Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)

[Frenchfry1942]

The KFs were the start of mass produced RTAs. Air was tighter. Most mods were easily below 20w. As the version moved along...well, air tried to. The KFL+V2 finally had 2 air holes. That made for something of a normal draw. Previously, it was like suckie through a stir straw. But, like the other KFs, never a leak.

I have some and good flavor.

 

[DaveP]

I said I would do a quick review of the Wismec reuleaux RX200S TC that I won in the Heaven Gifts giveaway http://www.heavengifts.com/WISMEC-Reuleaux-RX200S-TC-Express-Kit.html

Firstly thank you to heavens gifts for the comp/giveaway. They were one of the first vendors I dealt with and still a firm favourite on my list of vendors.

Ok. Even though I knew I did not need to marry the set of batteries I waited until I got new batteries before giving it a true test. It is a really attractive mod with lovely lines, a bright/clear easy to see screen and lovely tactile buttons. The device came with a really in depth manual which of course stays in the box until after I have a play. New covers are available to mix/match and change the look making it a versatile mod.

The menu is easy to work through, clear and bright (might be a bit bright for some). I have not tried the TC but by all accounts Wismec have got this right.

As a tootle puffer one of the biggest issues is whether such a powerful device can give you a smooth vape at lower watts and I am happy to say it fires perfectly between 8-10W, no chattering or weird pulsing.

The Reuleaux is quite a beast and with the three batteries loaded, weighs in at a whopping 316g. Even though it is really heavy it is strangely ergonomic and balanced in the hand and the buttons are easy to find and fire.

I know the perfect person for this device and it is much appreciated.

I've been looking at the sales on the Relleaux SX200S and have almost decided to jump. I was on the fence about whether the triple 18650 configuration would give me the long vape time that I'd expect from three batteries. Some of the multi-battery mods seem to suffer from the electronics sucking more wattage than you'd expect.

I get about 12-16 hours from my Smok Koopor Plus 200W on two Sony VCT4's. That's about double what I get from single battery mods like the Provari. I'd hope to be able to vape at least two days on a triple 18650 mod with good batts.

I like the SX200S for the large OLED display over the smaller display on the SX200. Are there any gotchas with the SX200S over the SX200? They seem pretty similar in features.

 

[DaveP]

Yeah, the stock KFL+V2 was just a bit air starved for my tastes. Not by a lot, but enough that I wanted a little more air. Even with the air screws removed, it was still too tight. I drilled the air tube out to 5/64 and it's perfect for me. Now the air screws can be adjusted to dial it in, just right. It made a world of difference, for me.

I agree that the Kayfuns can use a little more breathability. I've found that I get a little more air draw if I swap the small hole drip tip for a K4 style tip with a larger hole. You still are drawing through the small air hole in the coil deck base, though. I'm a MTL vaper, so it's close to what I got years ago from filter tip cigs and that's fine.

I have a Lemo Drop and an Orchid. Those are adjustable, but not quite the same as a good old Kayfun. Some other wise great RTA's are just noisy when you close down the air flow.

 

[Krisma]

I've been looking at the sales on the Relleaux SX200S and have almost decided to jump. I was on the fence about whether the triple 18650 configuration would give me the long vape time that I'd expect from three batteries. Some of the multi-battery mods seem to suffer from the electronics sucking more wattage than you'd expect.

I get about 12-16 hours from my Smok Koopor Plus 200W on two Sony VCT4's. That's about double what I get from single battery mods like the Provari. I'd hope to be able to vape at least two days on a triple 18650 mod with good batts.

I like the SX200S for the large OLED display over the smaller display on the SX200. Are there any gotchas with the SX200S over the SX200? They seem pretty similar in features.

I can't help with the comparisons as the SX200S was my first try of them

 

[TraderX]

I'm ordered more of my regular Hangsen juice from Madvapes. While I was there I looked at rebuildables on their site I saw an EHPro Squape in sale for $9.95 and ordered it. There was also the EHPro Squape Reloaded for $39.95. I thought I'd wait to see how the original Squape worked out before jumping in on the more expensive model.

I searched and read multiple reviews on the Squape, Squape (R), and the Squape Reloaded. I couldn't see much difference in the three. So, would someone who's tried them all please explain the differences to me?

Dave,

The original Squape is ridiculously large and does not have adjustable airflow. Just return it, it is a waste of money and no better than a Kayfun Lite V1. The Squape Reloaded comes with adjustable airflow, and is far superior tank, no comparison really.

However, the Squape you truly want is this one below, the Squape Rs made by SXK, who does some of the finest clone work in the world. I was a harcore Kayfun Lite V2 junky and had accumulated eight authentics from VapeRev. They were and are great tanks, but all of mine went to ebay quickly when I found this.

SXK SQRS Reloaded Squape RS RTA Atomizer

A blind chimpanzee could build one of these, and they render the Kayfuns obsolete for the most part. Try one, and then decide whether to sell or give away your Kayfuns.

 

[Krisma]

@gt_1955

I will put this here as well. For all the TP that use devices with the cubis type coils. I use the regular cubis tanks and GT uses the new Egrip. We both like horizontal coils with rayon wicking but the RBA head for these coils is almost designed for vertical coils only. There are eliquid intake holes at the base of the coils head that are an annoyance to folks that want a simple horizontal coil. We have tried a couple of methods of blocking them from just jamming them with wick to silica donuts but GT has come up with a neat little adapter that plugs the holes and allows a normal horizontal coil build. This means you can build a micro coil (build like a protank and ignore the minute screws) wick out through the channels. Your wicking material will determine how you set the wick up.

You can see the black delrin ring effectively blocking the holes in the base.

Build pics

I have been running this coil for 2.5 tanks now and I have to say allowing the airflow room around the coil (sides and bottom) improves the flavour no end. There is no collection of eliquid in the cavity beneath the coil and it's a great full vape.

Gt mentioned if you are using rayon to place a few long wispy tails of your wick into the bottom of the tank. This allows you to vape the tank almost dry.

 

[rhelton]

Rose V2 come to mind?

Flavor Flav for sure, Yeah Boyee!

Lmao

 

[Krisma]

Not that I need any more gear but this is definitely my look

 

[DaveP]

Dave,

The original Squape is ridiculously large and does not have adjustable airflow. Just return it, it is a waste of money and no better than a Kayfun Lite V1. The Squape Reloaded comes with adjustable airflow, and is far superior tank, no comparison really.

However, the Squape you truly want is this one below, the Squape Rs made by SXK, who does some of the finest clone work in the world. I was a harcore Kayfun Lite V2 junky and had accumulated eight authentics from VapeRev. They were and are great tanks, but all of mine went to ebay quickly when I found this.

SXK SQRS Reloaded Squape RS RTA Atomizer

A blind chimpanzee could build one of these, and they render the Kayfuns obsolete for the most part. Try one, and then decide whether to sell or give away your Kayfuns.

I bought the EHPro Squape for $9.95 as a cheap trial and the build was easy. I had to go back in and work the wick down in the juice channels and over into the vertical channels about half way to stop gurgle and slight leakage. Once I did that it vaped well and sat overnight with no leakage. Flavor isn't quite up to my Kayfun, though. I like some back pressure on the draw that resembles a filter cig. I'm not a direct lung vaper, anyway.

I'll try the reloaded version when it's on sale somewhere.

 

[gerrymi]

SXK SQRS Reloaded Squape RS RTA Atomizer

A blind chimpanzee could build one of these, and they render the Kayfuns obsolete for the most part. Try one, and then decide whether to sell or give away your Kayfuns.

Trade...The Squape RS does look interesting (especially the "blind chimpanzee could build one" aspect)...

The link is not clear...is it Top-Filling???

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[gerrymi]

You can see the black delrin ring effectively blocking the holes in the base.

Build pics

I have been running this coil for 2.5 tanks now and I have to say allowing the airflow room around the coil (sides and bottom) improves the flavour no end. There is no collection of eliquid in the cavity beneath the coil and it's a great full vape.

Krisma...I LOVE my eGo AIO's and Cubis's...and was thinkin' of trying a BF RBA Head.

What "size" delrin ring did you use???

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[Krisma]

Krisma...I LOVE my eGo AIO's and Cubis's...and was thinkin' of trying a BF RBA Head.

What "size" delrin ring did you use???

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@gt_1955 made it for us. I think he is out most of the day but he can explain. He turns them from a delrin rod ? I thought if you don't have a lathe you could do something similar with a slice of delrin driptip (small bore) and sandpaper. Sand to size and then slice and clean up. That is just off the top of my head and he is better for giving the exact dimensions.

It's brilliant. I am on my third tank and the flavour is excellent. I tried a larger coil but the airflow wasn't as good around the coil so I reverted back to the micro coil. I use a 14 gauge needle.

Just a note, I can't deal with the tiny screw so I just fed the legs either side of the insulator. As long as you stay within TP ranges you won't melt the insulator.

 

[Detroit Doug]

@gt_1955 made it for us. I think he is out most of the day but he can explain. He turns them from a delrin rod ? I thought if you don't have a lathe you could do something similar with a slice of delrin driptip (small bore) and sandpaper. Sand to size and then slice and clean up. That is just off the top of my head and he is better for giving the exact dimensions.

It's brilliant. I am on my third tank and the flavour is excellent. I tried a larger coil but the airflow wasn't as good around the coil so I reverted back to the micro coil. I use a 14 gauge needle.

Just a note, I can't deal with the tiny screw so I just fed the legs either side of the insulator. As long as you stay within TP ranges you won't melt the insulator.

Very interested in more details. I picked up a Cubis & RBA shortly after it came out, but found the RBA a pain to deal with, so I just stuck it on the back shelf, thinking some day I'd get back to it. I recently thought about trading it off, but with this info, I might reconsider. I'd love to get the Cubis up to speed and working.

Is there a reason for Delrin? (Doesn't absorb tastes, etc) It sounds like the trick is to block off the bottom juice holes, and build it like any other grommet & pin, horizontal coil rebuild. I use the CLR coils daily. Sounds like the modification turns the Cubis RBA into a jumbo CLR.

I like it!

 

[gt_1955]

The little delrin blanks are designed to block the bottom, fluid entry holes when using the RBA with a horizontal coil as the RBA sucks juice through them ... fantastic when using a vertical coil wrapped in your favourite wicking material, but not a good thing for a horizontal coil where you only require juice wicking through your ... wicks

. We had tried various methods to blank those holes, this one just proves to be the simplest (for me) and best.

They are 9.50 OD (3/8"), with a 5.5 ID (7/32") hole, and are 2mm thick. Now 9.50 OD is a sliding fit in the RBA which is not desirable, however, when parting them off the parting tool produces a small burr if not sharpened perfectly. I used this to my advantage though, as it then becomes an interference fit inside the RBA (which means it doesn't move).

Because the wicks are now around 7mm from the bottom of the tank, I'd trim the rayon (you are using rayon, aren't you) so that 3 or 4 strands on both sides were left that much longer, ensuring that the tank could be drained before you got a dry hit. Having said that, I haven't had a problem with wicking in my eGrip II using the modified RBA. A side note: in the eGip II, I also build an air pipe extender which resolves the air flow problem when using horizontal coils in the RBA.

Why delrin? It is relatively heat resistant for a plastic, is easily machined, does not add any strange taste to the vape (so inert might be a better word), it's cheap, and I have it on hand in various sizes

 

[Krisma]

Just while we are talking these coils. I was a bit concerned that with the top airflow and my fairy vapes I would get a bit of condensation pooling in the base of the RBA but there hasn't been any yet so I am very happy with that.

 

[gt_1955]

Adding the delrin washer does require you connect the coil leads the same as you would for a kanger protank/JoyeTech CLR coil head, so in effect the RBA does become a larger CLR

 

[Detroit Doug]

Thanks @gt_1955 & Krisma. Great info. The 'get back to it' time for the Cubis has been moved up, considerably! I'll be going on a scavenger hunt for some Delrin stock, to do a little fabricating. Maybe some Delrin washers that can be trimmed / sanded, to fit.

Many thanks

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Not for me... I think the Cubis and the AIO, and the Goodger, and all other "cup" tanks are getting packed away for doomsday. Never did get a satisfactory vape... Did get a lot of spitback, though...

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[Krisma]

Not for me... I think the Cubis and the AIO, and the Goodger, and all other "cup" tanks are getting packed away for doomsday. Never did get a satisfactory vape... Did get a lot of spitback, though...

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I hear that often. I loathed the Clapton coils (gurgled, flooded, spit etc) but had a lot of success with the 1ohm. Now with the RBA it's exactly what I need. The rayon wicks help standardise the eliquid flow and I don't even get popping with it.

 

[Detroit Doug]

I wasn't happy with it either, initially, but I'll give it a chance to redeem itself. It's the 'jumbo CLR' concept that gives me hope. My main tank is the Tron-S, another one that doesn't get much love, in the reviews. I build the CLR's at 1.6 ohms and wick with Rayon, and they work great. It's one of the tank & rba combos I decided to stock up on (along with the Kayfuns & STMs). I've been rebuilding the same CLR coil for over 5 months (a couple times a week), and it's still rockin'. I have nine 5 packs, so they should last a while.

Hopefully tweaking the Cubis RBA will bring that tank back from the dead pile for me. I appreciate the info given, that might make it possible. I'll give it a whirl.