an amorphous oxide layer above it.

Then we can argue that not all oxides are created the same , and probably Ti oxide is better than Nichrome or Kanthal oxide, but the underlying principle should stay the same IMO.