Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)

Yiana

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I love madvapes :) I have been buying from MV since November 2013. I get all of my gear from them.

Awesome. I'm glad I found them. I don't usually order too much gear, but now with the fda I am trying to stock as much as possible. It is nice that there are so many things on sale or clearance. I don't need crazy high wattage mods. I was using a kbox mini. The highest wattage mod I've gotten has been that and the istick 50, but that broke. I really love the zmax! I had the v3. I want to get a few more of both the v3 & v5. I consider those the tootle puffer's dream. Or at least mine. :D
 

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Thank you, quiting hasn't ever been an issue, I just never really wanted to! I suffer severe depression and my mind goes a thousand miles an hour sober! I use alcohol to slow it down to function and be able to sleep at night without waking up all the time solving some stupid problem four days ago that my brain just figured out! It's hard to explain and hardly anyone gets it, they just see how much I drink so I have to be an alcoholic! I've just always used it as tool that's been much more effective than any of the pills I was ever prescribed! I rarely got drunk and didn't enjoy being drunk!

I completely understand. I've been in the same boat and did the same thing to cope with it.
 

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I completely understand. I've been in the same boat and did the same thing to cope with it.
It works for awhile till it starts to have a impact upon your health, well being and family. Then we do not see the damage it is doing till it is too late.

If I could only turn back time and make better decisions.
 

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Thank you, quiting hasn't ever been an issue, I just never really wanted to! I suffer severe depression and my mind goes a thousand miles an hour sober! I use alcohol to slow it down to function and be able to sleep at night without waking up all the time solving some stupid problem four days ago that my brain just figured out! It's hard to explain and hardly anyone gets it, they just see how much I drink so I have to be an alcoholic! I've just always used it as tool that's been much more effective than any of the pills I was ever prescribed! I rarely got drunk and didn't enjoy being drunk!

Try some Melatonin that contains L-theanine. It's available over the counter and the L-theanine will relax your thought processes so that your mind isn't going 90 miles an hour while you are trying to go to sleep. You'll be surprised how effective it is. $6.99 at Amazon.

Amazon.com: Nature Made Melatonin + with 200 Mg L-theanine, 60 Count (Packaging may vary): Health & Personal Care
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Oh boy..........speaking from experience with alcohol and the reason I do not drink anymore which would be alcoholism maybe I could help you find some help in your area. I normally would not talk about this but I think this is important enough to bring it out in the open.

Yep... I had to stop the alcohol before it took me over.Haven't drank on a steady basis for a few years now....I like it better this way.I still have the odd beer here and there but not nothing at all like before.
 

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I'm a huge believer in natural remedies. I suffer from mild anxiety, scattered thoughts, and occasional trouble falling asleep.

The anxiety and racing thoughts stem from having 4 kids + a complicated job that stresses me out. It's not debilitating or anything. It just affects my baseline in a negative way from time to time. I'm quite aware of it so that is good.

I'm not a doctor of course and am not recommending anything. Just sharing what has worked small miracles for me.

L-Theanine + morning coffee is probably the most enjoyable start of the day combination I've ever had. Theanine and caffeine are synergistic. Plenty of science on it and I love it. The theanine offsets the nervous side of caffeine. Hard to describe but my brain feels "well oiled and clear" 30 minutes after and lasts over half of the day. L Theanine is one of the active ingredients in green tea and is why green tea has relaxing properties even though there is caffeine (much less than a cup of coffee of course).

Ashwaghanda root is another sup I take on an as needed basis. Excellent stress and anxiety reducer but only for mild symptoms. It won't cure serious or chronic. For me it helps during stressful days or weeks. It seems to help my decision making and ability to deal with stress/pressure more effectively.

My wife loves Rhodiola. It's similar to ashwaghanda but it more stimulating. She works outside sales with big businesses and needs to be on top of her game. Rhodiola helps her think and speak clearly during presentations. I personally find it a bit too stimulating but each person is as unique as a fingerprint.

Valerian extract is pretty amazing. I can't take the ground root pills. They don't agree with me but the non-alcohol liquid extract is a pretty powerful relaxant for a natural root. Only makes me sleepy at night but I can take it during the day no problem. I've been prescribed a light dose of valium before. I can see why people abuse that stuff but I found it make me stupid. Didn't like that. Valerian root is great for restful sleep or when flying or whenever you need the edge off. It seems to have the same relaxing properties as valium but without the dumbing effect. Plus you wake up clear and ready to go. Valium gave me a fog. I did like valium at first but ended up hating it for the side effects.

None of these sups are habit forming or anything like that. You can take them or leave them whenever. There is no "withdrawal" or "tolerance" associated with them unlike all the powerful prescription meds.

This post is TL;DR but it's important to me to share that natural remedies can be quite effective. I hate pharma stuff. The things I've listed have been effectively used for thousands of years. My doctor knows I'm taking these supplements when I feel the need and she is all for it. I actually taught her quite a bit about them (shocking that docs only know pills. lol). I didn't jump into this stuff on a whim. I did a ton of research just like I did when I decided to vape. I'm kind of obsessive with gaining knowledge about what I put in my body. I suggest anyone interested in trying the benefits of herbal supplements to do their research. There's a ton of science based reports and articles that are easy to find. Examine.com is probably the most concise for just about anything.
 

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Excellent!
All the reviews I glanced through had people disliking the charger.
Yah its kinda cool they had a balance charger even if it was cheap I think it was because they had planned on selling extra batteries you could buy. It took them forever to have the spare cells available so I think it never took off. It is a super deal for a DNA200 IMO.
 

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Awesome. I'm glad I found them. I don't usually order too much gear, but now with the fda I am trying to stock as much as possible. It is nice that there are so many things on sale or clearance. I don't need crazy high wattage mods. I was using a kbox mini. The highest wattage mod I've gotten has been that and the istick 50, but that broke. I really love the zmax! I had the v3. I want to get a few more of both the v3 & v5. I consider those the tootle puffer's dream. Or at least mine. :D

I dont buy gear much anymore either. Almost all of the gear I have came from MV. The only ones that didnt are the ones I have won and ones that were given to me :) I have not shopped for new gear in I dont even know how long. lol I havent even stocked up gear for the fda yet....I do need to get an extra sub tank mini, because I absolutely love the one I have. I figure that I will vape until I cannot vape anymore :) I will never smoke again!
I love my kbox mini, Reliant, and cloupor mini! I have never used the cloupor past 12w, the reliant past 16w or the kbox mini past 15w. Lol I love those mods. Now the other day I finally went to 20 some watts on my luggy mod....lol
 
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I have been on klonopin for years because of my anxiety. I've also been on xanax and ativan. My new doctor is anti benzo because some people abuse them. I've never been addicted to them or have gone through withdrawal. It is the only thing that actually helps my anxiety.
Any Dr that denies a potentially addictive medication that has been a effective for a patient, without ascertaining if the patient is abusing that medicationn should not be in practice.
My Dr does bloodwork everytime I see him every 3 months. Not only monitor the effect of the RA on my organs, but the levels of meds in my system, & watch for the effect meds might be having on organs also. They also monitor for illegal substances & unprescribed drugs. They do this with every patient. I don't understand why the DEA took the step of making it so obnoxiously difficult to prescribe hydrocodone instead of investigating over prescribing. I can pay for the triplicate paperwork required for it every three months, or settle for something that doesn't work as well & have to take more often. I settle & live with the additional pain. No one with actual, chronic, intense pain should go through this.
 
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Another person with anxiety who uses Valerian root. It really works. I don't have to take any Rx meds anymore. If things are going really badly, I add some Hops (capsules, not beer ;)). No brain fog in the morning, and I can take it during the day and be fine, too. I highly recommend it for panic attacks/anxiety/insomnia. Only wish I had tried it sooner!
 

Yiana

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Try some Melatonin that contains L-theanine. It's available over the counter and the L-theanine will relax your thought processes so that your mind isn't going 90 miles an hour while you are trying to go to sleep. You'll be surprised how effective it is. $6.99 at Amazon.

Amazon.com: Nature Made Melatonin + with 200 Mg L-theanine, 60 Count (Packaging may vary): Health & Personal Care
81PPZFzdiKL._SY679_.jpg

I've taken those before. Unfortunately, they don't really work that well for me. But they work great for my husband. I got a couple disorders, so that is probably why.
 

Yiana

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I'm a huge believer in natural remedies. I suffer from mild anxiety, scattered thoughts, and occasional trouble falling asleep.

The anxiety and racing thoughts stem from having 4 kids + a complicated job that stresses me out. It's not debilitating or anything. It just affects my baseline in a negative way from time to time. I'm quite aware of it so that is good.

I'm not a doctor of course and am not recommending anything. Just sharing what has worked small miracles for me.

L-Theanine + morning coffee is probably the most enjoyable start of the day combination I've ever had. Theanine and caffeine are synergistic. Plenty of science on it and I love it. The theanine offsets the nervous side of caffeine. Hard to describe but my brain feels "well oiled and clear" 30 minutes after and lasts over half of the day. L Theanine is one of the active ingredients in green tea and is why green tea has relaxing properties even though there is caffeine (much less than a cup of coffee of course).

Ashwaghanda root is another sup I take on an as needed basis. Excellent stress and anxiety reducer but only for mild symptoms. It won't cure serious or chronic. For me it helps during stressful days or weeks. It seems to help my decision making and ability to deal with stress/pressure more effectively.

My wife loves Rhodiola. It's similar to ashwaghanda but it more stimulating. She works outside sales with big businesses and needs to be on top of her game. Rhodiola helps her think and speak clearly during presentations. I personally find it a bit too stimulating but each person is as unique as a fingerprint.

Valerian extract is pretty amazing. I can't take the ground root pills. They don't agree with me but the non-alcohol liquid extract is a pretty powerful relaxant for a natural root. Only makes me sleepy at night but I can take it during the day no problem. I've been prescribed a light dose of valium before. I can see why people abuse that stuff but I found it make me stupid. Didn't like that. Valerian root is great for restful sleep or when flying or whenever you need the edge off. It seems to have the same relaxing properties as valium but without the dumbing effect. Plus you wake up clear and ready to go. Valium gave me a fog. I did like valium at first but ended up hating it for the side effects.

None of these sups are habit forming or anything like that. You can take them or leave them whenever. There is no "withdrawal" or "tolerance" associated with them unlike all the powerful prescription meds.

This post is TL;DR but it's important to me to share that natural remedies can be quite effective. I hate pharma stuff. The things I've listed have been effectively used for thousands of years. My doctor knows I'm taking these supplements when I feel the need and she is all for it. I actually taught her quite a bit about them (shocking that docs only know pills. lol). I didn't jump into this stuff on a whim. I did a ton of research just like I did when I decided to vape. I'm kind of obsessive with gaining knowledge about what I put in my body. I suggest anyone interested in trying the benefits of herbal supplements to do their research. There's a ton of science based reports and articles that are easy to find. Examine.com is probably the most concise for just about anything.

Passionflower and also Valerian like you mention do help with taking the edge off of anxiety.
 

Yiana

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Any Dr that denies a potentially addictive medication that has been a effective for a patient, without ascertaining if the patient is abusing that medicationn should not be in practice.
My Dr does bloodwork everytime I see him every 3 months. Not only monitor the effect of the RA on my organs, but the levels of meds in my system, & watch for the effect meds might be having on organs also. They also monitor for illegal substances & unprescribed drugs. They do this with every patient. I don't understand why the DEA took the step of making it so obnoxiously difficult to prescribe hydrocodone instead of investigating over prescribing. I can pay for the triplicate paperwork required for it every three months, or settle for something that doesn't work as well & have to take more often. I settle & live with the additional pain. No one with actual, chronic, intense pain should go yhrough this.

It makes so angry! No one should have to live with chronic pain. It really affects the quality of life. My doctor I had before I moved had no problem with klonopin. He knew that I had such bad anxiety, that there are alot of times I couldn't even leave the house. I moved to a new state lasy year and they are extremely obnoxious about it.
 

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