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Mine was marked as shipped on the 18th, actually made it into the USPS shipping system as accepted on the 22, another week it should be here. I was watching as it got listed. Ordered it pretty much as it was listed, someone has received, and reviewed one already, I'll post when I get mine.
Hate the dreaded "restocking", at least some of them have shipped so far, mine should be arriving about the same time as my Taifun GSII from Focal. Got my Nuppin, Nectar, Ataman II, HC Plus, and the SMPL 18350/500/650 pack which helps my impatience a bit.
Hate the dreaded "restocking", at least some of them have shipped so far, mine should be arriving about the same time as my Taifun GSII from Focal. Got my Nuppin, Nectar, Ataman II, HC Plus, and the SMPL 18350/500/650 pack which helps my impatience a bit.
I have a Nectar clone on the way to try. It was like a whole $9 so it might be a pile, lol!
Well, in 1-2 weeks, we should find out how good or bad they are 
. As long as its usable I'll be happy. Doesn't look like I'll ever have my hands on an authentic, which is the reason I bought this.
. As long as its usable I'll be happy. Doesn't look like I'll ever have my hands on an authentic, which is the reason I bought this.
Well, in 1-2 weeks, we should find out how good or bad they are
I should have mine within the next couple days, until then I'm enjoying my Taifun GSII clone that came this morning!
about 400 miles to go!
I should have mine within the next couple days, until then I'm enjoying my Taifun GSII clone that came this morning!
about 400 miles to go!
How is the GS 2? Which one did you get?
Well, in 1-2 weeks, we should find out how good or bad they are
I refuse to join special lists, secret groups, or F5 battles i have to set my alarm clock for. If i can't buy it by simply going to a website i'll by the clone instead. The authentic was out of price range for atty anyway.
I know you already saw my other post, but to put it here its made by Shenray, and the quality is excellent, fasttech, and Focalecig both have it, Fasttech also has another one which as pictured does not look as good, and has a non-adjustable 510. Hotcig has one listed on Alibaba, but have not seen it anywhere yet. Can't see them getting much better quality then the Shenray though. I have a feeling that a bit of the "restocking" syndrome will be seen with this one as word gets out more and more.
Well, USPS managed to take as long to get from Illinois to Minnesota, as it took to get from China to Chicago, but its here.
Arrived somewhat grubby, fingerprints all over it, appeared they assembled it without gloves, threading was full of flecks of skin Some big drops of machine oil?, smelled a bit smoky, and almost tobacco like 
that was only in the longer chimney which I won't be using until its spent some time in the UC. Other then the grubby deck threading, and the longer chimney it was fairly clean, but that didn't stop me from giving it a thorough anyway.
Machining is much better then the first clone I received from FT, Chamber is quite a bit smaller then the first one, chimney has been reduced from 3.5mm to 3mm. Can still get the airflow to whistle, but its not as bad as the first one, I think the whistling might be due to the fact that about half the airflow slot is blocked off by the insulator (see pics). Airflow should be easy enough to fix with a file, or even a sharp blade, doesn't bother me so I probably won't bother. Airflow is sufficient enough for slightly restricted lung hits, not sure if tapering the insulator at the slot will help much because of the 3mm chimney.
Adjustable 510 is all but useless in mine, the base relies on contact of one screw for positive connection, this should also hold the contact plate in place, but mine is loose enough that the whole assembly spins when attempting to adjust it. Seems like a solid enough electrical connection, but it may be an issue running in TC. Probably an easy fix with a thin shim beneath the head of the positive screw, it won't take much though.
I saw mention on the FT forums of one slot being uneven, and open 1+mm on one side, thought mine was this way as well, probably a 2mm gap one side, closed on the other, but changing the orientation of the wicking sleeve, one side to the other closed this gap to almost nothing.
Overall the build quality is good, not great, not a top notch clone, but not bad at all. Also mine arrived lacking any logos, except the box.
For a first build I chose .26 gauge 3mm coil @ 1 ohm, 3mm mostly because you need a bit of cotton. simply enough to build on, deck is wide open, and one post is drilled higher then the other. Grub screws in the posts, but don't rely on the allen wrench they provide to work those screws. Mine arrived with the Allen wrench being to big, I have plenty of tools around so not an issue for me.
Drip tip hole seems properly sized for all the tips I tried in it. Flavor is pretty decent, above average, probably can be improved with a different build, just wanted to drop something quick in it to try.
I've also seen mention that the plastic tanks failed almost immediately breaking at the threads, that will definitely be the weak spot, suggest sourcing some spares if possible. The tanks from the previous clone are slightly larger and do not fit on mine.
The stands included with it have magnets in them which the previous one did not.
Overall I like it, improved over the first one, but I could see some things that could be changed to make it better.
Easy enough to get it wicking properly, no issues and one nano tank through it so far. Not sure I trust the quality of the insulators, so I raised the coil a bit higher then I like for now.
On to the pictures.
Arrived somewhat grubby, fingerprints all over it, appeared they assembled it without gloves, threading was full of flecks of skin
Some big drops of machine oil?, smelled a bit smoky, and almost tobacco like that was only in the longer chimney which I won't be using until its spent some time in the UC. Other then the grubby deck threading, and the longer chimney it was fairly clean, but that didn't stop me from giving it a thorough anyway.Machining is much better then the first clone I received from FT, Chamber is quite a bit smaller then the first one, chimney has been reduced from 3.5mm to 3mm. Can still get the airflow to whistle, but its not as bad as the first one, I think the whistling might be due to the fact that about half the airflow slot is blocked off by the insulator (see pics). Airflow should be easy enough to fix with a file, or even a sharp blade, doesn't bother me so I probably won't bother. Airflow is sufficient enough for slightly restricted lung hits, not sure if tapering the insulator at the slot will help much because of the 3mm chimney.
Adjustable 510 is all but useless in mine, the base relies on contact of one screw for positive connection, this should also hold the contact plate in place, but mine is loose enough that the whole assembly spins when attempting to adjust it. Seems like a solid enough electrical connection, but it may be an issue running in TC. Probably an easy fix with a thin shim beneath the head of the positive screw, it won't take much though.
I saw mention on the FT forums of one slot being uneven, and open 1+mm on one side, thought mine was this way as well, probably a 2mm gap one side, closed on the other, but changing the orientation of the wicking sleeve, one side to the other closed this gap to almost nothing.
Overall the build quality is good, not great, not a top notch clone, but not bad at all. Also mine arrived lacking any logos, except the box.
For a first build I chose .26 gauge 3mm coil @ 1 ohm, 3mm mostly because you need a bit of cotton. simply enough to build on, deck is wide open, and one post is drilled higher then the other. Grub screws in the posts, but don't rely on the allen wrench they provide to work those screws. Mine arrived with the Allen wrench being to big, I have plenty of tools around so not an issue for me.
Drip tip hole seems properly sized for all the tips I tried in it. Flavor is pretty decent, above average, probably can be improved with a different build, just wanted to drop something quick in it to try.
I've also seen mention that the plastic tanks failed almost immediately breaking at the threads, that will definitely be the weak spot, suggest sourcing some spares if possible. The tanks from the previous clone are slightly larger and do not fit on mine.
The stands included with it have magnets in them which the previous one did not.
Overall I like it, improved over the first one, but I could see some things that could be changed to make it better.
Easy enough to get it wicking properly, no issues and one nano tank through it so far. Not sure I trust the quality of the insulators, so I raised the coil a bit higher then I like for now.
On to the pictures.
Looking forward to mine. Thanks for the thorough review, CC.
Mine is here, and it seems really nice. I'm looking forward to building it.
I haven't built mine yet because I was out of mods, but I don't see anything that should be cause for concern. My beta clone works fine and this one seems nicer.
I just checked FT and the few reviews up are very favorable for this v2 clone.
Are you looking at the first version? That would be my guess, 5 reviews,4.8 is fairly good so far, I haven't posted my review yet, but it will be 5. I have the first version, and it wasn't really that bad, but reviews are much lower, and many had issues with it.
Second one is much nicer, only real negative remarks I've seen so far is that some are having issues with condensation in the base, and the weak plastic tank. I'm guessing condensation issues are mostly caused by specific builds.
I've been using mine every day since I received it, tank is still in one piece, and I've had no issues with condensation Build quality is pretty decent, vapes quite nicely. I will agree with probability of tank issues, so far I haven't ordered replacement tanks yet, only place I've found them listed is Gearbest, I'd rather not purchase from them.
EDIT: Guess you might be looking at the reviews on the brushed version, just checked those, I will comment that even the OG is supposed to have the uneven wick channels. I will aslo mention that if you don't position the chimney collar correctly this gap goes from about .5 mm to nearly 2mm. the .5mm difference in the channels is not enough to make any difference in how it wicks. On the wick channel issue it really is a non-issue as long as you position the collar CORRECTLY. Also see mention of the grub screws cutting wire, I had no problems with this, but over tighten them and I'm sure it will cut wire, Billow was horrible for cutting wire.
After using this for some time now my opinion is the atomizer is above average for function, and most problems being reported are simply user error.
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A few of the negative comments for the V2:
- Can still get the airflow to whistle, but its not as bad as the first one
- Adjustable 510 is all but useless in mine, the base relies on contact of one screw for positive connection, this should also hold the contact plate in place, but mine is loose enough that the whole assembly spins when attempting to adjust it.
- I've also seen mention that the plastic tanks failed almost immediately breaking at the threads, that will definitely be the weak spot
- Not sure I trust the quality of the insulators, so I raised the coil a bit higher then I like for now.
- Still has the juice collecting inside the base problem
- Chimney collar has a large gap
- Juice build up in the drip tip well - happens pretty quick and causes gurgling.
But hey if you don't mind fiddling it may work for you! Buying clones is always a crap shoot.
- Can still get the airflow to whistle, but its not as bad as the first one
- Adjustable 510 is all but useless in mine, the base relies on contact of one screw for positive connection, this should also hold the contact plate in place, but mine is loose enough that the whole assembly spins when attempting to adjust it.
- I've also seen mention that the plastic tanks failed almost immediately breaking at the threads, that will definitely be the weak spot
- Not sure I trust the quality of the insulators, so I raised the coil a bit higher then I like for now.
- Still has the juice collecting inside the base problem
- Chimney collar has a large gap
- Juice build up in the drip tip well - happens pretty quick and causes gurgling.
But hey if you don't mind fiddling it may work for you! Buying clones is always a crap shoot.
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My comment, and it is only in a small portion of the adjustment range, and very quiet/have to suck pretty hard.
My 510 adjusts fine, but in the tightest position its just about right, protruding just enough for hybrid top caps, but not so much to cause gaps. As for a single screw for connection quite a few atomizers have the same arrangement, don't really see that as an issue, mine was a little looser then I liked, not terrible, simple fix, a thin o-ring placed around the insulator where it inserts into the 510 tightened it up completely. It was not loose enough to cause issue, this included stability issues with TC, but hey was a simple fix so why not.
Again my comment, I've seen one person say there tank failed, but also mentioned a caustic juice, the first version was same way, saw a couple mentioned it failed, both using questionable juice. I'm still using my V1 fairly regularly without that tank failing. I've probably filled the V2 nano 25+ times, with no issues, I've also dropped it 3 times, no failures thus far. I would still suggest sourcing spares, but then I'm a bit of a stickler for getting spare glass, and plastic tanks. I do stand by my comment, but after examining the tank more closely its 2.4mm thick, take .75mm off that for threads, which is a bit beefier then most.
Again my comment, I've not had any issues with the insulators, I've dry burned the coil a few times, and currently running a .5 build in it with no issues, was a statement of caution not of a problem.
These same guys had the same issue with the first one, neither V1 or V2 has produced any condensation issues such as they describe for me, makes me wonder if in reality these are wicking/flooding issues. Since my initial build I've also dropped the coil to about 1mm above the airflow with same results. Not getting the wicking right on this will definitely result in juice build up in the base, much like any tank system not built properly. Personally I find the build very simple, and easier to wick then many other atomizers. Even with heavy VG juice the wick needs to be pinched fairly tightly by the chimney collar.
I'm quite sure these are machined on some computer run CNC machine, and most/all, are machined identical to mine. I can produce a 2mm gap in one side of the wick channels, while the other side is closed completely, however, in this case it is NOT positioned correctly. When positioned correctly its not perfect, one side is completely closed, the other has about .5mm gap, the authentic is supposed to be the same. This tiny difference makes no difference in wicking.
I've not experienced this at all, juice build up under the tip is a normal occurrence, don't think I have any tank atomizer which doesn't. I have two that are problematic just as described, Expromizer, and the first version of the Heron. Possibly it could be drip tip choice which prevents mine from having the issue, I use a wide bore stumpy drip tip, the included drip tip didn't cause it on mine either, but I don't really care for the mouth feel so didn't use it very long.
I've got somewhere around 150 different atomizers, including a fair number of authentics, many of which I could easily classify as "fiddly" this is not one of them. Quite the opposite, I find this much less "fiddly" then the majority of my atomizers. However, like most any atomizer, don't build it properly and problems occur.
As for clones being a "crap shoot" as long as you do a bit of research, and stick with one of the better manufacturers the odds can be greatly increased, in general the quality of clones coming from China has dramatically increased over the last year. Of 50 or so clones I've purchased this year one has been a fail. Wish I could reproduce those odds when gambling.
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