Vape Forward Stout thread

[k2zs]

The "Stout" is on my current next mod list for its size and 26650.

Is everyone happy with their purchase? I watched on uTube video that claimed that the TC was dismal. Does the TC work at least as well as other Joytech/Wismec products?

For me, the TC has worked great. I get the same vape with my Kanger Sub tank Mini / NI200 coil as I do on my VT200 DNA 200 mod. I also use a Magma with a single .12 ohm NI200 coil and it's been perfect. I don't do a lot of TC vaping and I don't do it like most people do (running max wattage), I set my wattage to just above (maybe 5 - 10 watts above) where TC kicks in with all my atty's and TC mods.

 

[deucesjack]

The "Stout" is on my current next mod list for its size and 26650.

Is everyone happy with their purchase? I watched on uTube video that claimed that the TC was dismal. Does the TC work at least as well as other Joytech/Wismec products?

I vape in tc exclusively and the chip is fine. I run SS and Ni200 with no issues whatsoever.

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[KY_Rob]

The "Stout" is on my current next mod list for its size and 26650.

Is everyone happy with their purchase? I watched on uTube video that claimed that the TC was dismal. Does the TC work at least as well as other Joytech/Wismec products?

I've been using my Stout in TC mode with SS for about 6 weeks now, and it's been flawless. Very happy with the device overall.

 

[Croak]

TC works great..I'd rank Evolv DNA200 as #1, Yihi SX-350J as #2, and Joyetech/Wismec board a very close #3, and a DNA40 as #4, just to put it in perspective.

I think Yihi is more accurate than Joyetech, but Joyetech has a smoother, more Evolv-like vape, and a better UI than either Evolv or Yihi, making it easier to adjust power and temp on the fly.

 

[ariffza]

TC works great..I'd rank Evolv DNA200 as #1, Yihi SX-350J as #2, and Joyetech/Wismec board a very close #3, and a DNA40 as #4, just to put it in perspective.

I think Yihi is more accurate than Joyetech, but Joyetech has a smoother, more Evolv-like vape, and a better UI than either Evolv or Yihi, making it easier to adjust power and temp on the fly.

I have the VTC Mini before I upgraded to the VS VF DNA40 and I can confidently say that the DNA40 provides a smoother vape for me. If you've ranked the VF JT chip as being better than DNA40s, then the JF chips used on VF's mod fires totally different from JF's own mods. Now I'm really intrigued to try out a stout if it truly beats DNA40 chips. Anyone with a VTC Mini or Cuboid and a VF mod chime in?

p.s. Oh and by the way, I'm comparing both mods in regular power mode. I've given up on TC completely as vaping Kayfun on power mode is way too satisfying for me.

 

[Croak]

I rank the JT higher than the DNA40 due to better/more advanced features, but it's close in smoothness too, even when using Ni200 (for that shrinking group of people that still use Ni200). That wasn't quite the case last summer when the JT board was first released, but the firmware upgrades have greatly improved it.

And I haven't built a non-TC coil since about this time last year (not counting using some pre-builts that came with various tanks). And I've never been a fan of how a Kayfun vapes, just not my thing.

 

[KY_Rob]

I've given up on TC completely as vaping Kayfun on power mode is way too satisfying for me.

I was right there with you, for the longest time. My ADV device is a Kayfun 4 in long mode. I have found that I can run a TC build in it using SS on the Stout, and it performs perfectly. So no more singed wicks. Builds last right around 50% longer. Ive been converted.

 

[Nikea Tiber]

I have a VTC mini and an original lipo VT 60, and a stout. I've spent a week with the yihi sx330j, and a few days with my friends snow wolf 200.
Tuned correctly with a well-built, electrically stable atty they all greatly reduce the chances of burning a wick. I use 316l SS or grade 0 ti for TC, though lately I have abandoned ti in favor of SS. I run low-mass dual coils.
I have found that most TC mods that feel like they cutoff or pulse hard when they hit your temp threshold can be smoothed out if you simply reduce the max wattage setting.
The VF Stout is a nice device, my biggest complaints about it are:
The wattage rating is beyond optimistic for the 26650s that are on the market now. I suppose this is more of a battery complaint, as all the reports on the performance of the (now discontinued) Sony 26650vtc were positive.
The stout runs much, much better with a high discharge 18650 like the VTC4 in the included battery adapter.
The battery door on my stout has loosened in the front, which will cause the door to randomly pop open in my pocket. Mechanically, this is the only gripe I have with the mod, and it is likely related to its incompatibility with some 26650s on the market. I know these batteries are out of length spec, but the stout could have been engineered to accept these larger cells without issue.

The takeaway is that while you can set your stout to try and fire at 100 Watts it will most likely refuse. This is fine for me, since the build I use on it takes about 30-35 Watts. I really like the form factor, but in terms of doing everything it is supposed to, the VF lite is probably a better device, largely because there are a large number of easily available batteries that are actually suited for it.

I guess that I just feel like the guys at VF just looked at a spec sheet for the 26650 without actually taking a sample of what is available on the market right now. I may revise my opinion on using a 26650 if I could track down some Panasonic 26650s. As for now, even the orange MNKE 3500 mah cells I have seem to force a weak battery display at under their current rating.

 

[ariffza]

The battery cover on these flasks are quite nice but I personally prefer the battery cap design used on the DNA40 flasks.

 

[deucesjack]

The battery cover on these flasks are quite nice but I personally prefer the battery cap design used on the DNA40 flasks.

Not me, I'll take the cover over the caps anytime.

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[danielpm]

To the stout/lite/classic owners, is supposed that this line of vaporflask's to perform equal to the joyetech line, like the VTC Mini or the cuboid? Or better/worse?

 

[Croak]

Performs identical to the Joyetech line. All the same features.

 

[danielpm]

Performs identical to the Joyetech line. All the same features.

And the quality of the mod itself? It's durable? I like (a lot) of this vaporflask line, but I also want a mod that would last some time

 

[Pocha]

I have the silver stout that I have been using as my daily driver and it has been VERY durable. No chips or scratches. The build quality seems excellent. It's a heavy mod, though, because it's made out of a zinc alloy.

 

[Eugene lim]

I using the lite as my daily driver

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[danielpm]

I using the lite as my daily driver

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Beautiful setup! The lite is gorgeous!

 

[Nikea Tiber]

Update on my stout. I bought the stout in black a week and a half ago or so. I went in to my local B&M to get some juice and brought the stout along with me, thinking about getting lite in stainless if they have one (the light has a much better battery door as well as selection of available 18650s). Got chatting with the clerk, told him about the battery door being loose on my stout, so he opens up a package of stouts they just received, and swaps out my black stout for a stainless one (the finish I originally wanted) on the spot. If you live in Phoenix, the staff at Vapor Vortex is a massive asset to the vaping community, drop by you will be glad you did.
Anyhow, here is the stainless stout topped with a veritas RDA and RJMod Cats drip tip.

I'm running a 316l SS vertical single coil @ .48 ohms. I've been experimenting with SS mesh wicks, and I have to say that I might like it better than rayon for atomizers I can use it in. Zero additional flavor, and rolled correctly the entire wick acts as a heat sink to evaporate juice from. This setup rocks.

 

[acee]

I'm a little confused. I understand that mooch recommended 26650 batteries for the stout, but are the ones he recommended able to handle a high wattage at 60+ watts without getting any battery sag and the "weak battery" screen? Btw i vape a .70 build and would like to vape it at 60-65 watts without hitting the weak battery screen.

 

[frjaldomr]

I tried MNKE 26650, purple efest 18650 and 25R 18560...all 20A.
I couldn't get over 50 watts for very long without getting the weak battery screen.
In my opinion this is a tootle puffer mod. I sold mine on ebay.

 

[acee]

I tried MNKE 26650, purple efest 18650 and 25R 18560...all 20A.
I couldn't get over 50 watts for very long without getting the weak battery screen.
In my opinion this is a tootle puffer mod. I sold mine on ebay.

Well thats very disappointing. I was super excited to grab this mod too. Thanks for the reply