Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)

[DPLongo22]

(And not just the risk to innocent bystanders of a battery failure, but the bad press it gives the whole industry... Nope, doesn't matter that phones and laptops also go up in smoke, it's vaping batteries that are a problem... )

Unfortunately, this is the situation we're faced with, mainly because we were once smokers. I have every confidence that it will change in time, but I'm no idea if I'll still be around when the rubber hits the road.

In the meantime, we can only do our best...

Vapers, we are!

 

[Two_Bears]

So I've been thinking about getting a mech or two for the dark ages. Up till now I had read several posts about them and learned enough to know they require more thought and knowledge than I have before using them since they do not have built-in safety measures the way regulated mods do.

This morning I discovered @Baditude's beginner guide to mechs. The blog does not encourage or discourage the use of mechs. It states the facts in an excellent, well written, clearly explained, illustrated manner, and in my opinion, should be pinned in the new members forum. Thank you Bad.

@ChelsB I believe you expressed an interest in learning about mechs some day - you might want to read this. As for me, after reading it, I decided mechs are not for me.

(8) A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod | E-Cigarette Forum

I have a Kepler mech in mg vapocalpse stash but it is Absolutely tge last resort.

My next to last resort is a Provari with extension cap.

I HATE MECH'S WITH WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING!

 

[DavidOck]

Enabler U.

 

[tj99959]

Actually I like to relate to a mechanical mod the same way I relate to the atomizer I use.
The A7 produces the best flavor of any RDA out there, provided that it is set up properly. But, if a person doesn't bother to learn how to set it up properly it can produce about the worse vape that can be imagined.
Prolly' don't want to try an A7 at 100 watts

 

[DPLongo22]

Welp, yeppers. That'd be U!

 

[Two_Bears]

I don't know if this helps you, @Two_Bears , but I order 99% from Amazon and always receive it without incident. They charge $7 per pint (or $5 per if you buy four or more), which may be a lot. It gets here though, which is the important thing (for me).

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001B5JT8C/ref=od_aui_detailpages02?ie=UTF8&th=1

Ive got Amazon Prime, and often get three pints for $14.05. It is Swan 99% alcohol.

 

[Two_Bears]

This was the mech I really liked (but ended up selling because I like a regulated hit). At those prices though...

Me too. I hate the taste if burned cotton in the morning.

 

[Katdarling]

Egg zackly. And just why do lawn mowers have stickers on them to not pick them up while running?? IF common sense was, well, common, wouldn't everyone know that spinning steel blades are harmful to fingers??

(And not just the risk to innocent bystanders of a battery failure, but the bad press it gives the whole industry... Nope, doesn't matter that phones and laptops also go up in smoke, it's vaping batteries that are a problem... )

PREZACTLY.

In retrospect we (the vaping community) were our own worse enemy with regards to mechanical mods. We always had to see how far we could stretch the envelope. See how low a resistance we could use, stack batteries to see how much voltage we could get, how little voltage loss could be attained, and on & on.
This gave mechanical mods a bad reputation that can't be recovered from, and we can't blame anyone but ourselves for that. In fact the reputation is well deserved.

It didn't have to be that way. A satisfying vape can be attained at very safe margins if a person chooses to do so with a mechanical mod.
A simple suggestion that has been around for years is to never exceed 50% of a batteries CDR with a mechanical mod. I'm only vaping at 2 amps with my 20 amp batteries, and the vape is fantastic. Again, a mechanical mod is as safe as the user wants to make it. (or not)

I agree, tj. The mod itself is not to blame. It's harmless until put into human hands. We ARE to blame. Sadly...
And a shame (crime, uh uh, insert word of choice here) that some mech users don't have the tools (the understanding) when they make that choice to use one. That simple suggestion to never exceed 50% of a battery's CDR is a great one. You know it, I know it, prolly most here know it. But does everyone know that?

For me, I worry enough about battery safety with my regulated devices I just figure I avoid extra worry staying away from mechs. [emoji4]

I'm with you, girl.

This place is like college.

Enabler, U YOU.

FTFY, mon cher.

 

[DPLongo22]

I HATE MECH'S WITH WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING!

That's kinda extreme considering it's an inanimate object, no?

I'd hate to get on YOUR wrong side, being human and all.

Wait! Aren't you the guy with the needles (and the 99%)? Now I'd REALLY not want to get on your wrong side.

 

[DPLongo22]

FTFY, mon cher.

 

[Two_Bears]

I concur, Bea. They are not for me either. Thanks for the link!

Can i say me three?

 

[Katdarling]

But, if a person doesn't bother to learn how to set it up properly it can produce about the worse vape that can be imagined.

But if a person doesn't bother to TEACH...

As a newb, how would I know I have to bother to learn, when the gent behind the counter recommends and sells me a (mech) vaporizer?

Again, as you stated, we ARE to blame.

 

[DPLongo22]

Ive got Amazon Prime, and often get three pints for $14.05. It is Swan 99% alcohol.

That's it! Yes.

I saw 4 for 20, but missed the 3 for 15. Not bad (worth every penny)!

 

[Katdarling]

That's kinda extreme considering it's an inanimate object, no?

I'd hate to get on YOUR wrong side, being human and all.

Wait! Aren't you the guy with the needles (and the 99%)? Now I'd REALLY not want to get on your wrong side.

 

[tj99959]

But if a person doesn't bother to TEACH...

As a newb, how would I know I have to bother to learn, when the gent behind the counter recommends and sells me a (mech) vaporizer?

Again, as you stated, we ARE to blame.

But-but the law (FDA) says they can't.

add:
Let's face it, the laws are being written to specifically promote tamper proof pod systems.
Gotta protect us from ourselves and all that

 

[Two_Bears]

That's kinda extreme considering it's an inanimate object, no?

I'd hate to get on YOUR wrong side, being human and all.

Wait! Aren't you the guy with the needles (and the 99%)? Now I'd REALLY not want to get on your wrong side.

People really don't want to get on my wrong side. No one has done it for about 40 years.

I have
.380 semi automatic pistol

Full sized katana folded 12 times and Sharp enough to cut bamboo like nothing

Received the title Master in 8 Asian disciplines

Purple belts in Ate Waza, Aikido, and Jiu Jitsu.

Black belt in Tae Kwan Do.

I know how to kill a person in less than 1/2 a second, and ,50 ways to inflict so much pain you would wish you were dead.

Yes i have accupuncture needles and use about 60 accupuncture points on myself.

Tsang my Qigong master taught me taoist meditation, three forms of Qigong, and accupuncture.

 

[Two_Bears]

In retrospect we (the vaping community) were our own worse enemy with regards to mechanical mods. We always had to see how far we could stretch the envelope. See how low a resistance we could use, stack batteries to see how much voltage we could get, how little voltage loss could be attained, and on & on.
This gave mechanical mods a bad reputation that can't be recovered from, and we can't blame anyone but ourselves for that. In fact the reputation is well deserved.

It didn't have to be that way. A satisfying vape can be attained at very safe margins if a person chooses to do so with a mechanical mod.
A simple suggestion that has been around for years is to never exceed 50% of a batteries CDR with a mechanical mod. I'm only vaping at 2 amps with my 20 amp batteries, and the vape is fantastic. Again, a mechanical mod is as safe as the user wants to make it. (or not)

Exactly right. Building stupid low is an accident looking for a place to happen

 

[tj99959]

@Two_Bears Does that mean that you spend your mornings contemplating your navel??

 

[corn flakes]

I agree, tj. The mod itself is not to blame. It's harmless until put into human hands. We ARE to blame. Sadly...
And a shame (crime, uh uh, insert word of choice here) that some mech users don't have the tools (the understanding) when they make that choice to use one. That simple suggestion to never exceed 50% of a battery's CDR is a great one. You know it, I know it, prolly most here know it. But does everyone know that?

That great if you took the time to research it. So many fakes and rewraps out there. Over inflated numbers, no common standards for manufacturing.

I do follow Mooch but his great information is buried so far down in the forum you have to look to find it.

 

[Two_Bears]

But-but the law (FDA) says they can't.

add:
Let's face it, the laws are being written to specifically promote tamper proof pod systems.
Gotta protect us from ourselves and all that

Thats the problem they never did teach.

Joe Six Pack went in and said "I want a .1 ohm coil" and the ..... in the vape said "OK HERE YOU GO!"