Tobacco Absolute - A Flavor All By Itself.
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With the extra drops in my tank I'm probably at 2-3% and am very happy at that strength. May have to cut back on the nic level though as much as I'm vaping this. 
With the extra drops in my tank I'm probably at 2-3% and am very happy at that strength. May have to cut back on the nic level though as much as I'm vaping this.
Correction. That would be 2-3% of the 10% solution.
Is that 10% of a 10% solution? I usually do 2 - 3% of a 10% solution. How's that play on your coils. Even at 2 - 3% I'm rebuilding every 10 days or so.
Yes, 10% of the 10% solution. It comes out to 1% of raw Rustica - nothing too serious. I enjoy it very much. As for coils, I dry burn them once every 4-5 ml's. Replace them perhaps after 20 mls. I made my task much easier by buying a bunch of pre-made coils from Fasttech. Hate dealing with the company but can't beat their prices - something like $2.50 for 50 coils shipped.
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I would love a little sample. I do very much like leather.
Here's my 2 cents on a couple of Inawera Tobacco Absolutes:
First off I bought both TA's from BullCity on my last Hangsen order on recommendations in this thread.
On June 28 I built a 60/40 base with no nic then added 5% IMW Virginia TA. Mixed it like I mix all my juices then let it steep. The fact it wasn't murky sent up a red flag. After a couple weeks I had a taste and it seemed real sweet but had a little grassy taste to it. Let it sit a couple more weeks and a few days ago I made 20ml tester with 14mls No5 and 6 ml Virginia TA, added the nic to make 12nic, mixed then let sit a few more days. This morning I decided to fill up a 1.5ohm protank build and give her a whirl. Utter disappointment with this Virginia TA. There is no flavor to it, all I can taste is a bit more grassy No5 with no sharpness or edge along with now being real sweet. I'm going to end up mixing the Virginia with some RTS TA to add the sharpness that its missing and try to cut the sweetness down. Too bad I bought 2 bottles.
Same scenario with the IMW Garuda TA, 60/40 base, no nic and a month of steeping. The initial look of this TA is that its murky, good sign. I had a some tastes during its steep period and it does taste nice but it has a little more dirty taste than grassy. I did the same 20ml sample with 14ml Desert Ship and 6ml Garuda, added the nic to offset the TA. This has a nice sharp grassy flavor with a barely noticeable dirt taste but still no where near as strong as the RTS TA at 5%. I will definitely buy the Garuda again since I will go through the 10ml bottle rather quickly. I already have the Garuda concentrate used up and steeping so its ready when I run out of the old stuff.
INW Virginia--- will not buy again
INW Garuda--- will buy again
First off I bought both TA's from BullCity on my last Hangsen order on recommendations in this thread.
On June 28 I built a 60/40 base with no nic then added 5% IMW Virginia TA. Mixed it like I mix all my juices then let it steep. The fact it wasn't murky sent up a red flag. After a couple weeks I had a taste and it seemed real sweet but had a little grassy taste to it. Let it sit a couple more weeks and a few days ago I made 20ml tester with 14mls No5 and 6 ml Virginia TA, added the nic to make 12nic, mixed then let sit a few more days. This morning I decided to fill up a 1.5ohm protank build and give her a whirl. Utter disappointment with this Virginia TA. There is no flavor to it, all I can taste is a bit more grassy No5 with no sharpness or edge along with now being real sweet. I'm going to end up mixing the Virginia with some RTS TA to add the sharpness that its missing and try to cut the sweetness down. Too bad I bought 2 bottles.
Same scenario with the IMW Garuda TA, 60/40 base, no nic and a month of steeping. The initial look of this TA is that its murky, good sign. I had a some tastes during its steep period and it does taste nice but it has a little more dirty taste than grassy. I did the same 20ml sample with 14ml Desert Ship and 6ml Garuda, added the nic to offset the TA. This has a nice sharp grassy flavor with a barely noticeable dirt taste but still no where near as strong as the RTS TA at 5%. I will definitely buy the Garuda again since I will go through the 10ml bottle rather quickly. I already have the Garuda concentrate used up and steeping so its ready when I run out of the old stuff.
INW Virginia--- will not buy again
INW Garuda--- will buy again
Of the three kinds of TA I have tried so far, none has a crispiness or sharp edge to it - TA from ECX, TA from TFA's which has since been discontinued. I do get some sharpness from Rustica but not by that much. Maybe I should try RTS or Garuda. Does anyone else have an opinion on the sharpness of these two?
Still enjoying the Rustica and other TAs that I have been experimenting with.
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Speaking of blandness of Tobacco Absolutes, I found the following quote in another thread that might explain the cause of the blandness:
" The reason most TA tastes "lackluster" is that vaping/juice vendors purchase it from commercial manufacturers. These commercial manufacturers were making TA -long- before vaping appeared on the scene, the fragrance industry is their primary customer. The tobacco they use to make TA is the cheapest bulk tobacco available, the results suits the fragrance industry but isn't the best for our needs as flavor wasn't a factor or concern when it was made. TA made from premium, flavor oriented, tobacco tastes great. Try reducing a finished, filtered ethanol based tobacco extraction to its absolute form and mix juice using it. You'll wonder why all the vaping vendors peddle that bland stuff."
I am not sure whether or not Mother's Milk makes their own TA, but it would be interesting to know if their stuff is any different in blandness from others.
" The reason most TA tastes "lackluster" is that vaping/juice vendors purchase it from commercial manufacturers. These commercial manufacturers were making TA -long- before vaping appeared on the scene, the fragrance industry is their primary customer. The tobacco they use to make TA is the cheapest bulk tobacco available, the results suits the fragrance industry but isn't the best for our needs as flavor wasn't a factor or concern when it was made. TA made from premium, flavor oriented, tobacco tastes great. Try reducing a finished, filtered ethanol based tobacco extraction to its absolute form and mix juice using it. You'll wonder why all the vaping vendors peddle that bland stuff."
I am not sure whether or not Mother's Milk makes their own TA, but it would be interesting to know if their stuff is any different in blandness from others.
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Mothers milk does make there own TA and it falls some where in between Virginia and samara
Virginia is the most tasteless or taste neutral but has a good ashy foundation. I think this is what you speak of as most of these Virginia's are cheaply mass produced by big tobacco and distributed to vendors. There good for that dry ashy mixture but does lack in that rich tobacco taste.
Mothers milk has that slight ashyness but packed with flavor and a slight sweetness. Mothers milk does produce this them self as well as all there NET's. This TA is produced from Dark fronto tobacco leaves. I find that it is a good all round TA that packs great tobacco flavor as well as a mild ash. I had the pleasure of reviewing this TA before it's initial offering on there site some months back. You can read my review on this on there selling page.
Samara has no ash but it's packed with flavor and sweeter then the 2 previously mentioned TA's. This I know they import from Bolgaria and produced from rustica tobacco leaves. It makes a great TA for pipe and sweeter type recipes. I've actually just ordered a 30ml bottle and find myself using this exclusively. When I need some ash I use samara along with DNB. Samara is a fragrance company and even though it's sold as a perfume additive it is excellent TA.
Virginia is the most tasteless or taste neutral but has a good ashy foundation. I think this is what you speak of as most of these Virginia's are cheaply mass produced by big tobacco and distributed to vendors. There good for that dry ashy mixture but does lack in that rich tobacco taste.
Mothers milk has that slight ashyness but packed with flavor and a slight sweetness. Mothers milk does produce this them self as well as all there NET's. This TA is produced from Dark fronto tobacco leaves. I find that it is a good all round TA that packs great tobacco flavor as well as a mild ash. I had the pleasure of reviewing this TA before it's initial offering on there site some months back. You can read my review on this on there selling page.
Samara has no ash but it's packed with flavor and sweeter then the 2 previously mentioned TA's. This I know they import from Bolgaria and produced from rustica tobacco leaves. It makes a great TA for pipe and sweeter type recipes. I've actually just ordered a 30ml bottle and find myself using this exclusively. When I need some ash I use samara along with DNB. Samara is a fragrance company and even though it's sold as a perfume additive it is excellent TA.
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The only reason I started using TA was because I thought it had a strong robust tobacco flavor. Unfortunately that has not been the case of the three samples I have tried. To be perfectly honest, I get stronger tobacco flavor from some of Hangsen or FA tobaccos. The only exception is Rustica - a non-traditional tobacco flavor. Even on that one, I have to go to 10% of the 10% solution for a robust taste. By way of comparison, I get a good strong tobacco flavor from HS Red USA at 5%, or FA Burley at 2% - way stronger than say TA from ECX for example. I have yet to try Mother's milk but I seriously doubt if it is that much stronger.
For an ashy texture, DNB does the job for me.
For an ashy texture, DNB does the job for me.
10% of the "black mix" (10% mix) of Rustica would remove my eyebrows and grow hair on my palms lol. You do like it "robust"! I went 1% and had to tone it down. It is a great tobacco flavor. Strangely, I'm the opposite with some HS tobacco flavors. Less than 15% of some (Cuba as an example that comes to mind) and it tastes weak to me.
I know this has been mentioned a hundred times but what is DNB again?
DNB : Dirty Natural Base - an Inawera flavor. It is classified as a tobacco flavor on the website but I don't think anyone uses it as a stand alone. It is used to give tobacco's an ashy taste - whatever that means. Some say it tastes like a dirty ash tray.
I actually go medium strength on my tobaccos except when it comes to Rustica and other TA's. It kind of puzzled why I have to go so high on them before I taste anything .... Hmmmm, am I making a mistake in my calculations preparing the 10% mix? Perhaps .... Back to the drawing board.
Oh boy, I see another BCV order in my near future. I remember the excessively ashy taste of a few pre-made liquids of days gone by, but I do like it if it's just enough (but not too much). Some of the sweeter tobaccos seem to need it.
Or maybe I made a mistake in mine?
I'll also need to check my notes. I already plan to double the dilution of my first 10 ml just to make it a little easier to measure the small quantities involved. It will likely last a very long time. At 0.5% I taste it fine. 1% is already darn close to too much. 2%, have not tried but I know it would blow my socks off lol.I've also thought about filtering it to remove the small particulates. Anyone try that? Good / bad idea?
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