TPA molecules?

[Bahnzo]

It looks to me that PA chose to call them "molecules" to distinguish them from (the more complex) "flavors." Simple marketing to ensure a distinction between a flavor component ("molecule") and a developed, mixed flavor.

Right, I don't think it's meant to be misleading or anything. If you google "Acetyl Pyrazine" for instance, you'll find a lot of info on it's molecular structure and whatnot. I found one place that refers to these as "flavor agents" so maybe that will sit better with anyone upset with them being called molecules......

 

[DaDuke]

I agree. Seems like a straightforward way to distinguish the nature of these flavorings. If you read up on how they are created you'll see that they are indeed the molecules that when combined with other molecules create a distinct flavor like peanut for example. These are individual components of a flavor and not a distinct recognizable flavor in and of themselves. I guess they could've called them flavor essences or something but i think the name is perfect and aptly descriptive.

I just discovered these today and am reading up on it like a fiend. I think this may be the answer to my thread about http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/124056-tones-jc-juice.html#post1923915 which nobody replied to btw

 

[GoodDog]

I agree. Seems like a straightforward way to distinguish the nature of these flavorings. If you read up on how they are created you'll see that they are indeed the molecules that when combined with other molecules create a distinct flavor like peanut for example. These are individual components of a flavor and not a distinct recognizable flavor in and of themselves. I guess they could've called them flavor essences or something but i think the name is perfect and aptly descriptive.

I just discovered these today and am reading up on it like a fiend. I think this may be the answer to my thread about http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/124056-tones-jc-juice.html#post1923915 which nobody replied to btw

Let us know what you discover. We've talked about the flavor molecules here a few times (don't have the threads handy) but not too much info.

 

[Bahnzo]

These can be intimidating to work with. Since ordering mine, they are something that takes some work. It's not like flavors where you can mix 20% and adjust. In a lot of cases, 1 drop of something in 10ml of juice is all it takes to either add flavor or screw it up. They are very potent.

 

[DaDuke]

Let us know what you discover. We've talked about the flavor molecules here a few times (don't have the threads handy) but not too much info.

Yeah, i searched and only found 3-4 threads and not a lot of info. I'll be googling the net next.

I did drop an email to PA asking about the concentration level of the molecules. Linda called within 5 minutes... holy crap. Now THAT'S whatcha call good customer service. Anyway, she said they are fairly diluted and can be treated like most flavorings.

I still have about 40ish flavors to experiment with but when i get around to the PA flavors and molecules (not included in the 40 i'm testing now) i'm just going to take a 40 rack of test tubes, each containg a sample of the same recipe. Then i'll add 1% of the different molecules to individual samples and see how each molecule affects that particular recipe. Once i have some winners i'll repeat this process with the new recipe seeing which combo of molecules gives the best results for each of my recipes. Hopefully this will yeid some unique and complex recipes. It's just going to take some serious time. Got another order of lab gear on the way so soon i'll be able to work on around 120 samples at a time.

OT: btw, just got my faeries finest in and the tangerine smells and tastes like fresh fruit ripped apart under you nose. The strawberry smells orgasmic although i havent sampled it yet.

These can be intimidating to work with. Since ordering mine, they are something that takes some work. It's not like flavors where you can mix 20% and adjust. In a lot of cases, 1 drop of something in 10ml of juice is all it takes to either add flavor or screw it up. They are very potent.

Thanks for that tip. I'll definitely keep that in mind and start very small, maybe 0.1%. This is where my new pipettes metered down to 1/100th ml will shine. Heh, i'm having too much fun with this stuff.

 

[Katatawnic]

Thanks for that tip. I'll definitely keep that in mind and start very small, maybe 0.1%. This is where my new pipettes metered down to 1/100th ml will shine. Heh, i'm having too much fun with this stuff.

Where can I find these pipettes? Or I guess I should ask, how would they be labeled so that I know which ones they are?

 

[Jimi D.]

Yeah, i searched and only found 3-4 threads and not a lot of info. I'll be googling the net next.

I did drop an email to PA asking about the concentration level of the molecules. Linda called within 5 minutes... holy crap. Now THAT'S whatcha call good customer service. Anyway, she said they are fairly diluted and can be treated like most flavorings.

I still have about 40ish flavors to experiment with but when i get around to the PA flavors and molecules (not included in the 40 i'm testing now) i'm just going to take a 40 rack of test tubes, each containg a sample of the same recipe. Then i'll add 1% of the different molecules to individual samples and see how each molecule affects that particular recipe. Once i have some winners i'll repeat this process with the new recipe seeing which combo of molecules gives the best results for each of my recipes. Hopefully this will yeid some unique and complex recipes. It's just going to take some serious time. Got another order of lab gear on the way so soon i'll be able to work on around 120 samples at a time.

OT: btw, just got my faeries finest in and the tangerine smells and tastes like fresh fruit ripped apart under you nose. The strawberry smells orgasmic although i havent sampled it yet.

Thanks for that tip. I'll definitely keep that in mind and start very small, maybe 0.1%. This is where my new pipettes metered down to 1/100th ml will shine. Heh, i'm having too much fun with this stuff.

Ok..I can never find a good citrus..What is faeries finest?