Titanium wires

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billypapa

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capSteve i dont know if this is the only sample from Imeo Ti wire because many vendors send him TI wire.
Maybe this one is the best but i will ask him about that.
I am sure he will test before all of them until he finaly find the best.
The ready titanium wires from me are from a different manufactor and many people here in greece have made now the same test like we did with steliosss and they dont have any problems.
 

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Thanks Vasili yes I spoke with Steliosss and he tested it and found it excellent even when dry burning. I'm just waiting to get mine which you sent so I can post pictures so everyone can understand that this wire is totally harmless and doesn't have any problems even with dry burning or torching.
 
Got bored last night and made my first ever coil. Not with titanium, and not on a GG (I ordered a nice GG atty this week though), so why am I posting this here?
Well two reasons. Firstly, I MADE MY FIRST COIL AND IT WORKS!! W00t!! :D
And secondly, I did it without any dry burning of either wick or wire, and had no problems whatsoever. So I wanted to ask, what's the deal with everyone burning everything all the time?
The coil I made was micro, if not nano - I think. It's in the throwaway aspire 2ohm dual coil thingy that comes with an aspire tank, which sits on my EVOD.
I used .25mm kanthal and something called Voodoo Wool which I guess is similar to Ekowool. I've never seen regular silica or Ekowool so I can't comment on it.
I made the coil by sticking a needle through the centre opening of a half inch length of the voodoo wool, which is hollow like a stocking. I wrapped 5 times around with the kanthal, pulling it tight. Maybe a little too tight in retrospect, but it seems to be wicking ok. Reassembled the housing, putting a couple of drops of juice directly on the wick and then checked the resistance. 2 ohms exactly.
I impressed myself and I'm still grinning with geeky delight :D
I'm looking forward to getting creative when my atty arrives!


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Just to make sure I get this right treehead, you're saying unless I dry burn titanium wire to the point I almost melt it at over 3,140 deg F, there will not be any oxidation on its surface?

Assuming it's pure elemental Titanium. But something tells me there's another additive because they have no-resistance, and resistance versions of the wire.
 

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"As a powder or in the form of metal shavings, titanium metal poses a significant fire hazard and, when heated in air, an explosion hazard.[85] Water and carbon dioxide–based methods to extinguish fires are ineffective on burning titanium; Class D dry powder fire fighting agents must be used instead."

This is what my Google searching has found me in multiple places. A coil, if it were laying about, looks an awful lot like a metal shaving to me. I have no intentions of heating this by my face. Sure, the chemical composition of the metal might be a healthier alternative, but scorching my face off is not exactly something I'd consider healthy. Watch some YouTube videos of people heating Titanium...then tell me you want to intentionally heat it by your face. The risk may be small, but using this wire seems like an idiotic thing to do to me. I'll take the "possible" insignificant health "risks" of kanthal verses the "possibility" of titanium wire catching fire, ruining my atty that its in, and potentially harming myself as well.

The logic of this wire makes no sense to me. Feel free to use it if you wish, but when you ruin your atties and burn yourselves...don't complain to anyone about it.

I want to say that's a big "if" the titanium powder is ignited, titanium shavings (like the size of a fingernail, or titanium coils) aren't nearly small enough to be able to catch fire. I know what the article your reading is talking about, and it's not due to titanium, it's with any metal that can hold heat or has a large surface area when powdered. Basically all metals will combust/"explode" given the right *temperature*, and the right *particle size*, but in most cases, you need a fine dust close to baby powder, and a welding torch to actually ignite it.

But even aluminum will catch on fire just as easy as most metals, but again, our coils won't be anywhere near smalle enough, or hot enough to self combust (explosion is a scientific definition that doesn't always mean the hollywood type explosions, where your top cap will blast through the ceiling or anything). For example Titanium would need to be a fine dust where each particle is smaller than 420 micrometers (µm), and then you'd need a torch as hot as 1,094Farenheit to be put in the middle of that floating dust.

It's not that Titanium is flammable, it's that it's large surface area, relative to it's mass is so large, it actually acts as a "holder" for oxygen in the air to ignite when the titanium and flame heat it up. Here's some empirical evidence for what I'm talking about below, and I'll also try and find a video on it.
http://www.ehs.pitt.edu/assets/docs/combustible-metals.pdf

***EDIT: Here we go, this guy explains it better than I did :p. Just telling you so you won't be afraid to use this awesome wire.***
 
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So is removing old wick, pulsing device to remove gunk on the coil, and replacing with fresh wick no good?
guys, DONT burn metals.

The main issue here is to stop burning your metals and not what is produced, why it is produced, what will cause to our body etc.

And use BIOCOMPATIBLE metals, like you do for your water, your food, your breath
 

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because all metals, when dry burned, will quickly create an oxide layer, that could be hazardous for your health when inhaled.
There's a "soft consensus" on the fact that oxides aren't something you want to vape, so if you can live without cleaning your coils with dry burn, you're on the safe side.

That's the short version :) you might want to go through the previous pages for more opinions, more information, then make your own opinion on that ;)
 

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I'm not convinced that the wire doesn't oxide anyway, during useage. My thinking is to dry burn the coil to remove the gunk, rinse it well, replace wick, then give it a few bursts to allow a liquid film to cover any remaining oxide. That's just my totally unscientific theory though.
I've been drying burning my coils for over 2 years now with no ill effects (short term I know).
Dry burning, and torching are two different animals in my mind though. I don't torch.
 
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