Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)

DPLongo22

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Funny you should post this link...that's one of the ones I'm looking at. :evil: I think..:D

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

I LOVED that mod. Try as I might though, I just couldn't stick with it. Not cheap either (at the time). Now that I'm actually building coils, I COULD make it work.

Still not sure I WANT to, but I wouldn't mind admiring it again. So I build ONE to spec.... ;)

Did someone mention "Enablers" earlier? :lol:
 

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:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

I LOVED that mod. Try as I might though, I just couldn't stick with it. Not cheap either (at the time). Now that I'm actually building coils, I COULD make it work.

Still not sure I WANT to, but I wouldn't mind admiring it again. So I build ONE to spec.... ;)

Did someone mention "Enablers" earlier? :lol:
Only you sweetie.. :p
 

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So I've been thinking about getting a mech or two for the dark ages. Up till now I had read several posts about them and learned enough to know they require more thought and knowledge than I have before using them since they do not have built-in safety measures the way regulated mods do.

This morning I discovered @Baditude's beginner guide to mechs. The blog does not encourage or discourage the use of mechs. It states the facts in an excellent, well written, clearly explained, illustrated manner, and in my opinion, should be pinned in the new members forum. Thank you Bad.

@ChelsB I believe you expressed an interest in learning about mechs some day - you might want to read this. As for me, after reading it, I decided mechs are not for me.

(8) A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod | E-Cigarette Forum

I concur, Bea. They are not for me either. Thanks for the link!
 

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My concern is that I have family members who would press that button until the dayum things vented. Ohms Law, schlom's law... :facepalm:

Candidate for the Darwin awards? ;)

Heck, $10 is hardly enabling.....

(but the EHPro referenced does telescope, will take any 18xxx battery you want WITH a kick or a fuse... and, as mentioned, don't get carried away snugging it down!)
 

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Candidate for the Darwin awards? ;)

Heck, $10 is hardly enabling.....

(but the EHPro referenced does telescope, will take any 18xxx battery you want WITH a kick or a fuse... and, as mentioned, don't get carried away snugging it down!)

I hand them stuff. They push the buttons.

NO WAY they're EVER touching a mech. Not a chance (them).

I'm pretty sure I've taken care of that, with someone long & careful planning, and the help of one particularly wonderful friend (kough-kough!).

We're kovered.

Now, about ME... :banana:
 

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I know.

My concern is that I have family members who would press that button until the dayum things vented. Ohms Law, schlom's law... :facepalm:

I guess I could stash them for just me. I'd have to put notes on them in case anything ever happened to me.

(worthy of consideration, and much appreciated)

Mechs play a part in the stash. The last part. A lot of regulated have to fail first. I guess we will find out in 50 years
 

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While I respect that opinion, a mechanical mod is as safe as you choose to make it.
The only difference is that a regulated mod does for you what you are capable of doing for yourself.

With a mechanical you can use unsafe builds if you choose to be not safe, you can use faux hybrid top caps if you love living on the edge, you can exceed the CDR of your battery if you don't care about your face. You can even forget about locking the switch if you like having a hot pocket.
Common sense tells me that all of the above is pretty easy to avoid.

I agree with everything you've said, TJ, but my concerns are related to the mass-market impact of the devices. We all know people who do the bare minimum of research with everything they do*. As the size of the market increases, so does the likelihood that someone who shouldn't have something will indeed get their hands on it anyway.

The potential impact is to more than just said person too, and that cannot be discounted. As incidents increase, innocent bystander impact may too. As vapers, we should never lose sight of things like this.

Ultimately though, I do agree that mechs are perfectly safe in the correct hands.

* A few of these folks are in my family, and they vape. That's a reality that I cannot change. Regulated Only for them - no exceptions.
 

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While I respect that opinion, a mechanical mod is as safe as you choose to make it.
The only difference is that a regulated mod does for you what you are capable of doing for yourself.

With a mechanical you can use unsafe builds if you choose to be not safe, you can use faux hybrid top caps if you love living on the edge, you can exceed the CDR of your battery if you don't care about your face. You can even forget about locking the switch if you like having a hot pocket.
Common sense tells me that all of the above is pretty easy to avoid.

Yet, it appears there are also mechs in the hands of those who have not avoided all of the above. Is it understandable? Of course it is. When someone is sold a piece of equipment that carries with it the extraordinary potential for damage, with little to zero explanation and/or instructions, things can go boom. My concern is for those that hold that in their own faces, and my concern extends to the people who may be in the vicinity (as was evidenced at one of the big conventions not all that long ago).

I wish that written tests were required. I for one, would prolly not pass, EVEN with what I know.



USPS updated their publication 52 last fall, and there has apparently been some concern that it would impact mailing of high % nic. While that may be true for us as individuals, it also provides for mailing it as a consumer product under the ORM-D criteria, so I don't see it as having any impact on us getting it from our regular channels. THEY have to package/label it appropriately. Hard for me to do if I wanted to send you my out of this world mix ;)

And, as ChelsB pointed out, with her recent order of 100 mg nic, that seems to be the case.

Thanks, Veep.

Wait, what? Out of this world, eh? ;) ;)
 

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Egg zackly. And just why do lawn mowers have stickers on them to not pick them up while running?? IF common sense was, well, common, wouldn't everyone know that spinning steel blades are harmful to fingers??

(And not just the risk to innocent bystanders of a battery failure, but the bad press it gives the whole industry... Nope, doesn't matter that phones and laptops also go up in smoke, it's vaping batteries that are a problem... :facepalm: )
 

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    In retrospect we (the vaping community) were our own worse enemy with regards to mechanical mods. We always had to see how far we could stretch the envelope. See how low a resistance we could use, stack batteries to see how much voltage we could get, how little voltage loss could be attained, and on & on.
    This gave mechanical mods a bad reputation that can't be recovered from, and we can't blame anyone but ourselves for that. In fact the reputation is well deserved.

    It didn't have to be that way. A satisfying vape can be attained at very safe margins if a person chooses to do so with a mechanical mod.
    A simple suggestion that has been around for years is to never exceed 50% of a batteries CDR with a mechanical mod. I'm only vaping at 2 amps with my 20 amp batteries, and the vape is fantastic. Again, a mechanical mod is as safe as the user wants to make it. (or not)
     

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    I agree with everything you've said, TJ, but my concerns are related to the mass-market impact of the devices. We all know people who do the bare minimum of research with everything they do*. As the size of the market increases, so does the likelihood that someone who shouldn't have something will indeed get their hands on it anyway.

    The potential impact is to more than just said person too, and that cannot be discounted. As incidents increase, innocent bystander impact may too. As vapers, we should never lose sight of things like this.

    Ultimately though, I do agree that mechs are perfectly safe in the correct hands.

    * A few of these folks are in my family, and they vape. That's a reality that I cannot change. Regulated Only for them - no exceptions.

    For me, I worry enough about battery safety with my regulated devices I just figure I avoid extra worry staying away from mechs. [emoji4]
     

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    In retrospect we (the vaping community) were our own worse enemy with regards to mechanical mods. We always had to see how far we could stretch the envelope. See how low a resistance we could use, stack batteries to see how much voltage we could get, how little voltage loss could be attained, and on & on.
    This gave mechanical mods a bad reputation that can't be recovered from, and we can't blame anyone but ourselves for that. In fact the reputation is well deserved.

    It didn't have to be that way. A satisfying vape can be attained at very safe margins if a person chooses to do so with a mechanical mod.
    A simple suggestion that has been around for years is to never exceed 50% of a batteries CDR with a mechanical mod. I'm only vaping at 2 amps with my 20 amp batteries, and the vape is fantastic. Again, a mechanical mod is as safe as the user wants to make it. (or not)

    WELL stated, TJ. :thumb:
     

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    Polished stainless with brass accents!!
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