Typical... SNAFU Petition to President Kicked To The Curb....

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DragonflyVaper

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Just got this and I'm so very disappointed after all the hard work everyone did to get the 5k signatures on our petition. FOR WHAT? Reading this response is sooooo canned, it's obvious the President did not get to see our petition. I read somewhere on the net that Obama was seen with an ecig when he was trying to quit smoking? He didn't see our petition at all... What a shame because the response is from "The Obama Administration" A canned response funded by the FDA and Big Pharma. We tried.....



Protecting Public Health Through Safe and Effective
Treatments

By Dr. Lawrence R. Deyton, M.S.P.H, M.D., Director of the Center for
tobacco Products at the FDA.


Thank you for signing the petition "Recognize electronic cigarettes as an effective
alternative to smoking and support job creation in this new industry
."

E-cigarettes may contain ingredients that are known to be toxic to humans or
otherwise harm public health -- for example, if they are attractive to young
people and lead kids to try other tobacco products, including conventional
cigarettes, which are known to cause disease and lead to premature death.
Because clinical studies of these products have not been submitted to the Food
and Drug Administration (FDA), consumers currently have no way of knowing what
types or concentrations of potentially harmful chemicals are found in these
products, or how much nicotine people inhale when they use these products.

FDA is taking steps, as authorized by the Family Smoking Prevention and
Tobacco Control Act, to include electronic cigarettes under the agency's
regulatory authority.

However, in light of the lack of validated scientific data, including a lack
of reliable indicators of nicotine and harmful chemical content, FDA cannot at
this time conclude that electronic cigarettes are an effective alternative to
smoking.

Make no mistake, the Obama Administration shares your concern about the
public health risks associated with cigarette smoking and is committed to
helping Americans quit. Cigarette smoking poses a serious public health risk to
our Nation, accounting for about one-third of all cancers, including 90 percent of lung cancer cases. On
average, adults who smoke die 14 years earlier than
nonsmokers
. Nonsmokers exposed to secondhand smoke at home or work increase
their risk of developing heart disease by 25 to 30 percent and
lung cancer by 20 to 30 percent. A 35-year-old
man who quits smoking will, on average, increase his life expectancy by 5 years.

As someone who is clearly engaged on this issue, we also want to make sure
you know about the Great American Smokeout, the American Cancer Society's
nationwide campaign to encourage smokers to make a plan to quit. Watch a special video from President Obama and learn
more

 

DragonflyVaper

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To be perfectly paranoid about it, I wouldn't be surprised if the White House handed over all our email addresses to the DEA for enforcement of whatever regulations the FDA eventually comes up with.

You're not paranoid at all and I agree with your post. If you're not paranoid in today's climate that is rapidly eating away at our so-called "Freedom", then you are living under a rock along with your head in the sand. They had the nerve to direct us to the National Smoke Out Day video !! Grrrrr! What idiots ! We should organize a National Smoke / Vape IN Day
 

MrsCasey

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What nerve quoting cancer, death and heart disease statistics to us. Don't we already know that? Isn't that a big reason we quit and a big reason we signed this petition?

Would it be in our interest to continue to write new petitions and sign? Flood them with petitions to accept e-cigs? Maybe CASAA can give us some guidance on how we should proceed.
 

Placebo Effect

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What nerve quoting cancer, death and heart disease statistics to us. Don't we already know that? Isn't that a big reason we quit and a big reason we signed this petition?

Would it be in our interest to continue to write new petitions and sign? Flood them with petitions to accept e-cigs? Maybe CASAA can give us some guidance on how we should proceed.

CASAA will be putting out a national Call to Action in the next week or two.

You could also consider writing a letter to the editor of your local newspaper about your disappointment in the Obama administration for their reckless stance on e-cigarettes. It's especially good if they publish the letters online.

In the meantime, considering donating to CASAA.
 

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If I ever hear the words if I can quit any one can coming from Obama , I will go to DC kick in the door and put that kid over my knee and tan his back side. :evil:

Throe I am not to surprised at the response we got. But we had to try and we need to keep trying.

(Keep tilting a wind mill far enough it will fall over.) Don Vapape
 
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Dougiestyle

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Anyone have this ......'s direct email addy? I say we email blitz him with our stories, links to ECF and any other shenanigans anyone wants to include. This has happened via another forum I frequent on different terms. What say ye?

Going to find this guy's email addy...

I've had a couple drinks, so if I'm out of line, mods, please delete or whatever. I'm kinda riled-up right now tho.
 

DragonflyVaper

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If I ever hear the words if I can quit any one can coming from Obama , I will go to DC kick in the door and put that kid over my knee and tan his back side. :evil:

Throe I am not to surprised at the response we got. But we had to try and we need to keep trying.

(Keep tilting a wind mill far enough it will fall over.) Don Vapape

LOL.... be very very careful about what you post about what you'll do to our President..... you may have your home invaded with SWAT thanks to the Patriot Act...... Land Of The Free
 

MrsCasey

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CASAA will be putting out a national Call to Action in the next week or two.

You could also consider writing a letter to the editor of your local newspaper about your disappointment in the Obama administration for their reckless stance on e-cigarettes. It's especially good if they publish the letters online.
In the meantime, considering donating to CASAA.

Absolutely, I feel there is some letter writing in my future. My husband and I have already talked about donating to CASAA and he is trying to find out if he can set it up pre-tax through
his employer, that way we can donate more.
 
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matthewbishop

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Anyone have this ......'s direct email addy? I say we email blitz him with our stories, links to ECF and any other shenanigans anyone wants to include. This has happened via another forum I frequent on different terms. What say ye?

Going to find this guy's email addy...

I've had a couple drinks, so if I'm out of line, mods, please delete or whatever. I'm kinda riled-up right now tho.

LAWRENCE R. DEYTON, MD, MSPH
Director Center for Tobacco Products
U.S. Food and Drug Administration
9200 Corporate Boulevard
Rockville, MD 20850
Phone: 877/287-1373
E-mail: askctp@fda.hhs.gov

May not be direct, but it is his departments main address...
 

Debbie Lee

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Just got this and I'm so very disappointed after all the hard work everyone did to get the 5k signatures on our petition. FOR WHAT? Reading this response is sooooo canned, it's obvious the President did not get to see our petition. I read somewhere on the net that Obama was seen with an ecig when he was trying to quit smoking? He didn't see our petition at all... What a shame because the response is from "The Obama Administration" A canned response funded by the FDA and Big Pharma. We tried.....



Protecting Public Health Through Safe and Effective
Treatments

By Dr. Lawrence R. Deyton, M.S.P.H, M.D., Director of the Center for
Tobacco Products at the FDA.


Thank you for signing the petition "Recognize electronic cigarettes as an effective
alternative to smoking and support job creation in this new industry
."

E-cigarettes may contain ingredients that are known to be toxic to humans or
otherwise harm public health -- for example, if they are attractive to young
people and lead kids to try other tobacco products, including conventional
cigarettes, which are known to cause disease and lead to premature death.
Because clinical studies of these products have not been submitted to the Food
and Drug Administration (FDA), consumers currently have no way of knowing what
types or concentrations of potentially harmful chemicals are found in these
products, or how much nicotine people inhale when they use these products.

FDA is taking steps, as authorized by the Family Smoking Prevention and
Tobacco Control Act, to include electronic cigarettes under the agency's
regulatory authority.

However, in light of the lack of validated scientific data, including a lack
of reliable indicators of nicotine and harmful chemical content, FDA cannot at
this time conclude that electronic cigarettes are an effective alternative to
smoking.

Make no mistake, the Obama Administration shares your concern about the
public health risks associated with cigarette smoking and is committed to
helping Americans quit. Cigarette smoking poses a serious public health risk to
our Nation, accounting for about one-third of all cancers, including 90 percent of lung cancer cases. On
average, adults who smoke die 14 years earlier than
nonsmokers
. Nonsmokers exposed to secondhand smoke at home or work increase
their risk of developing heart disease by 25 to 30 percent and
lung cancer by 20 to 30 percent. A 35-year-old
man who quits smoking will, on average, increase his life expectancy by 5 years.

As someone who is clearly engaged on this issue, we also want to make sure
you know about the Great American Smokeout, the American Cancer Society's
nationwide campaign to encourage smokers to make a plan to quit. Watch a special video from President Obama and learn
more


I am so mad at him grrrrrrrr #@^hole
 
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