Unofficial BWB Fanboy/Fangirl Thread

[Wharf Rat]

Hey RW has your ∞ shipped yet?

 

[Riverwolf]

Yep shipped thursday.!!!!! Phidias ships tomorrow..Yippee

 

[Wharf Rat]

Looks like it' gunna be a GOOOOOOD week RW

 

[Riverwolf]

And 2 unopened bottles of BWB just waitin'

 

[Brutus Buckeye]

River after last week, you deserve something nice, God bless you!

 

[Riverwolf]

Thanks Brutus!

 

[phorbin]

good evening Crew. how is everyone? busy day in here, wow. lotta catching up to do. i like it

 

[whiskey]

Evening Phorbin...yes a busy day here too LOL

 

[phorbin]

Evening Phorbin...yes a busy day here too LOL

you're always busy. just changing avi's all the time keeps you busier than most. LOL

 

[Brutus Buckeye]

Hey phorbin, hope your doing good buddy!

 

[upstatEpuff]

Hey guys and PapaB I think I've read somewhere that a pt is not 5v if hooked to a laptop or something like that not sure.

I just hooked my voltmeter up to my modern vapor 902 PT and its reading 4.8V,
you got me wondering when you said that river so I checked it out. That might be why I don't ever use it anymore, muy caliente

 

[daniel5383]

i am in love with bwb...i have tried so many different vendors and though good, they just dont compare to the flavors i have tried from don....why doesnt bwb have its own forum here on ecf???

 

[jplanet]

i am in love with bwb...i have tried so many different vendors and though good, they just dont compare to the flavors i have tried from don....why doesnt bwb have its own forum here on ecf???

Welcome to the club! Indeed, Don now has many, many fans here who appreciate his creations.

While there is not an official forum, there is a Social Group:

The BWB Crew

 

[AlmightyGod]

i am in love with bwb...i have tried so many different vendors and though good, they just dont compare to the flavors i have tried from don....why doesnt bwb have its own forum here on ecf???

Don hasn't paid for a forum.

 

[wevie]

No equipment (yet) but product is 10, 15, 30ml plastic bottles, there needs to be process to mix pharma-grade PG, VG, nicotine at very precise quantities as a base, then to flavor mixing, batching, and labeling. The PG/VG/nic has to be very precise - this is what the FDA will ultimately demand. Maybe, the PG/VG is batched as a base, then the nic/flavor/labeling process begins? The process needs to result in High Quality, consistent product verifiable using typical batch controls, labeling, and quality assurance.

With that said, if we could get just ONE US manufacturer to produce pharma-grade product, I have an 'in' with Kaiser Permanente - and this could be huge. Kaiser is currently looking at e-cigarettes in their smoking cessation team and their biggest concern is the quality of e-juice that absolutely needs to be pharma-grade, quality assured product.

I can "see" the process in my head. I'd recommend one product "line" in which a single nic level is mixed in a large quantity. Then it would be dispensed into the bottles. After that you would then add the flavoring.
For precision liquid you would probably want to utilize a gas pressure dispenser (think large powered syringe). Then your mixing tank would need to be on precision load cells accurate enough to verify proper ingredient amounts.

Once the unflavored nic bottles are filled they would move to the next station where flavoring could be added in something similar to a paint mixing machine where precise amounts of flavoring can be added in different combinations.

Finally, the completed bottle would pass another weigh station to verify final weight is within spec for that specific product. Capping and labelling is simple.

Every X bottles, you will want to sacrifice one to the lab for quality testing to verify the batch.
This is definitely NOT an cheap endeavor!!

 

[daniel5383]

Welcome to the club! Indeed, Don now has many, many fans here who appreciate his creations.

While there is not an official forum, there is a Social Group:

The BWB Crew

thanks!

i didnt know vendors had to pay for a forum....thats kinda stupid but whatever

 

[AlmightyGod]

Keep in mind that some mixes use 10% flavoring & others use 20% & etc & etc...

The whole process could be fairly complicated...and possibly cost prohibitive.

The largest e liquid suppliers in the USA still do it by hand in batches, due to all of the variables & cost of automation.

 

[upstatEpuff]

thanks!

i didnt know vendors had to pay for a forum....thats kinda stupid but whatever

ECF has overhead, money has to come from somewhere.

 

[bornagainst]

There is also a waiting list of vendors to become approved suppliers (aka having a real subforum), so it could happen still. I dont see it happening personally, since Don seems to have gotten as big as he wants to right now.

 

[wevie]

Keep in mind that some mixes use 10% flavoring & others use 20% & etc & etc...

The whole process could be fairly complicated...and possibly cost prohibitive.

The largest e liquid suppliers in the USA still do it by hand in batches, due to all of the variables & cost of automation.

Different flavoring amounts is not a problem with a properly programmed batching system. Each flavor/nic level will have pre-programmed recipe in which the weights are known by the system and measured accordingly. I work with similar equipment daily, although the products we produce are in the Liter range instead of 10 mL. Just scale it down.